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i feel you but you really can't speak on "truth" if you never been through it.
i never felt like a hired goon tbh
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i never felt like a hired goon tbh
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I don't feel like I need to go thru it to see that one of their main purposes is to carry out the agenda of corrupt and amoral politicians. Not tryna start ****, just saying
MalcolmNewton
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It is true that there are "militarists" in the military, usually up in the higher ranks (O-6 and above, senior enlisted). The rank and file usually aren't until they're indoctrinated. Now in that rank and file you do have some gung-ho boys from the country who want to go out and kill mooooooslims but a majority join because their isn't anything else to do and they have mouths to feed. Lets look at the brother who was killed last summer in Niger. He had a wife and 3 kids, at a very young age. Be a cashier at WalMart or get guaranteed housing and benefits for the family? Decisions, decisions.
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Bush's second term campaign was based around that idea. To make you realize how stupid the US public has been, don't forget that they slandered Kerry on Fox News so much that people started to question his military service in Vietnam.
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Right. I understand and respect that they're just tryna make a living. I just don't buy into the idea that you're supposed to reveer vets or treat them as heroes. Blatant propaganda. Glorified bloods and crips
MalcolmNewton
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Keep in mind also local economy plays a factor. You're someone from a small town, no decent paying jobs popping, maybe you want to go off to college but those student loans make you cringe, you want to get up out of there so you don't start getting caught up with the wrong crowd. We know all this is by design of course in order to feed the war machine more bodies.
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I get it bro 
. You're right tho. My beef is moreso with the way the gov advertises and utilizes/exploits them, no fault of their own
. You're right tho. My beef is moreso with the way the gov advertises and utilizes/exploits them, no fault of their own
MalcolmNewton
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People that never served (like Trump) always slobber over military and use it as a political shield "Democrats don't want to pass a budget, they hate our military!!" blah blah blah. They are toys for them to play with. They don't give a ish about veterans though. 1000's out on the street or disabled (or both) and purposely ignored.
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Damn. Trump reached mission accomplished even quicker than gwb. He really is the bigly best president elect ever.
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Trump Pardons Ex-Cheney Aide Scooter Libby
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/13/politics/donald-trump-pardons-scooter-libby/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/13/politics/donald-trump-pardons-scooter-libby/index.html
Washington (CNN) - President Donald Trump granted a pardon on Friday to Scooter Libby, the chief of staff to then-Vice President **** Cheney who was convicted of perjury in 2007.
The move to pardon Libby -- who became embroiled in a special counsel investigation involving then-Deputy Attorney General James Comey -- comes at a resonant moment. Trump himself is wrapped up in a special counsel investigation that he's decried as a "witch hunt," and is fuming about a book Comey has written detailing his interactions with Trump when he was serving as FBI director.
In a statement, Trump conceded he has no personal relationship with Libby, whose case has been held up by conservatives as an example of a special counsel overstepping his bounds.
"I don't know Mr. Libby," Trump said in a statement released by the White House. "But for years I have heard that he has been treated unfairly. Hopefully, this full pardon will help rectify a very sad portion of his life."
Libby said in a statement he and his family are "immensely grateful to President Trump for his gracious decision to grant a pardon."
"For over a dozen years we have suffered under the weight of a terrible injustice," he wrote. "To his great credit, President Trump recognized this wrong and would not let it persist."
Libby's attorney, Bill Jeffress, told CNN on Friday afternoon that the former vice president's chief of staff's pardon was "well-deserved and overdue." The White House had not been in contact with Libby's primary trial lawyer, who learned about the potential pardon Thursday night from media reports. He then emailed Libby, whose reaction was not to celebrate to soon, Jeffress said.
"I had no reason until I heard last night to know that anything was imminent," Jeffress said on a phone call Friday. "I had my hopes up for quite awhile. We've been trying since the end of the Bush administration to get this done."
Libby had been convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice in 2007 in the investigation into who leaked the identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame. He was not accused of the leak itself.
Four months after Libby's conviction, President George W. Bush commuted the 30-month sentence but would not grant a pardon, despite requests from Cheney. Libby paid a $250,000 fine and completed his community service and probation following the conviction.
In a statement, **** Cheney called Libby "one of the most capable, principled, and honorable men I have ever known. He is innocent, and he and his family have suffered for years because of his wrongful conviction. I am grateful today that President Trump righted this wrong by issuing a full pardon to Scooter, and I am thrilled for Scooter and his family."
A spokesman for Bush, Freddy Ford, said of the pardon, "President Bush is very pleased for Scooter and his family."
Libby was convicted in a case headed up by special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, who was named by Comey, then serving as a top Justice Department
official. Comey was fired as FBI director by Trump last year.
Libby's allies have claimed he was the victim of an overzealous special counsel, and have said his statements reflected differences in memory between himself and other witnesses, not an intent to lie.
Fitzgerald released a statement Friday that said in part, "Mr. Libby, represented by able counsel, received a fair trial before an exacting trial judge and a jury who found the facts clearly established that Libby committed the crimes he was charged with. That was true yesterday. It remains true today. ... The President has the right to pardon Mr. Libby and Mr. Libby has been pardoned. But the facts have not changed."
People loyal to Libby have recently come into Trump's inner circle, including former Bush administration official John Bolton, who now serves as Trump's national security adviser. Two lawyers associated with Libby, Joseph diGenova and Victoria Toensing, recently considered joining Trump's legal team before declining because of potential conflicts.
"Many people think that Scooter Libby was a victim of a special counsel gone amuck," White House counselor Kellyanne Conway told reporters at the White House on Friday ahead of the pardon.
In a tweet, Cheney's daughter, Liz, currently serving as a US representative from Wyoming, said Libby is "a good, honorable and innocent man who was the victim of prosecutorial misconduct and a miscarriage of justice."
In pardoning a former White House aide, Trump could be signaling to his own associates that they will be protected if they decline to participate with government investigators. Neither the White House nor Trump himself have ruled out pardons for campaign aides indicted in the Russia investigation, though have insisted that no pardons are currently being considered.
Trump has spent the past week enraged at the special counsel and the ever-growing web of associates who have become entangled in the investigation. His anger was reinforced by excerpts from Comey's book, which paint the President as unethical.
Speaking to Wolf Blitzer in 2007, Trump bemoaned Libby's predicament.
"I think he probably took a bullet for the administration, but so far the administration hasn't been so loyal to him," Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "I think he probably will, because otherwise he's going to see some horrible books written by Scooter Libby."
Trump used his pardon authority last year when he pardoned Joe Arpaio, a controversial sheriff in Arizona who had been convicted of criminal contempt related to his hard-line tactics going after undocumented immigrants.
In the first pardon, Trump did not follow his predecessors' practice of consulting with lawyers at the Justice Department before announcing his decision.
Justice Department spokesman Ian Prior said earlier Friday that there was no current petition seeking a pardon on file with the DOJ's Office of Pardon Attorney. The White House is not required to consult with the office that typically handles most clemency petitions, but the majority of cases operate that way.
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so really tho, whats the general consensus on the ground in syria as far as that chemical attack tho? all the hoteps on IG are convinced its fake.
my tinfoil hat is on the dresser so whats good? what happened.
my tinfoil hat is on the dresser so whats good? what happened.
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This is embarassing.
MalcolmNewton
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It's on of those situations you will have to do your own research and come to your own conclusion. You can't trust U.S media (liberal or conservative) and you can't trust Syrian government or Russian media. Find an independent one with no stakes in the game and see what their investigation has turned up.
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I don't even know what the country has accomplished or what the accomplishment is, but Daddy Drumpf did a great job of pursuing what's needed to be accomplished 
#Thoughts&Prayers #NoCollusion
Da Scooter pardon such a petty move, he just wanted to get back at Comey
#Thoughts&Prayers #NoCollusionDa Scooter pardon such a petty move, he just wanted to get back at Comey
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I don't even know what the country has accomplished or what the accomplishment is, but Daddy Drumpf did a great job of pursuing what's needed to be accomplished
Da Scooter pardon such a petty move, he just wanted to get back at Comey
Well SAID. If more LIBS were like Scooter, we wouldn't have had the problems Obummer created.
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Libby back in da streetz, so is arpaeo, al we need is yung nugent n ben barson and da a team prezzo trumpito back on da block we’ll have these streetz on lock once again b #coalgangornogang #blacklungtillwedie #80percentxport word to da tax cuts b
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yup, and Assad knows what he can and cannot get away with.
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I strongly disagree. I'd make a distinction between the US military industrial complex and the troops. It's not the troops that are strongly pro-war and seek to profit off defense spending.
EddieDoyers
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Alex Jones melting down last night is must see TV
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You can be against our stance as a country on how we direct our military. I cannot support talking bs about our troops. Example, agent orange has wreaked havoc on many that I know. Folks dying from the same type of cancer.
https://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/agentorange/conditions/
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You guys are right, I clarified what I meant
This man legit admits he knowingly hurt the custody case for his kids to keep supporting Trump. Famb is in shambles......
#BrokenAndHumiliated
Wish I could rep this a thousand times
If only there were signs that Donald Trump was, and would continue to be, a giant piece of ****.
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