***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[ninjahood]

http://www.investors.com/news/clinton-foundation-said-to-be-breached-by-russian-hackers/

Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation was among the organizations breached by suspected Russian hackers in a dragnet of the U.S. political apparatus ahead of the November election, according to three people familiar with the matter.

The attacks on the foundation's network, as well as those of the Democratic Party and Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, compound concerns about her digital security even as the FBI continues to investigate her use of a personal email server while she was secretary of state.

 

[green rhino123]

 

[laxitive]

some of these nt on here would really vote hillary after this type of exposure too smh

 

[ninjahood]

Nearly Half of Sanders Supporters Won't Support Clinton
The Vermont senator says he'll work to defeat Trump, but has yet to endorse the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

A June 14th Bloomberg Politics national poll of likely voters in November’s election found that barely half of those who favored Sanders — 55 percent — plan to vote for Clinton. Instead, 22 percent say they’ll vote for Trump, while 18 percent favor Libertarian Gary Johnson. “I’m a registered Democrat, but I cannot bring myself to vote for another establishment politician like Hillary,” says Laura Armes, a 43-year-old homemaker from Beeville, Texas, who participated in the Bloomberg poll and plans to vote for Trump. “I don’t agree with a lot of what Trump says. But he won’t owe anybody. What you see is what you get.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...f-of-sanders-supporters-won-t-support-clinton

 

[blco02]

CNN, MSNBC Barely Mention Corruption Conviction of Democratic Rep.

"On Tuesday, CNN and MSNBC minimized their coverage of a Pennsylvania jury convicting Democratic Congressman Chaka Fattah on 23 federal charges related to a scheme to repay campaign debt from an aborted 2007 bid to become mayor of Philadelphia."

Fattah is a superdelegate for Hillary, a detail never mentioned.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mat...-mention-corruption-conviction-democratic-rep

 

[sundoobie]

Add one more Neo-Conservative from Bush's inner circle to Clinton! Brent Scowcroft

"Secretary Clinton shares my belief that America must remain the world’s indispensable leader," Scowcroft said in a statement, touting her experience as secretary of state. "She understands that our leadership and engagement beyond our borders makes the world, and therefore the United States, more secure and prosperous. She appreciates that it is essential to maintain our strong military advantage, but that force must only be used as a last resort."

I am predicting GW Bush will endorse Hillary in the upcoming months!

How in the world is Trump even going to make this competitive when he can't even get life long Republicans on his corner? Sad!

 

[Master Zik]

@ "Sad!"

If anything, dude has catapulted his brand in to the stratosphere.

 

[wubalubadubdub]

Lol at the democrats grandstanding with a sit in over guns. Nothing like an election year.

 

[blco02]

Lol at the democrats grandstanding with a sit in over guns. Nothing like an election year.

 

[Master Zik]

Lol at the democrats grandstanding with a sit in over guns. Nothing like an election year.

So it's a trap the Republicans are falling for?

 

[wubalubadubdub]

Welp... world just got more interesting. Hope nobody planned on cashing out a 401k today.

 

[rexanglorum]

Welp... world just got more interesting. Hope nobody planned on cashing out a 401k today.

I love the avatar. And, yes, the exit will be an interesting story to watch. My first impression is that folks are getting fed up with neoliberalism and a vote against Europe is a protest vote from parts of the British left and the British right.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Welp... world just got more interesting. Hope nobody planned on cashing out a 401k today.

I love the avatar. And, yes, the exit will be an interesting story to watch. My first impression is that folks are getting fed up with neoliberalism and a vote against Europe is a protest vote from parts of the British left and the British right.

Really? That's your first impression. Not that the UKIP manged to scare enough Brits about foreign brown people.

I mean look at **** like this:

It is funny to me that the only form on nationalism that is allowed to be practiced in the western world is white nationalism. And I'm ecstatic that there are enough liberal around that are willing to indulge in this way of thinking.

 

[rexanglorum]

The UKIP is racist and I disagree with them but I am tired of neoliberals holding diversity and inclusiveness hostage and using it as a shield. Let's be honest, cosmopolitan centrists in Europe do not have any particular affection for non whites anyway, these rich people only like immigrants because they bring cheap labor and great restaurants to their communities. Capital loves to have labor that is powerless, that speaks different languages and that is unable to organize.

At the same time, I am tired off all of these white "populists" who are unwilling or unable to critique the neoliberalism that has ruined their economic lives. They cannot say that they got a raw deal economically and they blame and bash people of color and immigrants and people of different religions and that is disgraceful. I don't want social democracy mixed up with bigots and far too often that has been the case.

 

[RustyShackleford]

The UKIP is racist and I disagree with them but I am tired of neoliberals holding diversity and inclusiveness hostage and using it as a shield. Let's be honest, cosmopolitan centrists in Europe do not have any particular affection for non whites anyway, these rich people only like immigrants because they bring cheap labor and great restaurants to their communities. Capital loves to have labor that is powerless, that speaks different languages and that is unable to organize.

At the same time, I am tired off all of these white "populists" who are unwilling or unable to critique the neoliberalism that has ruined their economic lives. They cannot say that they got a raw deal economically and they blame and bash people of color and immigrants and people of different religions and that is disgraceful. I don't want social democracy mixed up with bigots and far too often that has been the case.

But famb, lets be honest, that is exactly what happen in this case too.

 

[rexanglorum]

But famb, lets be honest, that is exactly what happen in this case too.

The socialists voted for totally different reasons than the UKIP folks. I am just sick and tired of these neoliberal crocodile tears all around the World. The EU elite is all about serving the bankers and they would exile migrants the instant it would serve their own narrow economic interests. Let's not pretend that Europe is some great friend of the Global South.

Now, with that said, British socialists were foolish to leave at this time. They have a Tory government and with the EU out of the picture, their politics will shift further to the right. I, personally, would have voted for remain if I were British.

 

[RustyShackleford]

But famb, lets be honest, that is exactly what happen in this case too.

The socialists voted for totally different reasons than the UKIP folks. I am just sick and tired of these neoliberal crocodile tears all around the World. The EU elite is all about serving the bankers and they would exile migrants the instant it would serve their own narrow economic interests. Let's not pretend that Europe is some great friend of the Global South.

Now, with that said, British socialists were foolish to leave at this time. They have a Tory government and with the EU out of the picture, their politics will shift further to the right. I, personally, would have voted for remain if I were British.

Who is pretending that is true? Me?

And are you forgetting, when it comes to the furthering of white supremacy and white nationalism, real tears are often shed by people of color. If social democrats want the burden of defending minorities off their back, they should go ahead an acknowledge that, and pay the political consequences for that. Because relying on minorities votes to get elected, then turning a blind eye and forming an alliance with the racist right, makes them no better than the neoliberals they hate so much.

If socialist, social democrats, and progressives want to ride a right wing wave to what they believe is better policy, then fine.

But they don't get to be heroes and innocent at the same time.

This leave vote was carried to victory by an undercurrent of white nationalism. The fact that some progressives can't just openly admit that, or want to claim their hands are clean in the matter, is the reason why neoliberals and more moderates can finesse the black and brown vote so easily.

Because even if the jobs come flowing back, they definitely aren't coming to black and brown neighborhoods first. I find it hard to believe that if conservatives are able to reap some rewards from this, and actually decide to share the new prosperity with the people, that Brixton is getting a jobs program.

So all some of these people that have can't get economic or social justice have to hope for is acknowledgement. Something the social democrats seem unwilling to give at certain points, well unless it is to shame the bigoted right or people of how other liberals have failed them.

And that how you're gonna keep getting bigotry mixed into your social democracy, and make it unappealing to minority voters come primary time.

The stench of white supremacy and white nationalism is thick, and hard to wash off. British socialist just rolled around in the hay with it tonight. So I hope they have some of that "I voted for it for other reasons" cologne to mask the stench, for the next time they want to come around people that originated from the Global South.

You might want to see bigotry mixed in with social democracy, but I have zero tolerance for it.

 

[rolaholic]

So Trump's disgraced former campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, is joining CNN as a pundit for their election coverage because we'll...CNN :x :x

 

[rillo561]

Wow they really did hire that guy

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Unpopular opinion;


I think Republicans / Conservatives are about 70% right on gun control.

 

[ninjahood]

Welp... world just got more interesting. Hope nobody planned on cashing out a 401k today.

I love the avatar. And, yes, the exit will be an interesting story to watch. My first impression is that folks are getting fed up with neoliberalism and a vote against Europe is a protest vote from parts of the British left and the British right.

Really? That's your first impression. Not that the UKIP manged to scare enough Brits about foreign brown people.

I mean look at **** like this:

It is funny to me that the only form on nationalism that is allowed to be practiced in the western world is white nationalism.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Really, Beyonce, that's your counter example.

Putting aside how ridiculous that example is, to compare pop music performance to a national political movement, maybe you should go look up the blow back she caught.

It astonishes me how you keep making your self look silly with these kinda of post.

 

[ninjahood]

Really, Beyonce, that's your counter example.

Putting aside how ridiculous that example is, to compare pop music performance to a national political movement, maybe you should go look up the blow back she caught.

It astonishes me how you keep making your self look silly with these kinda of post.

aka u got but hurt cuz u said a general statement & was dead wrong...next time chill w/ da hyperbole.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Really, Beyonce, that's your counter example.

Putting aside how ridiculous that example is, to compare pop music performance to a national political movement, maybe you should go look up the blow back she caught.

It astonishes me how you keep making your self look silly with these kinda of post.

aka u got but hurt cuz u said a general statement & was dead wrong...next time chill w/ da hyperbole.

No one except your boy Blco is gonna read that exchange and think your checked me.

Maybe because I have done it to you so many times, you want payback, but your example is still ridiculous on many levels.

Anyway, after having an intelligent back and forth with Rex, I'm not interested in entertaining your nonsense.

 

[cashbanks]