***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[titanium tea]

He got caught up in some faulty logic and is trying to rationalize it.

People read their own words again.....it happens a lot in here

 

[MVP]

People read their own words again.....it happens a lot in here

It happens but most don't double down on it with a analogy that makes no sense and further muddles whatever point they were trying to make...well except ninja he does that almost exclusively.

 

[Belgium]

 
No, I just wont applaud an average if not poor leader, for playing more golf and fighting more days at war than any president ever.

Obama hasn't taken anywhere near as much vacation as presidents like Bush and Reagan.

Several other presidents also rank ahead of him in rounds of gold played.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Ah. So it's only true and only a good thing when it fits your narrative then? Cute.

No, I just wont applaud an average if not poor leader, for playing more golf and fighting more days at war than any president ever.

You have no idea what your even damb well talking about.

 

[leavemeglazzies]

Basically

@ 2:35.....





But they'll just ignore the source....because Trump supporters don't believe in facts from the "mainstream media". Only the media sources trump approves of.

That's some real dictator ****

 

[rillo561]

"Real world"

 

[gry60]

I brought up the apprentice thing because unlike Obama who read security briefings everyday and who didn't get paid to play golf, Trump is engaging in financial and personal endeavors that will take his focus away from the presidency. It's no coincindence that presidents' hairs grey out when they're finished with their term(s). It is stressful and it requires their full attention.

Anyone who isn't worried about Trump's behavior doesn't remember that 9/11 could have been avoided if Bush hadn't dismissed the goddamn intelligence reports.

 

[everysingletime]

Oh, this might be what Trump might've meant by draining the swamp?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/politics/donald-trump-transition.html?_r=0

Transition questionnaire alarms Energy Department employees.

President-elect Trump’s transition team has circulated an unusual 74-point questionnaire that requests the names of all employees and contractors who have attended domestic or international climate change policy conferences, as well as emails associated with the conferences.

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The questionnaire appears targeted at climate science research and clean energy programs.


Document: Transition Questionnaire Raises Concerns
Energy Department employees, who shared the questionnaire with The New York Times and spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, described the questionnaire as unprecedented and worrying.

“These questions don’t just indicate an attack on civil servants here in Washington,” said an Energy Department employee. “They amount to a witch hunt in D.O.E.’s 17 national labs, where scientists have the independence to do their work — yet here are questions that are reminiscent of an inquisition rather than actual curiosity about how the labs work.”

The questionnaire asks for lists of employees involved in key climate change programs, including all those who have attended United Nations climate change conferences. It also asks for lists of employees involved in designing a metric known as the Social Cost of Carbon, a figure used by the Obama administration to measure the economic impact of carbon dioxide pollution, and to justify the economic cost of climate regulations.

It specifically asks which Energy Department programs are essential to meeting the goals of President Obama’s climate change agenda, which Mr. Trump has vowed to roll back.

It includes several questions for the Energy Information Administration, the department’s statistics office, which also measures the nation’s carbon dioxide pollution, asking for justification of its numbers.

“In the Annual Energy Outlook 2016, E.I.A. assumed that the Clean Power Plan should be in the reference case despite the fact that the reference case is based on existing laws and regulations,” the questionnaire reads. “Why did the E.I.A. make that assumption, which seems to be atypical of past forecasts?”

And it includes several questions focused on the national scientific laboratories, including queries on highest salaries, and outside evaluation of research.

Targeting clean up at the wrong ppl smh

 

[RustyShackleford]

Thank You.

It should be absolutely troubling that Trump is planning not to commit his full attention to the job.

Not only that, he have conflict of interest when deciding fiscal and economic policies.

 

[ninjahood]

Oh, this might be what Trump might've meant by draining the swamp?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/politics/donald-trump-transition.html?_r=0

Transition questionnaire alarms Energy Department employees.

President-elect Trump’s transition team has circulated an unusual 74-point questionnaire that requests the names of all employees and contractors who have attended domestic or international climate change policy conferences, as well as emails associated with the conferences.

Continue reading the main story
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Continue reading the main story
The questionnaire appears targeted at climate science research and clean energy programs.


Document: Transition Questionnaire Raises Concerns
Energy Department employees, who shared the questionnaire with The New York Times and spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, described the questionnaire as unprecedented and worrying.

“These questions don’t just indicate an attack on civil servants here in Washington,” said an Energy Department employee. “They amount to a witch hunt in D.O.E.’s 17 national labs, where scientists have the independence to do their work — yet here are questions that are reminiscent of an inquisition rather than actual curiosity about how the labs work.”

The questionnaire asks for lists of employees involved in key climate change programs, including all those who have attended United Nations climate change conferences. It also asks for lists of employees involved in designing a metric known as the Social Cost of Carbon, a figure used by the Obama administration to measure the economic impact of carbon dioxide pollution, and to justify the economic cost of climate regulations.

It specifically asks which Energy Department programs are essential to meeting the goals of President Obama’s climate change agenda, which Mr. Trump has vowed to roll back.

It includes several questions for the Energy Information Administration, the department’s statistics office, which also measures the nation’s carbon dioxide pollution, asking for justification of its numbers.

“In the Annual Energy Outlook 2016, E.I.A. assumed that the Clean Power Plan should be in the reference case despite the fact that the reference case is based on existing laws and regulations,” the questionnaire reads. “Why did the E.I.A. make that assumption, which seems to be atypical of past forecasts?”

And it includes several questions focused on the national scientific laboratories, including queries on highest salaries, and outside evaluation of research.

Targeting clean up at the wrong ppl smh

i beg to differ, especially when this was really being done.

 

[whywesteppin]

That's a nasty questionnaire. If someone handed it to me at work I would throw it out. It's unprofessionally written, too long, and carries a specific agenda.

Even if it wasn't obvious what it was trying to do, it was amateur. It's scary that Trump and an army of amateurs will be involved in these big decisions.

******* amateurs and trolls.

 

[everysingletime]

They basically wanna throw out anyone who cares about the environment, it looks like

 

[Belgium]

Clean energy is the future. Hustling backwards by targeting it.

 

[ninjahood]

They basically wanna throw out anyone who cares about the environment, it looks like

more like anyone who subscribed to da orthodoxy of global warming when its been a politicized partisan propaganda campaign since Copenhagen emails leaked about alot of info was engineered to fit a narrative.

 

[EddieDoyers]

They basically wanna throw out anyone who cares about the environment, it looks like

Yup
And as usual, Ninja supports it, because well, he still wants the hemi alive by 2025

 

[RustyShackleford]

They are Federal workers, civil servants, they are not politicizing anything.

Trump's people want to draw are target on the backs of folk that were either a) just doing their job b) believe they disagree with them

 

[whywesteppin]

They basically wanna throw out anyone who cares about the environment, it looks like

more like anyone who subscribed to da orthodoxy of global warming when its been a politicized partisan propaganda campaign since Copenhagen emails leaked about alot of info was engineered to fit a narrative.

Are you talking about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy



Please tell me that's the best you've got.

Have you ever read a scientific journal or even talked to a scientist in your life?

Eight committees investigated the allegations and published reports, finding no evidence of fraud or scientific misconduct.

You gotta stop wasting people's time.

edit: I'm gonna guess you're a piece of work when it comes to fringe medical treatments as well.

 

[gry60]

The are Federal workers, civil servants, they are no politicizing anything.

Trump's people want to draw are target on the backs of folk that were either a) just doing their job b) believe they disagree with them

An administration of Yes men. What could possibly go wrong?

Another sign of banana republicing the US.

 

[seandon23]

 
Clean energy is the future. Hustling backwards by targeting it.

exactly. what i dont understand is why doesnt the government invest more in cleaner forms of energy? innovation in that field could stimulate job growth and the economy. the first nation with a handle on clean, usable energy that can be accessible would lead the industry imo 

 

[everysingletime]

 
Clean energy is the future. Hustling backwards by targeting it.

exactly. what i dont understand is why doesnt the government invest more in cleaner forms of energy? innovation in that field could stimulate job growth and the economy. the first nation with a handle on clean, usable energy that can be accessible would lead the industry imo 

True story.

The Trump regime trying to stay in the past instead of diving into something new.

 

[seandon23]

True story.

The Trump regime trying to stay in the past instead of diving into something new.

yeah thats what i dont understand. this stuff isn't gonna be around forever anyways so sooner or later we are gonna have to worry about it. might as well do something about it now while we still have a planet lol

 

[EddieDoyers]

 
Clean energy is the future. Hustling backwards by targeting it.

exactly. what i dont understand is why doesnt the government invest more in cleaner forms of energy? innovation in that field could stimulate job growth and the economy. the first nation with a handle on clean, usable energy that can be accessible would lead the industry imo 

True story.

The Trump regime trying to stay in the past instead of diving into something new.

You're missing the big picture
Trump and the crony capitalists don't want any checks and balances to their business plans
A lot of Trump supporters argue against these checks and balances and say that this will restrict profits and limit job growth
What they don't realize is that majority of the big businesses, even if they are making record profits, will still look to downsize and cut salaries to establish more efficiency and more profits for the CEOs and stockholders, as shown in history.
Now tell me who the losers are going to be. It's not going to be the status quo establishment....it's going to be the 99% again.

 

[Based Jesus]

 

 
Clean energy is the future. Hustling backwards by targeting it.

exactly. what i dont understand is why doesnt the government invest more in cleaner forms of energy? innovation in that field could stimulate job growth and the economy. the first nation with a handle on clean, usable energy that can be accessible would lead the industry imo 

But da coal and da hemi b

 

[Belgium]

Are you talking about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy



Please tell me that's the best you've got.

Have you ever read a scientific journal or even talked to a scientist in your life?


You gotta stop wasting people's time.

edit: I'm gonna guess you're a piece of work when it comes to fringe medical treatments as well.

Remember this is the same guy who said "them scientists can go kick rocks b" when I asked him to refute the vast majority of top scientists agreeing that climate change is a real threat. Dozens of Nobel prize winning scientists and hundreds more top scientists have condemned Trump's anti-science rhetoric. But of course da ninja knows better than all of them.

 

[seandon23]

But da coal and da hemi b

We could have dat hemi runnin on cannoli oil b