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Yeah that's what it boils down to, voter turnout. If people would have actually turned out to vote this whole thing would have ended differently.My problem is that it ain't old white people this thing is gonna last generations unless we address it and I mean actually address it and even then we will still have to deal with it. I do feel that Hilary was a weak candidate but I will be honest in saying she was better than Bernie imho. Her policies were more feasible in the political climate currently and I feel as though she would be able to work better with republicans in getting things done instead of Sanders. I also feel that his policies were quite vague and even though I supported him (I voted for him in the primaries over Clinton) I always had a feeling that he wouldn't be able to get a lot of the stuff he wanted passed. And if he couldn't get things he wanted done then we will be where we are now with the GOP ready to seize the presidency by continuing obstructionism.
But I think an even bigger problem is voter turnout. If more people had voted without a doubt Hilary would've won. Democrats really dropped the ball this time feeling as though they need "inspiration" when Trump running should be more than enough to get them out there to defend the last 8 years of progress this country made. Instead all people seem to care about is pushing that "voting don't matter" BS when we see what happens when the people who actually VOTED end up getting what they want. The irony in this entire situation is just hilariously funny yet sad at the same time
I'm serious though. we need to make sure he's not an orangutan.
trump could become the greatest president ever (for the sake of argument). i will never forgive or forget his birth certificate crusade.
Yeah that's what it boils down to, voter turnout. If people would have actually turned out to vote this whole thing would have ended differently.My problem is that it ain't old white people this thing is gonna last generations unless we address it and I mean actually address it and even then we will still have to deal with it. I do feel that Hilary was a weak candidate but I will be honest in saying she was better than Bernie imho. Her policies were more feasible in the political climate currently and I feel as though she would be able to work better with republicans in getting things done instead of Sanders. I also feel that his policies were quite vague and even though I supported him (I voted for him in the primaries over Clinton) I always had a feeling that he wouldn't be able to get a lot of the stuff he wanted passed. And if he couldn't get things he wanted done then we will be where we are now with the GOP ready to seize the presidency by continuing obstructionism.
But I think an even bigger problem is voter turnout. If more people had voted without a doubt Hilary would've won. Democrats really dropped the ball this time feeling as though they need "inspiration" when Trump running should be more than enough to get them out there to defend the last 8 years of progress this country made. Instead all people seem to care about is pushing that "voting don't matter" BS when we see what happens when the people who actually VOTED end up getting what they want. The irony in this entire situation is just hilariously funny yet sad at the same time
I hope people remember this going forward.
I just couldn't get behind Hillary (I also voted for Bernie in the primaries.) She was wayyyyyyy too corrupt and too much of the same ole same ole good ole boy network. I don't like Trump one bit but I can understand why some people voted for him, because they are sick of politicians running Washington while being paid off by lobbyist. (I'm not saying he will be any different, I'm just saying I can see why some voted for him)
Trump and Hillary are both terrible people and I wish we could have had a none of the above option and just postponed the whole election for another year while we found worthy candidates. Trump is easy to hate on by what he blatantly said, Hillary is easy to hate on but you have to actually do your research and see how vile she is / was.
Best case scenario is that this 4 years goes by without him ******* too much up and we can get a much better leader in 2020.
Are you white? If you are, why do white people always want to quote Rodney King when you are in power? White people did not quote Rodney when Obama tried to elect the Supreme Court judge, why?Haha point made. Man I'll tell you this, we need to heal. We need to be honest with ourselves and each other. While a lot of the comments on here have made me think wtf, I realize we all have our valid points. I'm not trying to start **** with this, but Rodney King said it, "can't we all just get along?" It seems the answer is wrought throughout our history. What's it gonna take? At this point I'm hoping aliens come down to conquer us, cause I don't see us coming together short of some crazy disaster to bring us to our senses. Black, white, Hispanic, Asian, etc, were all Americans/ human beings and if shtf and some outside force came in guns blazing I'd be right next to you all fighting for OUR lives. I wish you all the best, I really do. Race/politics/religion has been used to divide us, and we need to focus our attention on the ones who really deserve it. Hate and anger is born out of fear and they've been scaring the **** out of us all for a long time. Good luck to you all.
There is plenty of evidence I really just do not want to go dig it all up, I don't care if you don't believe me that's fine.You make claims without providing evidence.
This false equivalency is dripping in racial ignorance.
Donald Trump got sued twice for violating Fair Housing Act, a piece of civil rights legislation, for discriminating against black people. This was widely known but ignored by his voters.
He is not as bad as Hillary, he is worst, partly because he is a racist. And many of his followers like that.
Let us be #1HUNNA about what went on. This Bernie talk seems like it is also implicitly letting a large portion of people, especially white people, off the hook for cosigning a white supremacy platform.
There is plenty of evidence I really just do not want to go dig it all up, I don't care if you don't believe me that's fine.You make claims without providing evidence.
This false equivalency is dripping in racial ignorance.
Donald Trump got sued twice for violating Fair Housing Act, a piece of civil rights legislation, for discriminating against black people. This was widely known but ignored by his voters.
He is not as bad as Hillary, he is worst, partly because he is a racist. And many of his followers like that.
Let us be #1HUNNA about what went on. This Bernie talk seems like it is also implicitly letting a large portion of people, especially white people, off the hook for cosigning a white supremacy platform.
I am not defending Trump, I did not vote for him, I do not agree with him. All I am saying is I can SEE why people would vote for him over Hillary. I can also see why people would obviously vote for Hillary over Trump.
I didn't say Trump was a better choice than Hillary.
If you can't see the faults in both of them I don't know what to tell you.
See you guys in 4 years if we're still around.
wooooooo anti-intellectualism about infect our country the next 4 years
Ova so when it's about white ppl, racism exists.Well until white people admit that being white is the problem, the issue will continue to exist until it has been forced to cease. This is the way things go until the oppresed get tired of being oppressed. Donald Trump really does not understand what he has unearthed.Well ****, that's not gonna happen.
Anything else?
This is loony.
this is straight up racism
Wasn't aware.Donald's presidency won't effect NYC to that great of a degree compared to the rest of the country.
Who's talking about NYC?? Schumer became the most important democrat in the land last night. He is now the senate minority leader.
wooooooo anti-intellectualism about infect our country the next 4 years
what's next? anti vaxxers running the health department?
wooooooo anti-intellectualism about infect our country the next 4 years
what's next? anti vaxxers running the health department?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...imate-sensitivity-seven-degrees-a7407881.html
We are so ******. And we won't know it until this bigot is dead.
I mean he is 70 and has probably partied pretty hard.
Obama
"This job is a relay run, you take the baton and hopefully when you pass it on, you've made progress"
Whatever progress you made just got killed. I can't even be mad at his speech, really nothing he can say. His whole thing for 8 years was hope and change and continuing that and in the long run he ain't change nothing. Part of Trump winning was the anger of having a black man in the seat and WS wanting "their country back" (even though they never lost it).
Just wish Obama stood up stronger for his people cuz his legacy is nothing. All the change and hope talk meant nothing.