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If Bern gets close in NC and Florid, I would count that as a real shift momentum. Especially considering how he got washed everywhere else in the South.

Margins for Trump will get smaller but not significantly. Kasich isn't gonna win another state outside of Ohio and still will have less delegates than Rubio (even if he looses Florida) so I don't know why we're taking him seriously.
 
The GOP race is basically over with if Drumpf somehow wins Ohio :lol
 
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If Bern gets close in NC and Florid, I would count that as a real shift momentum. Especially considering how he got washed everywhere else in the South.

Margins for Trump will get smaller but not significantly. Kasich isn't gonna win another state outside of Ohio and still will have less delegates than Rubio (even if he looses Florida) so I don't know why we're taking him seriously.

Bern got smoked in Florida.
 
I guess the whole point of voting for Kasich is to make sure Trump doesnt lock up the nomination. Otherwise, he has not shot, even though Im acutally surprised he hasnt done better.
 
what's sad is that some see the world as so black and white (I'm not talking race, either). like everyone in their worldview is either a right wing Republican or a left wing Democrat. I could go into the psychiatry of it, but just suffice it to say it says a lot about someone when everything breaks down into one extreme or another.

I would guess the majority of NT does not belong to one party or another. even my friends who lean one way or another will share views with both sides depending on the issue and the nuances. for example I'm not necessarily for raising the minimum wage but I am in favor of some sort of safety net for basic human needs. does that make me a "lefty" or a "righty"? no, it's neither. trying to classify everyone into one or another is simply either dishonest or lazy.

now there are some issues of human rights that I don't think are a gray zone, and those include things like equality for all. how we best enforce that in policy is a matter of debate. but openly encouraging bigotry, hatred, and violence, especially from political office, is no longer an issue of right or left, but rather something that is universally bad.

anyway, I'm eagerly awaiting tonight's primary results, and I ask everyone in this thread, as a fellow NTer, to drop the insults and the polarity and instead have an objective, level-headed discussion in here for once.
 
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Wow its only at 1% right now.. but trump is already at 45% in Ohio. It might be a clean sweep for him tonight 
 
Wow its only at 1% right now.. but trump is already at 45% in Ohio. It might be a clean sweep for him tonight 

That's surprising to me also. Everything I heard pointed to a small Kasich win in Ohio. If the Don pulls off Ohio it could be all over. :smokin
 
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2% in, kasich with 39% and Drumpf with 36%. of course this all depends on which regions of Ohio are reporting first.

edit: 45 vs 31 now :eek

if this holds (which it won't, but let's say it does hypothetically), should Drumpf drop out? (half-joking)
 
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2% in, kasich with 39% and Drumpf with 36%. of course this all depends on which regions of Ohio are reporting first.

Damn. Yea they said lots of independents and democrats were crossing over to vote for their governor Kasich, so he has a definite home state advantage there. Kasich will probably pull it out but who knows.
 
Trump wins Florida. Bye bye Little Marco.
 
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The exit polls are interesting. They are usually pretty spot on whcih means Trump may lose Ohio and Missouri.
 
Think Drumpf is going to get washed in Ohio looking at the map.
 
The exit polls are interesting. They are usually pretty spot on whcih means Trump may lose Ohio and Missouri.
yup. the sample size is small but he's doing well in nearly every category. he's doing just as well among first time voters as he is with people who voted in past Republican primaries, so he's not winning simply off outsiders coming in to vote against Drumpf. but of course the home-state advantage is the biggest factor.

however, to put it in perspective, Rubio lost by 20 points despite a home -state advantage, so that's only part of the story.
 
yup. the sample size is small but he's doing well in nearly every category. he's doing just as well among first time voters as he is with people who voted in past Republican primaries, so he's not winning simply off outsiders coming in to vote against Drumpf. but of course the home-state advantage is the biggest factor.

however, to put it in perspective, Rubio lost by 20 points despite a home -state advantage, so that's only part of the story.

Closed vs open primary is huge. There have apparently been tons of Dems and Independents in OH that voted for Kasich as well, which could be why Bernie is also talking an early washing there as well to this point.
 
Trump wins FL and OH i dont see how he is stopped. No one will vote for a romney type if the GOP "steals" the nom from trump
 
how big of a factor is it, though? Drumpf has benefited from open primaries as well. based on exit polls, kasich is doing best with Democrats but winning among Republicans and independents as well. do we interpret it as this meaning kasich only beating Drumpf because of outsider Democrats, or does kasich use this to argue he would do better in a general election?
 
Marco giving his concession speech? 8o

That response to the heckler :lol,"Don't worry,you won't get beat up at our rally" :lol

I kinda feel for him tbh,he looks sad
 
how big of a factor is it, though? Drumpf has benefited from open primaries as well. based on exit polls, kasich is doing best with Democrats but winning among Republicans and independents as well. do we interpret it as this meaning kasich only beating Drumpf because of outsider Democrats, or does kasich use this to argue he would do better in a general election?
It's huge today in keeping Drumpf from getting Ohio, which would basically guarantee him the nomination. They all want a contested convention. Kasich doesn't mathematically have a path to the nomination, but for one night he's the GOP's only hope at stopping Trump from securing the nomination outright. 
 
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