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probably made him eat from the floor too word to Four Brothers
 
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Hillary was a retread head coach. The DNC hired Mike Brown to try to win a title.

It was pretty obvious the populist movement was the wave in 2016 but they wanted to shove the tainted Clinton name down our throats. Could've nominated any young blood and that Clown would've gotten washed. Yet now we're here... :{
 
I firmly believe Hillary's flaws were greatly exaggerated because she was a woman. I know it's futile to pursue though as dudes won't take the time to be introspective.


Allllll of this.

Cold part is I always felt there was sexism inside the white community in this election... angry men against women and some women against women.

A white woman voting for Donald Trump? After the way he talked about women? Yeah, you just want a man in charge because there is no logical reason whey you would rock with that.
 
Nobody stopped anyone from entering the race. It's water under the bridge...
...not the bridge that Chris Christie allegedly shut down. 
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Rusty, can you set up a meeting with me and Barbara Lee and Neil Tyson?

Eddiegambino, can you give me a line to Rodrigo Duterte and LeLand Yee and Shrimp Boy?

Ninja, get me a sit down with Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and Zoey Deschnel.

Also, guys, just ask, I'll get you any meeting you want with Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz or Pau Gasol or Ricky Rubio or Manu Ginobili, for that matter.
 
Hillary weakness was that she was unlikable. She was unlikable partly because of people grabbing onto the attack the GOP had been throwing at her and Bill for years. Both Obama and Trump used it to their advantage.

She was still the most qualified person that has every run for President in modern times, and still ran on one of the most complete platform in recent memory.

All signs to her being a good president, and the rub being what kind of Congress she would face.

When it comes to politicians, the NBA comparison doesn't work for me. No Dem was beating her in that primary. They could have had 20 debates, and open primaries. She beat Bernie while using the kid gloves.

Her and her people misjudged the general

Hilary Clinton is the worst Presidential candidate in our lifetime.

"Platforms" don't get people elected. Also given her proven track record of saying whatever it takes to get elected who really knows what she would she actually do.

If you simply think her being unlikable is the reason she lost I don't know what to tell you.

You got another reason?
 
Rusty, can you set up a meeting with me and Barbara Lee and Neil Tyson?

Eddiegambino, can you give me a line to Rodrigo Duterte and LeLand Yee and Shrimp Boy?

Ninja, get me a sit down with Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and Zoey Deschnel.

Also, guys, just ask, I'll get you any meeting you want with Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz or Pau Gasol or Ricky Rubio or Manu Ginobili, for that matter.
Rex, if you would like a meeting with Cobra or maybe even the GI Joes, send a PM to @Methodical Management.
 
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Hillary weakness was that she was unlikable. She was unlikable partly because of people grabbing onto the attack the GOP had been throwing at her and Bill for years. Both Obama and Trump used it to their advantage.

She was still the most qualified person that has every run for President in modern times, and still ran on one of the most complete platform in recent memory.

All signs to her being a good president, and the rub being what kind of Congress she would face.

When it comes to politicians, the NBA comparison doesn't work for me. No Dem was beating her in that primary. They could have had 20 debates, and open primaries. She beat Bernie while using the kid gloves.

Her and her people misjudged the general

Hilary Clinton is the worst Presidential candidate in our lifetime.

"Platforms" don't get people elected. Also given her proven track record of saying whatever it takes to get elected who really knows what she would she actually do.

If you simply think her being unlikable is the reason she lost I don't know what to tell you.

If you really think Hillary is worst than people like Dole, Dukakis, Perot, Kerry, Gore and even Bush Jr. Then I don't know what to tell you.

Platform get people elected because platforms are the issues, they are what you need to message and what you need to message. Hillary Clinton has a damb nearly 25 year record, she came into the public eye a liberal and became more and more so as time went on. Her being pro financial industry is not abnormal given she is represents New York. You criticize her for "not know what she is doing to do" but that goes for all politician, Hillary is in no way special. Obama didn't keep all his promises, and Bernie Sanders damb sure wasn't gonna keep his. That is nearly impossible to do.

Hillary fought Obama tooth and nail in 2008 (probably Obama's hardest race) and lost by a razor thin margin in 2016. She had sexism working against her, a foreign government, the head of FBI incompetency, voter suppression target at some of her major constituents, and a smear machine doing 24/7 (and has been going that way for the past two decades plus), and apathetic that Jedi mind tricked themselves into thinking there was no real difference between the two candidates .

She spent too much time attacking Trump, there message was too complex, and she didn't block Trump's one path the White House. All those things fall squarely on her.

But there is sizable level of irrational hate focused at the woman. That is why I point so many of them out during the primary. Nearly every single purity test people gave her, their preferred candidate probably failed it too.

Very few politicians have come as far as Hillary given how much time money and energy that has been spent to stop her. If there was a better option in the Democratic Party, then that person should have ran. But they would have probably been ran the same fade Bernie got.

Having ideological differences with Hillary Clinton is perfectly reasonable. But I will not hold her to a different standard than nearly every other politician gets held too.
 
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Rusty, can you set up a meeting with me and Barbara Lee and Neil Tyson?

Eddiegambino, can you give me a line to Rodrigo Duterte and LeLand Yee and Shrimp Boy?

Ninja, get me a sit down with Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and Zoey Deschnel.

Also, guys, just ask, I'll get you any meeting you want with Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz or Pau Gasol or Ricky Rubio or Manu Ginobili, for that matter.

Bernie and Lizzy got da Taino blood too 8o
 
I firmly believe Hillary's flaws were greatly exaggerated because she was a woman. I know it's futile to pursue though as dudes won't take the time to be introspective.

I agree famb.

Another aspect of this is the bias women, especially conservative women, have against seeing a woman in power.
 
at least go after Walmart instead.:{

target is where all the cute girls shop.

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we really do need to crack down on white terrorists though. Rico, quick, make a list for us of all angry white trump supporters.
 
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Speaking of which, I never want to hear the both candidates were trash argument again. The people that say that either don't want to, or are not capable of critical analysis. Bunch of faux intellectuals popped out of nowhere these past few months, cats need to sit the **** down 

This cat I used to rock with is a Bernie bro and is so damn stubborn. He takes wikileaks as a gospel and voted for Jill Stein. And he think the entire Russia thing is BS. Like son please cartwheel into a room full of hornets nests. ******* Sanders has fractured the Democratic party into moderates vs. Pseudo intellectual know it alls who have no foresight
 
I firmly believe Hillary's flaws were greatly exaggerated because she was a woman. I know it's futile to pursue though as dudes won't take the time to be introspective.

I agree famb.

Another aspect of this is the bias women, especially conservative women, have against seeing a woman in power.


I can't speak for conservative women but my wife thought it was ******** that first woman President still had to be validated by her husband's success.
 
Speaking of which, I never want to hear the both candidates were trash argument again. The people that say that either don't want to, or are not capable of critical analysis. Bunch of faux intellectuals popped out of nowhere these past few months, cats need to sit the **** down 

This cat I used to rock with is a Bernie bro and is so damn stubborn. He takes wikileaks as a gospel and voted for Jill Stein. And he think the entire Russia thing is BS. Like son please cartwheel into a room full of hornets nests. ******* Sanders has fractured the Democratic party into moderates vs. Pseudo intellectual know it alls who have no foresight

So Wikileaks was all made up?
 
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