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**** I can't believe we lost the house, senate, presidency, the popular vote...and they have the courts. And the best case scenario is that he doesn't go full dictator mode and we only get 4 years of this ********.
and we already see ppl bending the knee in real time day 0.
Jesus christ.
and we already see ppl bending the knee in real time day 0.
Jesus christ.
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You can cry about it all you want, but the dude nailed it. The whole sports debate is just the way to further eliminate trans rights.
You got trump, at rallies, telling the audience that your boy can go to school one day and come home a girl. Why does he do that? So when they propose banning trans care to children, everyone falls in line.
At that point, whether a kid wants to play sports or not, whether the parents consent to transition or not, it's all completely banned.
And we know it's all BS, because they are actively making health care for biological women worse. So we already know, that transphobia is at the heart of the issue. It's got little to do with looking out for women. Women are dying over these abortion laws that have been passed.
And you go along with that, we all know it. Just say it.
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That's the thing.
The first books and buildings Nazis destroyed were dedicated to the study of transgenderism. That was almost 90 years ago.
The Forgotten History of the World's First Trans Clinic
The Institute for Sexual Research in Berlin would be a century old if it hadn’t fallen victim to Nazi ideology
There is evidence of much older cultures observing and attempting to understand gender fluidity.
The very idea that transgenderism is a recent phenomenon that will pass over simply doesn't line up with the history of human civilizations. We'd benefit from using the tools we've developed to study and understand this phenomenon instead of trying to bury it under pretenses of making regular people comfortable and following common sense.
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That's the thing.
The first books and buildings Nazis destroyed were dedicated to the study of transgenderism. That was almost 90 years ago.
The Forgotten History of the World's First Trans Clinic
The Institute for Sexual Research in Berlin would be a century old if it hadn’t fallen victim to Nazi ideologywww.scientificamerican.com
There is evidence of much older cultures observing and attempting to understand gender fluidity.
The very idea that transgenderism is a recent phenomenon that will pass over simply doesn't line up with the history of human civilizations. We'd benefit from using the tools we've developed to study and understand this phenomenon instead of trying to bury it under pretenses of making regular people comfortable and following common sense.
I was talking about boys playing sports with girls and people pretending it's cool. That's what I was referring to when I said, "This time will pass over." (Which the clip was about)
NOT transgenderism as a whole.
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So the white supremacist who instituted the “Muslim ban” is gonna help Palestine?? The man who Netanyahu was openly supporting being the next president?
The lack of critical thinking from some allegedly educated people is mind blowing.
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I'm
This is one of the quote replies.
"This was a necessary significant win for Palestine and Palestine supporters, and a very powerful step forward toward justice for Palestine and Lebanon"
It doesn't make sense to me. How was voting in Trump a step towards liberation and justice?
Also, if you look at most of the exit polling it shows that 98% of Americans didn't care about Gaza, they were voting on American issues like inflation and immigration.
This is one of the quote replies.
"This was a necessary significant win for Palestine and Palestine supporters, and a very powerful step forward toward justice for Palestine and Lebanon"
It doesn't make sense to me. How was voting in Trump a step towards liberation and justice?
Also, if you look at most of the exit polling it shows that 98% of Americans didn't care about Gaza, they were voting on American issues like inflation and immigration.
They are just showing their true colors now that the election is over. They want Trump to inflict pain on the Democrats, minorities, etc. They only are out for themselves.
Then they wonder why people aren't as sympathetic to their cause and mission.
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You mean like mixed doubles in tennis?
You know he was using boy to mean trans girl. That's why he got called out.
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While I can understand the intrigue of conversations like this because it gives people an avenue to air grievances (and it’s good for tv ratings), If men, the drivers of the work force, heads of households, entrepreneurs, movers of the economy can’t be pitched on an economic platform with plans to bolster homeownership, worker empowerment, tax benefits and an over all better economic environment and foothold for us and our families, there was no messaging that was going to work. If the response to not “feeling” “talked to” is to let Trump win, what could the Harris campaign possibly have done?
This unserious, BARELY critical media environment has contributed so much to why this election played out the way it did. They only care about televising heated exchanges. Thats why people fein ignorance about policy
At some point the conversation needs to shift to why expanding the child tax credit wasn’t good messaging? Why wasn’t tax policy focused middle/working class good messaging? Why was lowering the barrier to start a small business not good messaging? Why wasn’t keeping the cost of necessities not good messaging? For men, and particular for black men? But concepts of a plan is the move? This isn’t a messaging issue. Maybe folks issue is with the messenger, but people done want to be attacked for what they believe right?
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The only good thing is that Trump is almost 80 years old and overweight so there is only so much damage that he personally can do. They did not even release a medical report for him.
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people don't care about any of this trans stuff
they care about the speech codes that make democrats seem like freaks obsessed with fringe minority groups.
That take was relevant in the 2020 election and maybe the one before it. He must have rehearsed that take and decided he was going to say it no matter what.
It's false, and one reason why I stopped watching CNN.
Kamala has an agenda specifically for Black men on her site.
VP Harris’ Agenda For Black Men – A Continued Focus On Small Business
Vice President Harris’ campaign released a list of policy proposals aimed at removing barriers that Black men have historically faced in building wealth.
www.forbes.com
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Also the simple fact of the matter is that nearly 80% of Black men voted for Harris. If that number had been 100%, she still would’ve lost Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, and Wisconsin.While I can understand the intrigue of conversations like this because it gives people an avenue to air grievances (and it’s good for tv ratings), If men, the drivers of the work force, heads of households, entrepreneurs, movers of the economy can’t be pitched on an economic platform with plans to bolster homeownership, worker empowerment, tax benefits and an over all better economic environment and foothold for us and our families, there was no messaging that was going to work. If the response to not “feeling” “talked to” is to let Trump win, what could the Harris campaign possibly have done?
This unserious, BARELY critical media environment has contributed so much to why this election played out the way it did. They only care about televising heated exchanges. Thats why people fein ignorance about policy
At some point the conversation needs to shift to why expanding the child tax credit wasn’t good messaging? Why wasn’t tax policy focused middle/working class good messaging? Why was lowering the barrier to start a small business not good messaging? Why wasn’t keeping the cost of necessities not good messaging? For men, and particular for black men? But concepts of a plan is the move? This isn’t a messaging issue. Maybe folks issue is with the messenger, but people done want to be attacked for what they believe right?
If 90% of Black men had voted for Harris, Scam Jones would still be up there yelling about how Dems didn’t try hard enough to reach the other 10%
Folk just up there talking to fill the news cycle.
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Yea, Van is a clown but the Black male agenda was always weak for Kamala from my perspective. Small business grants and crypto. Getting back to a populist message for the working class is the important takeaway here.That take was relevant in the 2020 election and maybe the one before it. He must have rehearsed that take and decided he was going to say it no matter what.
It's false, and one reason why I stopped watching CNN.
Kamala has an agenda specifically for Black men on her site.
VP Harris’ Agenda For Black Men – A Continued Focus On Small Business
Vice President Harris’ campaign released a list of policy proposals aimed at removing barriers that Black men have historically faced in building wealth.
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The worst part about the whole situation is that Vance is just as bad, if not worse. He embodies all of the same terrible policies but wraps it up in an eloquent package and he's actually a smart dude.
Personally, I don't think Trump physically survives his entire term and we will have a 40-year-old Vance as our president in a couple of years (and then he can run for reelection twice after that)
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Also the simple fact of the matter is that nearly 80% of Black men voted for Harris. If that number had been 100%, she still would’ve lost Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, and Wisconsin.
If 90% of Black men had voted for Harris, Scam Jones would still be up there yelling about how Dems didn’t try hard enough to reach the other 10%
Couldn’t agree more. I’m cutting out all meaningless punditry like this moving forward and I hope others do too. All it’s designed to do is get you in your feelings and turn of the part of your brain that thinks critically and applies common sense. I encourage everyone to do the same.
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Delusional *** ppl! They doomed Palatinians even more!
They won nothing and will never learn!
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This guy in particular was an HRC dead-ender for years and worked on Hillary's 2016 national campaign and is Lebanese-American. He's very much aware of the stakes but has increasingly became disillusioned with the party after Trump won and has become a vocal critic.
Think it's more beneficial in the long run finding ways to bring the folks who either stayed home or went 3rd party, back into the tent, rather than laying most of the blame on them while expecting to regain that support in 4 years.
Folks like that are still very much reachable unlike everyone who heard everything that was planned and still voted for 45 regardless. Think that level of contempt should be reserved for those folks in particular rather than traditional Dems who feel alienated by the party for different reasons.
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It would appear that is indeed their most important goal...
osh kosh bosh
has been saying it foreverCutting off the nose to spite the face
That's Cornel West's former campaign manager btw
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Russian state TV airs Melania Trump's nudes on prime time
Melania Trump's nude photos were shown during a Russian TV broadcast after Donald Trump won the 2024 presidential election.
www.newsweek.com
Beans
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This.. is exactly why I hate van and have such a distaste of our media right now … he should really stop trying to speak for black men or men in generalWhile I can understand the intrigue of conversations like this because it gives people an avenue to air grievances (and it’s good for tv ratings), If men, the drivers of the work force, heads of households, entrepreneurs, movers of the economy can’t be pitched on an economic platform with plans to bolster homeownership, worker empowerment, tax benefits and an over all better economic environment and foothold for us and our families, there was no messaging that was going to work. If the response to not “feeling” “talked to” is to let Trump win, what could the Harris campaign possibly have done?
This unserious, BARELY critical media environment has contributed so much to why this election played out the way it did. They only care about televising heated exchanges. Thats why people fein ignorance about policy
At some point the conversation needs to shift to why expanding the child tax credit wasn’t good messaging? Why wasn’t tax policy focused middle/working class good messaging? Why was lowering the barrier to start a small business not good messaging? Why wasn’t keeping the cost of necessities not good messaging? For men, and particular for black men? But concepts of a plan is the move? This isn’t a messaging issue. Maybe folks issue is with the messenger, but people done want to be attacked for what they believe right?
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