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the don jr meeting with the russian was on june 9.

don sr tweeted this out in the afternoon:

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and this thread pretty much confirms much of the timeline (don sr was likely informed of the meeting the same day):

 
Trump is going at Comey because it may have been determined that many of his memos contained classified material. Memos he handed over to have homeboy

This is the exact thing he was so critical of Clinton for. :smh: :lol:

Been telling you all Comey is self serving clown too. Hillary Clinton must running into the woods constantly to let out a scream.
 
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http://thehill.com/policy/national-...s-on-trump-conversations-contained-classified
 
More than half of the memos former FBI chief James Comey wrote as personal recollections of his conversations with President Trump about the Russia investigation have been determined to contain classified information, according to interviews with officials familiar with the documents.

This revelation raises the possibility that Comey broke his own agency’s rules and ignored the same security protocol that he publicly criticized Hillary Clinton  for in the waning days of the 2016 presidential election.

Comey testified last month he considered the memos to be personal documents and that he shared at least one of them with a Columbia University lawyer friend. He asked that lawyer to leak information from one memo to the news media in hopes of increasing pressure to get a special prosecutor named in the Russia case after Comey was fired as FBI director. 
“So you didn’t consider your memo or your sense of that conversation to be a government document?,” Sen. Roy Blunt  (R-Mo.) asked Comey on June 8.  “You considered it to be, somehow, your own personal document that you could share to the media as you wanted through a friend?”
“Correct,” Comey answered. “I understood this to be my recollection recorded of my conversation with the president. As a private citizen, I thought it important to get it out.” 

Comey insisted in his testimony he believed his personal memos were unclassified, though he hinted one or two documents he created might have been contained classified information.

“I immediately prepared an unclassified memo of the conversation about Flynn and discussed the matter with FBI senior leadership,” he testified about the one memo he later leaked about former national security adviser Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.

He added, “My view was that the content of those unclassified, memorialization of those conversations was my recollection recorded.”

But when the seven memos Comey wrote regarding his nine conversations with Trump about Russia earlier this year were shown to Congress in recent days, the FBI claimed all were, in fact, deemed to be government documents.

While the Comey memos have been previously reported, this is the first time there has been a number connected to the amount of the memos the ex-FBI chief wrote.

Four of the memos had markings making clear they contained information classified at the “secret” or “confidential” level, according to officials directly familiar with the matter.

A spokesman for the FBI on Sunday declined to comment.

FBI policy  forbids any agent from releasing classified information or any information from ongoing investigations or sensitive operations without prior written permission, and mandates that all records created during official duties are considered to be government property.

“Unauthorized disclosure, misuse, or negligent handling of information contained in the files, electronic or paper, of the FBI or which I may acquire as an employee of the FBI could impair national security, place human life in jeopardy, result in the denial of due process, prevent the FBI from effectively discharging its responsibilities, or violate federal law,” states the agreement all FBI agents sign.

It adds that “all information acquired by me in connection with my official duties with the FBI and all official material to which I have access remain the property of the United States of America” and that an agent “will not reveal, by any means, any information or material from or related to FBI files or any other information acquired by virtue of my official employment to any unauthorized recipient without prior official written authorization by the FBI.”

Comey indicated in his testimony the memos were in his possession when he left the bureau, leaving him in a position to leak one of them through his lawyer friend to the media. But he testified that he has since turned them over to Robert Mueller, a former FBI chief and now spearheading the investigation about possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. 

It is not clear whether Comey as director signed the same agreement as his agents, but the contract is considered the official policy of the bureau. It was also unclear when the documents were shown to Congress whether the information deemed "secret" or "confidential" was classified at the time Comey wrote the memos or determined so afterwards, the sources said.

Congressional investigators had already begun examining whether Comey’s creation, storage and sharing of the memos violated FBI rules, but the revelation that four of the seven memos included some sort of classified information opens a new door of inquiry into whether classified information was mishandled, improperly stored or improperly shared. 

Ironically, that was the same issue the FBI investigated in 2015-16 under Comey about Clinton’s private email server, where as secretary of State she and top aides moved classified information through insecure channels.

Comey ultimately concluded in July 2016 that Clinton’s email practices were reckless, but that he could not recommend prosecution because FBI agents had failed to find enough evidence that she intended to violate felony statutes prohibiting the transmission of classified information through insecure practices.

“Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of the classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information," he said in a decision panned by Republicans and embraced by Democrats. 

Now,congressional investigators are likely to turn their attention to the same issues to determine if Comey mishandled any classified information in his personal memos.

In order to make an assessment, congressional investigators will have to tackle key questions, such as:
  • Where and how were the memos were created, such as whether they were written on an insecure computer or notepad.
  • Where and how the memos were stored, such as inside his home, his briefcase or an insecure laptop.
  • Were any memos shown to private individuals without a security clearance and did those memos contain any classified information
  • When was it determined by the government that the memos contained classified information, before Comey took them and shared one or after.
One avenue for answering those questions is for a panel like Senate Intelligence, House Intelligence or Senate Judiciary to refer the matter to the Justice Department’s internal watchdog, the inspector general, or to the Director of National Intelligence and its inspector general, aides said.
 
I really hope no one's falling for trump's ********. He's wrong 99% of the time. For anyone who buys it, I have a bridge to sell you.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...he-law-based-on-a-misleading-fox-news-report/

It’s true that “the former FBI director’s personal memos detailing private conversations with President Trump contained … secret information,” as the Fox report summarizes, though not, apparently, top secret material. (The levels of classifications go “confidential,” “secret” and then “top secret.”) But the wording on that Fox report is misleading. The memos contained classified information is true when considering the memos as a group. It is not true, though, that each memo contained classified information — or, at least, it’s not true that each memo was marked as being classified.

Which raises another question (from a commenter on the article):

When the President of the United States falsely accuses the former FBI director of a crime, is it libel?

This whole thing was already brought up and discussed by Comey himself at his testimony last month. But expect the same fools who fell for the "Comey reopening Hillary's email investigation" stunt to fall for this one as well. It's somehow ironic but also moronic.
 
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The irony if Comey is determined to have indeed violated FBI protocol regarding government/classified documents 
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Personally I think Hillary should have ideally faced a strong penalty of some kind for her private email server to signal the importance of proper cybersecurity. Unfortunately the whole email thing was blown way out of proportion and heavily politicized. I don't know about criminal charges as I'm not nearly familiar enough with the legality of the whole classified/top secret/confidential issue to speak on that but I do feel that the end result was dissatisfactory. It's a tricky subject given all of this politicization to take into account, but I see proper cybersecurity protocols as very important and essential in these times.

The problem is also of course the double standard. Where was the fierce criticism for the Trump administration's total lack of care for proper security on their social media accounts? Practically the whole administration's private email addresses were visible to anyone who can click the password reset option on social media and use a bit of thinking to decipher the partially censored email addresses. It took an article from The Intercept on the social media security risks of the administration for them to finally enable additional security and/or change to government issued email addresses. The exception being Flynn, who maintained and still has his private email attached to his twitter. And while Trump altered his personal account's security shortly after that report, he did not immediately do so for the @POTUS twitter account. You could see that a gmail belonging to Dan Scavino had access to the POTUS account for example.

I don't have the skillset or the malicious intent myself but I do know a handful of people who can breach gmails or access certain social media accounts without requiring a password etc. through various private methods. Those people are quite shady but relatively harmless and are just tiny fish compared to elite state sponsored hackers. I imagine those people would have a lot more methods and resources at their disposal to exploit such security risks.
 
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The walls are closing indeed. The WALLS ARE CLOSING ON THE Libbies.
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BUILD THAT WALL! 
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Just look at how desperate they are getting b

Have you seen this? Da libbies are shook. Yet another "bombshell" nothingburger report to relegate the "collusion" excuse to da dustbin. We're in July 2017 and these libbies still haven't gotten over the fact that HILLARY LOST. It's time these snowflakes just GET OVER IT and drop this pathetic Russia hoax excuse. And by the way, collusion isn't illegal and Papa Vlad is a far stronger leader than Obummer or Killary. Sad!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-of-russian-contacts/?utm_term=.acf6fad2b15a
 
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And that's not all b

If da scoped Papa Vlad musket doesn't scare off the libbie globalists when they come to take away my heritage, guns and my coal, I got another surprise for them if they get closer. 
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They might be able to sneak past da scope but there's no escaping da Putin shotgun b
 
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