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That is not a designated ballot drop box though.

It looks like a generic USPS drop box. Which of course takes ballots, but are not the specific ones states and counties set up.

You made a couple post about these drop boxes. Just come out and say what your issue is with them.
 
Again with the name-calling...

And why won't you answer which party is the only one that engages in voter suppression?
Again, not name calling. Just pointing out the obvious.

And secondly, you are clearly trolling with the ****. Numerous I have pointed out that only the GOP engages in voter suppression. For years I have done this. I have done in exchanges with you. So have numerous other posters.

Hell yesterday you tried to pull the same nonsense, and I posted this....
I am not gonna entertain you buffoonery, you know damn well which party.. Always tryna act ignorant when faced with inconvenient facts

It is the GOP. Hell if you watched the video, you would know it was calling out GOP voter suppression efforts.

It is the GOP
and conservatives that are currently suing to have the rest of the Voting Right Act struck down.

And you are doing to support their racist efforts at the ballot.

So please explain to me how I was refusing to answer. When I answered this question dozens of times, and even yesterday. Huh Delk?

You just want to play dumb to hide your support for white supremacy and voter suppression.
 
Again, not name calling. Just pointing out the obvious.

And secondly, you are clearly trolling with the ****. Numerous I have pointed out that only the GOP engages in voter suppression. For years I have done this. I have done in exchanges with you. So have numerous other posters.

Hell yesterday you tried to pull the same nonsense, and I posted this....


So please explain to me how I was refusing to answer. When I answered this question dozens of times, and even yesterday.

As I have made clear I don't support voter suppression, period. No matter who is doing it.

I am not sure if I missed your post but here are some recent articles that point to the Democratic party engaging in voter suppression.

Democrats need to fix their own voter suppression problem

How Democrats Suppress The Vote

I used fivethirtyeight and CNN since you often cite them as sources.

Make no mistake, Dems engaging in these practices do not justify the vile practice being done by the GOP. And vice versa.
 
imo, people who try to be "originalists" are so full of ****. this notion that we should interpret the constitution as people who were slavers and didn't have google is absurd. on top of that, it's a cop out to theorize what someone "would have said" knowing they can't refute it. just gives these originalists a chance to do what they want with no real challenge. total BS.
Interpreting the Constitution through the lens of white male landowners is such an absurd theory of Constitutional interpretation. The Federalist and everyone else who adopts that way of thinking are completely full of ****. Like you said, they also had no idea what society would look like 300 years later and I quite frankly could give a **** less about how they "would have interpreted it", as I would've been an enslaved person under their interpretation.
 
dwalk31 dwalk31 doesn't respond to the GOP's voter suppression with outrage. He instead tries to dismiss it. Clearly it's not that big of an issue to him.

I have never tried to dismiss it. I have consistently stated that I am against voter suppression--period.
 
Like you said, they also had no idea what society would look like 300 years later and I quite frankly could give a **** less about how they "would have interpreted it", as I would've been an enslaved person under their interpretation.

One hundred
 
I have never tried to dismiss it. I have consistently stated that I am against voter suppression--period.
You dismiss it every time. Your reactions to the GOP's efforts to suppress votes in this upcoming election have been downplay the effects and deflect by creating a false equivalency.

You apparently care so much about voter suppression that you're defending and supporting the people who can't win without it. Your statements do not match your actions.
 
You dismiss it every time. Your reactions to the GOP's efforts to suppress votes in this upcoming election have been downplay the effects and deflect by creating a false equivalency.

You apparently care so much about voter suppression that you're defending and supporting the people who can't win without it. Your statements do not match your actions.

So you can be against voter suppression but vote for Democrats that engage in it?

But you can’t be against voter suppression and vote for Republicans who engage in it?
 
[P]osting articles about primaries and off-cycle elections from 2016 and 2018 in a conversation when pressed about how Dems are suppressing the vote of Republican voters in THIS election cycle. :rofl:

It was stated that only one party engages in voter suppression and gerrymandering. That is demonstrably false.

And I am against voter suppression, no matter who is doing it.
 
So you can be against voter suppression but vote for Democrats that engage in it?

But you can’t be against voter suppression and vote for Republicans who engage in it?
You allegedly care so much about voter suppression that you're trying to reduce it to a binary issue? Is that really your position here?
 
You allegedly care so much about voter suppression that you're trying to reduce it to a binary issue? Is that really your position here?

No. That is not my position. My position is clear, and it hasn’t changed. I am against voter suppression—period. No matter who is doing it.
 
As I have made clear I don't support voter suppression, period. No matter who is doing it.

I am not sure if I missed your post but here are some recent articles that point to the Democratic party engaging in voter suppression.

Democrats need to fix their own voter suppression problem

How Democrats Suppress The Vote

I used fivethirtyeight and CNN since you often cite them as sources.

Make no mistake, Dems engaging in these practices do not justify the vile practice being done by the GOP. And vice versa.
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One of your examples is horrible, the other struggle.

-First, the CNN article is written by Bernie's campaign manager. It is not an editorial; it is an opinion piece. He is pissed because different states have different rules for primaries. He is pissed that states like New York have more restrictive voter registration rules than other states (most of the states in the Dem primary are open btw). And specifically, he is pissed New York doesn't have an open primary to allow independents to vote. He is complaining that why won't Dems in places like New York be more like......checks notes.....Dems in other parts of the country. You realize that, right?

The is a massive difference from saying a Democratic primary should be for registered Democrats and trying to make sure eligible voters ballots are rejected in a general election. Different states have different rules on how they run their primary. Making your stat

New York's registration rules are not a targeted effort to suppress votes. No political scientists or voter's right groups classify it as such. It should be changed, but you are making apples to oranges comparison here.

Furthermore, since that primary, when NY Dems got rid of those independents that were blocking their agenda, they have passed policy to expand voter participation, like automatic registration.

In fact, the DNC pushed for many reforms to increase turnout in primaries. Most notably, getting rid of caucuses, which Weaver was against because it hurt Bernie. The entire CNN article is a bad-faith attack against the Dems.

-Second, I must give you kudos for this effort. I am shocked because this comes close to be a cogent argument. However, your only bit of evidence is that Dems from the back of union allow off-year elections that inconvenience voters. This is their only crime of voter suppression? While I agree elections should be consolidated, this is not a coordinated effort to turn a specific number of voters. But I would give you more credit for this if the article was not from 2015. And it analyzed votes from the 2010s. Because in a post Selby v. Holder world, the Dems push for voter rights has included supported consolidation. Including Cali...



So Dems: Want automatic registration, more polling places, info packets sent to voters, more access to mail-in voting, and drop-offs (which increase turnout across the board). Support voting rights activist for access to the ballot. Is against gerrymandering, wants to make election day a federal holiday. And tons of other pro-voter legislation. But in the 2010s, they supported a policy that leads to around 3-5% lower turnout for already low turnout elections. But there is no consensus in the party on this consolidation issue now.

But the GOP wants to suppress the voter, rig the system in their favor for them to get minority rule, the make everyone vote in these more crooked elections, and there is consensus on these efforts.

But again, nice try on this one.

C'mon Delk, besides being a sellout, this both sides nonsense is not gonna fly.
 
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Delk posting articles about primaries and off-cycle elections from 2016 and 2018 in a conversation when pressed about how Dems are suppressing the vote of Republican voters in THIS election cycle. :rofl:
I could tell he did a quick Google to save himself.

When you type "Democratic party voter suppression" both articles appear on the first page.

Pathetic
 
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