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I know my man aepps20 aepps20 will be upset for Rosie the riveter, so I figured I could hook her up with something new since even da coal executives don't want da coal to flourish:

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Tesla ain't got nothing on this!
 
I know my man aepps20 aepps20 will be upset for Rosie the riveter, so I figured I could hook her up with something new since even da coal executives don't want da coal to flourish:

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Tesla ain't got nothing on this!

Excellent post as usual. My sources tell me that Rosie Da Riviter is disappointed but Thomas Da Train is still giving Da Don a chance. Rosie will get back on Da team when she understands dat Da Don is playing 12D chess on Da Libbies.
 
Nunes is running scared now it seems...
@PeterAlexander: BREAKING: Chairman Nunes has scrapped all House Intelligence Cmte meetings this week, per source close to cmte member.

I should note that yesterday,Dems started calling for him to resign from the committee after last weeks debacle
 

Because it's a lie?

Besides, there are much better alternatives to coal as a power source, so excuse me if I don't shed tears if that industry dies.

coal still powers 33% of da US, its only threat is da Fracking friend Natural gas, so there's that.

Decades ago, the percent of coal used as a generation source was above 50%.

Can you say downward trend?

Furthermore, as the exec mentioned, the fall of coal is purely due to market forces, the same way VHS was replaced by DVDs which was replaced by blu rays, which are all being supplanted by digital streaming and storage solutions.

It's all about efficiency. Natural gas will stay if it proves to be as efficient as renewables.
 
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Because it's a lie?

Besides, there are much better alternatives to coal as a power source, so excuse me if I don't shed tears if that industry dies.

coal still powers 33% of da US, its only threat is da Fracking friend Natural gas, so there's that.

Decades ago, the percent of coal used as a generation source was above 50%.

Can you say downward trend?

decades? :lol

it was above 50% less than 10 years ago.

da market corrosion has been credited almost exclusively due to da Fracking revolution.

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One thing that keeps popping up in the healthcare debates is a single payer healthcare system. Why not opt for a smaller step in that direction?

You can count the number of countries with a true single payer healthcare system on one hand, Canada being the prime example.

In Belgium we have universal healthcare but it's a multi-payer system. I can go to whatever doctor/clinic I want, choose from a wide variety of insurance plans (public or private) with coverage up to 100% and change my insurance at any time, as many times as I want despite my pre-existing condition. I changed my insurance plan to 100% coverage earlier last year to fully cover all the medical bills I'm racking up as an elite team of specialists search for a diagnosis for my condition. A cancer patient is free to change to a 100% coverage plan right before or during an expensive chemo treatment too. On top of that, government subsidizes healthcare costs so prices generally aren't very high even before taking insurance into account. My CT-scans, MRI's, ... only cost me about €10-15 out of pocket, which is then covered 100% by my insurance. Even my bill for 6 months of DNA testing was just barely over €100. The most expensive medical bill I've had was my partial lung removal surgery, which was around €4400 if I recall correctly. It was a complex and long surgery performed by one of the country's best lung surgeons who is a renowned expert on my particular condition. It was an emergency so I only had basic insurance at the time and ended up having to pay a rather hefty amount out of pocket but regardless, it does not come anywhere close to the US' base costs for medical procedures. Because our government puts a lot of money into the system to keep medical procedure costs within reasonable ranges.

I think a multipayer universal healthcare system like we have, and many of our fellow European countries, works fine for most people. I like to think of universal healthcare as a net benefit for society, even if you have some objection to your taxes going to helping yourself and other people. A sick population with people drowning in thousands of dollars in medical debt doesn't benefit anyone besides the for-profit healthcare industry. 
 
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One thing that keeps popping up in the healthcare debates is a single payer healthcare system. Why not opt for a smaller step in that direction?
You can count the number of countries with a true single payer healthcare system on one hand, Canada being the prime example.
In Belgium we have universal healthcare but it's a multi-payer system. I can go to whatever doctor/clinic I want, choose from a wide variety of insurance plans (public or private) with coverage up to 100% and change my insurance at any time, as many times as I want despite my pre-existing condition. I changed my insurance plan to 100% coverage earlier last year to fully cover all the medical bills I'm racking up as an elite team of specialists search for a diagnosis for my condition. A cancer patient is free to change to a 100% coverage plan right before or during an expensive chemo treatment too. On top of that, government subsidizes healthcare costs so prices generally aren't very high even before taking insurance into account. My CT-scans, MRI's, ... only cost me about €10-15 out of pocket, which is then covered 100% by my insurance. Even my bill for 6 months of DNA testing was just barely over €100. The most expensive medical bill I've had was my partial lung removal surgery, which was around €4400 if I recall correctly. It was a complex and long surgery performed by one of the country's best lung surgeons who is a renowned expert on my particular condition. It was an emergency so I only had basic insurance at the time and ended up having to pay a rather hefty amount out of pocket but regardless, it does not come anywhere close to the US' base costs for medical procedures. Because our government puts a lot of money into the system to keep medical procedure costs within reasonable ranges.

I think a multipayer universal healthcare system like we have, and many of our fellow European countries, works fine for most people. I like to think of universal healthcare as a net benefit for society, even if you have some objection to your taxes going to helping yourself and other people. A sick population with people drowning in thousands of dollars in medical debt doesn't benefit anyone besides the for-profit healthcare industry. 

Short answer, the GOP control everything and it's not their idea so we won't move in that direction. We'd have to wait until the Dems control everything which won't happen for a long time.
 
^ I don't think he will do it. He will probably not want the bad image of people booing him, and also him skipping a pitch (if it gets that far)... I wonder if he can even grip a baseball with his small hands.
 
I could imagine he'll rig it somehow. Use a smaller ball or move up 10 feet or something so that he has a chance to get it across the plate.

Then the story will come out and we'll see him tweet about fake news...
 
the donald could've been a mlb player...check this article out...

9 Things You Didn't Know About Donald Trump's Baseball Career

He was scouted by the Philadelphia Phillies and Boston Red Sox.

He chose real estate over professional baseball because he wanted to make "real money."

He would smash his friends' bats in anger and not apologize

He hit into the shift on purpose because he "wanted to overpower" people.

At 12, he wrote a poem about baseball.

Fred Trump wouldn't buy his son the latest glove.

He could throw 80 MPH and turned a catcher's hand black and blue.

He was "the best baseball player in New York."

As a catcher, he was unbothered by balls to the face.


http://www.complex.com/sports/2016/11/donald-trump-baseball/
 
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JUST IN: Trump is NOT throwing out first pitch at @Nationals opening day. @wamu885

Dude really hasn't made any public appearances outside of properties that he owns...I would LOVE to see him toss the first pitch just to hear the reaction from the crowd as he's introduced.
 

Because it's a lie?

Besides, there are much better alternatives to coal as a power source, so excuse me if I don't shed tears if that industry dies.

coal still powers 33% of da US, its only threat is da Fracking friend Natural gas, so there's that.

Decades ago, the percent of coal used as a generation source was above 50%.

Can you say downward trend?

decades? :lol

it was above 50% less than 10 years ago.

da market corrosion has been credited almost exclusively due to da Fracking revolution.

sharetotal.png

Here's a better graph, starting way before 2007:

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As you can see, the share of coal in electricity production has been steadily decreasing since 1985. So yeah, decades...

Also:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ering-coal-leases-that-no-one-wants-right-now

For its part, Peabody, the largest U.S. coal miner by volume, won’t need another federal coal lease in Wyoming and Montana’s Powder River Basin for “approximately a decade at this point,’’ spokesman Vic Svec said by phone. While it viewed the moratorium as "poor policy," Peabody enjoys “a comfortable amount of coal reserves,” Svec said.

Oh look!! The largest producer of coal has enough reserves to last another decade in an environment where its product is falling out of favor with the buyers.

The problem with getting your info strictly from Fox News and rightwing media outlets is that you develop blindspots AND enough ego to reject any challenge to your worldview.

The goal of the moratorium imposed by Obama was to study the impact of coal on climate and establish policies that would counter the negative effects of coal mining on the environment and the people. That's not killing coal: that is determining whether this industry is going to result in increased heath safety hazards, water, air, and food pollution the government will be asked to pay for in the future.

Now if your president was truly a pro-worker kind of guy, he'd take this into account:

http://www.pressreleasepoint.com/at...-energy-employs-far-more-workers-coal-oil-gas

Sierra Club’s analysis of DOE data shows that, nationally, clean energy jobs outnumber all fossil fuel jobs by over 2.5 to 1; and they outnumber all jobs in coal and gas by 5 to 1.

The report also demonstrates that 41 states and Washington, D.C. (80% of the total) have more clean energy jobs than fossil fuel jobs from all sources.

He'd probably look at how power companies are having trouble hiring people right now:

http://www.energycentral.com/news/a...NEWS&utm_content=486614&utm_source=2017_03_28

Facing a wave of retirement over the next three to five years, Austin Energy urgently needs to revamp its hiring approach, staff told the Electric Utility Commission at its March 20 meeting.
[...]
Over the past half year, Austin Energy's number of position vacancies has hovered around 6 percent, but the average number of days a position remains vacant rose from 100 days last October to over 140 days in February.

But, nooooo!! Let's prop up dying industries because they used to be great.
 
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