***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[RustyShackleford]

Hillary weakness was that she was unlikable. She was unlikable partly because of people grabbing onto the attack the GOP had been throwing at her and Bill for years. Both Obama and Trump used it to their advantage.

She was still the most qualified person that has every run for President in modern times, and still ran on one of the most complete platform in recent memory.

All signs to her being a good president, and the rub being what kind of Congress she would face.

When it comes to politicians, the NBA comparison doesn't work for me. No Dem was beating her in that primary. They could have had 20 debates, and open primaries. She beat Bernie while using the kid gloves.

Her and her people misjudged the general

 

[ksteezy]

Video from foxnews:

Yo ninja? How is your mans gonna spin Fox Exposing him? After all this is who he endorsed as the only real news outlet out there...lmao.

I think Trump chewed on more than he can swallow, as a business man he could have died happy with all of his skeletons in his closet and millions of dirty money, as the President my sons is under a magnifying glass and EVERYTHING is being exposed...dude is gonna end up in prison I have no doubt of this....no amount of money will save him.

 

[IATT]

I don't think Dean gonna be the nominee in 2004 regardless. When he did that gaffe it was after the Iowa primary were he went from the favorite to fighting on for third pretty quickly.

Kerry and Edwards were both surging at that point.

But then again, he did get clowned something fierce for that. So who knows

-But the DNC did marvel at his grassroots campaign.

Just talking getting someone of that caliber stepping in to get things organized in house.. like say if hill took a backseat in '08

The level of disorganization is disconcerting.. way too many ppl going try shoot their shot

 

[Mark Antony]

How stupid can you be to bicker with intelligence agencies? Welp, there you go.

 

[frink85]

just caught the clips, good lord. dude is delusional.

Delusional Disorder (DSM-V)

Munro identified 10 characteristics of delusions (Munro, 1999). The patient expresses the delusional belief(s) with unusual force and persistence, and the belief or beliefs exert and inordinate effect on the patient’s life, often altering or dominating it. Despite profound conviction about the delusion, the patient is often secretive or suspicious in discussing it. Delusional patients tend to be oversensitive and humorless, especially regarding the delusion. The belief is central to the patient’s existence, and questioning it elicits an inappropriately strong emotional reaction. The belief is nevertheless unlikely, and not in keeping with the patient’s social, cultural or religious background. The patient is highly invested emotionally in the belief, and other elements of the psyche may be overwhelmed. If the belief is acted upon, abnormal behavior may result which is out of character for the patient, but which may be understandable in light of the delusion; the belief and behavior are felt to be uncharacteristic by those who know the patient.

Just take "delusion" and make it "delusions x 35"

 

[IATT]

Hillary weakness was that she was unlikable. She was unlikable partly because of people grabbing onto the attack the GOP had been throwing at her and Bill for years. Both Obama and Trump used it to their advantage.

She was still the most qualified person that has every run for President in modern times, and still ran on one of the most complete platform in recent memory.

All signs to her being a good president, and the rub being what kind of Congress she would face.

We know that.. at least most of us know that.. but still politics, where obviously popularity is incredibly important.. and ability to deliver a resounding message is key

For everything I've heard and read, those who worked with her say she was easily the most prepared and the biggest asset they had on a number of fronts

But she just didn't have that other thing.. which ain't her fault, some just don't got it

 

[IATT]

She wasn't my candidate of choice (I was a Bernie guy), but to even put her somewhere remotely close to Trump's level of trash is pure tomfoolery 

I wanted Bernie to legit see what he could pull off.. he was change I could support

But I was practically, Jeb and Rubio were guys I could live with because at least I knew they had a clue what to do

 

[Nike Jordan]

 

[whywesteppin]

Video from foxnews:

damn donakd, you bit off more than you could chew.

so we have lying about a crime. what will seal it is proof that trump is doing it because of debts to Russia or other business interests.

i am pretty sure trump's next reality TV show will be from his prison cell: "The Apprentice: disgraced potus repeatedly getting ****** in the shower, and he kind of enjoys it."

man, I'm investing in some popcorn stock NOW.

 

[IATT]

Debt you say:

Trump May Have a $300 Million Conflict of Interest With Deutsche Bank:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...orking-a-big-trump-loan-as-inauguration-nears


Deutsche Bank fined $630m over Russia money laundering claims:
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...ined-630m-over-russia-money-laundering-claims

 

[whywesteppin]

"If any person or persons, owing allegiance to the United States of America, shall levy war against them, or shall adhere to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States, or elsewhere, and shall be thereof convicted on confession in open Court, or on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act of the treason whereof he or they shall stand indicted, such person or persons shall be adjudged guilty of treason against the United States, and SHALL SUFFER DEATH;



(although, to be fair, trump's actions would probably fall under the other definition of treason)

 

[frink85]

damn watching it again, April Ryan shouldve went up there and slapped him for being so rude

 

[ksteezy]

This first comment

Oh if you only knew NTs own Trump fan...

 

[everysingletime]

Lol someone on twitter wrote :

'Trump complaining about the leaks is like the boyfriend who says the problem wasn't that he cheated, it's that you looked at his phone'

Lmao perfect analogy

 

[IATT]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/us/politics/donald-trump-media.html?_r=0

And of course:

 

[IATT]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/15/...35E51176B92C4A8296A&gwt=pay&assetType=opinion

 

[whywesteppin]

And of course:

eat the cake Anna Mae

 

[AEA18]

Why is he allowing foreigners and illegals to steal 'Mericans jobs?

 

[Nike Jordan]

It's like the Seinfeld revival that nobody asked for, but we're getting it anyway.

 

[flyeed]

Since the president's staff has already been infiltrated by white supremacists, is a Pence presidency almost as alarming as the amateur hour we've seen from Drumpf?

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Hillary weakness was that she was unlikable. She was unlikable partly because of people grabbing onto the attack the GOP had been throwing at her and Bill for years. Both Obama and Trump used it to their advantage.

She was still the most qualified person that has every run for President in modern times, and still ran on one of the most complete platform in recent memory.

All signs to her being a good president, and the rub being what kind of Congress she would face.

When it comes to politicians, the NBA comparison doesn't work for me. No Dem was beating her in that primary. They could have had 20 debates, and open primaries. She beat Bernie while using the kid gloves.

Her and her people misjudged the general

Hilary Clinton is the worst Presidential candidate in our lifetime.

"Platforms" don't get people elected. Also given her proven track record of saying whatever it takes to get elected who really knows what she would she actually do.

If you simply think her being unlikable is the reason she lost I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Nike Jordan]

John Kerry, Al Gore and Bob Dole were far worse candidates. Not even close.

 

[SneakerProSr.]

John Kerry, Al Gore and Bob Dole were far worse candidates. Not even close.

None of those dudes had the airplane sized amount of baggage she had.

 

[EddieDoyers]

 

[TURBO UNO]

John Kerry, Al Gore and Bob Dole were far worse candidates. Not even close.

I thought Al Gore was a shoe in after Clinton. He got my very first ever vote too, bummed when he lost.