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So first we allow states to make it progressively harder for women to obtain a legal, safe abortion



Now he wants to punish desperate women and girls that are forced underground, by probably fining them, or hitting them with a criminal charge :{

But hey, I guess we shouldn't worry about social issues rights :rolleyes
 
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^ A cheater, liar, and a guy that has probably directly/indirectly broken every Commandment in the Bible quoting verses to a Christian University and got applause? :lol Oh man this is too entertaining! I love election season!
 
I had never heard of John Oliver before the whole Drumpf thing but this show is great 
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The actual answer is stop believing everything the Politicians, media and every opinion article are saying. Every promise, and every word that comes of these politician's mouth are not genuine or true. It's all a calculated strategy to invoke an emotional response to get you to vote a certain way.
 
U know politcs is a blood sport right?
Do you ever respond with an actual answer to a question?

Are u aware da premise of your question is ridiculous? I already answered what i thought

About Trump's latest engagement w/ Chris.

Da Donald just made a political calculation and we gone see if this dice roll more of da same teflon teump effect or is it gonna b something he has to worry about.
 
The actual answer is stop believing everything the Politicians, media and every opinion article are saying. Every promise, and every word that comes of these politician's mouth are not genuine or true. It's all a calculated strategy to invoke an emotional response to get you to vote a certain way.

Bingo.
 
The actual answer is stop believing everything the Politicians, media and every opinion article are saying. Every promise, and every word that comes of these politician's mouth are not genuine or true. It's all a calculated strategy to invoke an emotional response to get you to vote a certain way.

It is not about believing everything a politician says.

"Make America Great Again" is an abstract claim, meant to illicit and emotion reaction to get votes. It is subjective, and could differ from person to person how Drumpf can pull this off.

Saying that women that get illegal abortions should get punished is a concrete claim, one that could be achieved, maybe not explicitly federally, but give red states a angle to be able to impose laws that punish these women. Claims like these should be taken dead serious, and brushed of as "You'll know Drumpf is just trying to rustle"
 
So in Texas.. if a female gets an abortion then they will be sent to jail or fined? :rolleyes Come on now... use some common sense. Just for you to state "dead serious' shows that Trump has mastered this political game. Look at all the articles already spinning this. All this media frenzy is giving him free press and makes him a viable option for those Evangelicals.

Then a few hours later... Trump posted a statement to clarify after the fact.

"the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb."


:lol Trump is using the media as his tool and working to perfection.
 
So in Texas.. if a female gets an abortion then they will be sent to jail or fined? :rolleyes Come on now... use some common sense. Just for you to state "dead serious' shows that Trump has mastered this political game. Look at all the articles already spinning this. All this media frenzy is giving him free press and makes him a viable option for those Evangelicals.

Then a few hours later... Trump posted a statement to clarify after the fact.

"the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman would be held legally responsible, not the woman. The woman is a victim in this case as is the life in her womb."


:lol Trump is using the media as his tool and working to perfection.

-Huh? What are you even saying

I said the statement should be taken as dead serious, not dismissed as a non story. Force the candidate to back off the point, or double down. So you know where they stand on an important issue.

Like I said, it is not about getting rustled at a everything, but holding candidates accountable for their worlds.

-And really? You wanna act like politicians, especially politicians never follow through on any of their campaign promises and cause damage.

I suggest you go look at Kansas and Louisiana's economy before trying to preach that steez

The worst talking point this election from the left, and right, and middle, and even me at one point is how much we shouldn't take anything Drumpf as seriously.
 
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What I am saying is Trump is nothing more than an entertainer using the 'shock jock' strategy of exaggerating or stating offensive statements to garner attention. The more attention... the more hate or adulation he gets. Trump doesn't even need PACS or attack ads because the media is providing it for free 24/7
 
Everything that comes out of a presidential candidate's mouth should be taken dead serious (edit: in the sense of not glossing over it like this type of rhetoric doesn't have a hazardous influence on many people). Whether Trump truly wants to enact the things he says is irrelevant.

A US president or presidential candidate holds a lot of influence so when they spread cancerous rhetoric like this it is detrimental to society.

This isn't your average biblethumper yelling "murderer!!!" infront of an abortion clinic, it's a presidential candidate with the power to influence hundreds of thousands or even millions of people.
 
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Why don't white supremacists support Cruz over Trump?

For a white supremacist, picking between Cruz and Trump is like asking a regular person "milk chocolate or dark chocolate?"

Do white supremacist prefer the smooth, creamy, dog whistle bigotry of Ted Cruz

Or do they like the intense, slightly bitter bigotry that the Drumpf bar provides

It is comes down to personal white supremacist preference
 
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It's so clear that Drumpf is making it up as he goes. He reminds me of myself at a presentation when I'm completely unprepared.

Which is all fine and good. He entered this race for **** and giggles. He's probably just as baffled and laughing just as hard as we are that there are idiots out there who believe he knows what he's doing.
 
The point is Trump is an actor, entertainer and knows to be in the spot light. Trump needs to provide some new or fresh controversy each and every single day for the media to go crazy over. After a few days, if Trump is fading from the daily news, he will state the next dumb statement like today.
 
Dead serious in the sense of not glossing over it like such rhetoric doesn't have a hazardous influence on society. I don't think it was that hard to grasp what I meant in that context.

Does Trump truly want to ban all muslims from entering the US or is he just pandering to voters? I don't know, it does not matter. What matters in that case is he is spreading dangerous rhetoric that is leading to an increase in islamophobia and hatred towards middle eastern ethnicities.
 
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