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No, your point does not still stand. You wrote all that based on false assumptions. You can't attribute something to me that I never claimed.

Now you're moving the goalpost. I'm not indirectly voting for anyone. I'm voting for i feel is the best candidate. I've heard this tired argument that a vote for a 3rd party candidate is 1 less vote for the democratic candidate. If Kamala loses then her team needs to revaluate why those voters didn't support her. But if she wins, then you'll get your chance to brag tomorrow.
Can you provide 1 logical argument that supports voting for Jill Stein or any third party candidate in general? Jill Stein or any other third pardy candidate has a 0% of winning even a single state. The only thing a third party can accomplish is act as a spoiler campaign for one of the actual candidates. Any third party candidate is a grifter or completely out of their mind. They know they have absolutely zero chance of winning anything, so ask yourself why they're running and collecting donations?

If you bother to vote at all, it would be logical to assume you're voting in hopes of accomplishing a victory for said candidate, yes? But there is no reality in any multiverse where third party candidates in the US stand even the slightest chance of winning even a single state. So then what is the goal if winning isn't an option on the board?
 
All I am saying not only would I not say this it I don’t believe you fell that way even though you say it.

….I do have friends and family that are voting for Trump and I do care about and respect them outside of that vote and regardless of how little I think of Trump I could not say with any amount of certainty that them voting for Trump paints them as morally bankrupt spiritually or mentally but hey, that’s me.

I do not believe everyone in your life is 1. Not voting for Trump or 2. Getting painted with a bankrupt brush and you actually meaning it.
I have family that are voting for Trump again and you and many other NTers are more family to me than them. Sometimes guys like Trump have to show you just how morally bankrupt many of our family members are.
 
All I am saying not only would I not say this it I don’t believe you fell that way even though you say it.

….I do have friends and family that are voting for Trump and I do care about and respect them outside of that vote and regardless of how little I think of Trump I could not say with any amount of certainty that them voting for Trump paints them as morally bankrupt spiritually or mentally but hey, that’s me.

I do not believe everyone in your life is 1. Not voting for Trump or 2. Getting painted with a bankrupt brush and you actually meaning it.
You'd rather have friends than principles, as if having friends with principles isn't possible.
 
No, your point does not still stand. You wrote all that based on false assumptions. You can't attribute something to me that I never claimed.

Now you're moving the goalpost. I'm not indirectly voting for anyone. I'm voting for i feel is the best candidate. I've heard this tired argument that a vote for a 3rd party candidate is 1 less vote for the democratic candidate. If Kamala loses then her team needs to revaluate why those voters didn't support her. But if she wins, then you'll get your chance to brag tomorrow.

No, my point absolutely still stands.

Why do you hold a random NT member to a higher standard than your ex president? You’re more offended by my words than January 6th.
 
No, my point absolutely still stands.

Why do you hold a random NT member to a higher standard than your ex president? You’re more offended by my words than January 6th.
When i hear those on the left make provocative statements like the one referenced, then I have to ask myself what's the difference between Trump supporters and Kamala supporters? The line is blurred at that point. The left used to pride themselves on not descending to the gutter level.

"When they go low, we go high"

Michelle Obama

In this current political climate it's hard to tell the sides apart.
 
To be honest, being on NT for as long as I have has forced me to mature and view the world through a different perspective. I grew up in a Black Evangelical Christian family that always voted with the Dems. I was socially conservative and was against Abortion, Gay Marriage and other things. I even watched Fox News. When I got older and started to attend a White Evangelical church it always made me uncomfortable that many of the people that were so outspoken against Women having Body Autonomy were likely the ones turning on the hose against my grandparents in the south. I grew and my faith is stronger than ever but anything White Evangelicals support, I can’t.
 
Can you provide 1 logical argument that supports voting for Jill Stein or any third party candidate in general? Jill Stein or any other third pardy candidate has a 0% of winning even a single state. The only thing a third party can accomplish is act as a spoiler campaign for one of the actual candidates. Any third party candidate is a grifter or completely out of their mind. They know they have absolutely zero chance of winning anything, so ask yourself why they're running and collecting donations?

If you bother to vote at all, it would be logical to assume you're voting in hopes of accomplishing a victory for said candidate, yes? But there is no reality in any multiverse where third party candidates in the US stand even the slightest chance of winning even a single state. So then what is the goal if winning isn't an option on the board?

He's previously admitted that a Stein vote is a wasted vote and that he doesn't support Dems because he's a homophobe/transphobe

Imagine his surprise when he finds out Stein's platform is just as, if not more favorable to LGBTQ people that Harris'

He's just blowing smoke and I seriously doubt he even votes
 
He's previously admitted that a Stein vote is a wasted vote and that he doesn't support Dems because he's a homophobe/transphobe

Imagine his surprise when he finds out Stein's platform is just as, if not more favorable to LGBTQ people that Harris'

He's just blowing smoke and I seriously doubt he even votes
You're entitled to believe that 🤷🏾
 
You're entitled to believe that 🤷🏾
Feel free to clarify

Can you provide 1 logical argument that supports voting for Jill Stein or any third party candidate in general? Jill Stein or any other third pardy candidate has a 0% of winning even a single state. The only thing a third party can accomplish is act as a spoiler campaign for one of the actual candidates. Any third party candidate is a grifter or completely out of their mind. They know they have absolutely zero chance of winning anything, so ask yourself why they're running and collecting donations?

If you bother to vote at all, it would be logical to assume you're voting in hopes of accomplishing a victory for said candidate, yes? But there is no reality in any multiverse where third party candidates in the US stand even the slightest chance of winning even a single state. So then what is the goal if winning isn't an option on the board?
 
You'd rather have friends than principles, as if having friends with principles isn't possible.
I’m not sure what you’re saying here.


My point is ALL of my friends or family voting Trump are most certainly not ALL morally bankrupt. Some, yes possibly but it’s not definitive that EVERY ONE of those people are morally bankrupt just because they vote Trump….they might be a lot of other adjectives or simply standing on the wrong side of business or whatever, but definitively morally bankrupt?….that’s just not true. I don’t think that’s true for anyone that would make such a statement. Period.
 
Being willfully ignorant is a gift I pray I can obtain

I can't tell the sides apart lmao
Looks like the economic anxiety circa 2016 all over again. Folks were SOOOOOOOOOOOO hurt by da factory closing on 1973 that they had NO CHOICE but to drop N bombs and commit hate crimes against people that had nothing to do with the factory l closing.
 
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