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Y’all see Biden’s Thanksgiving speech? It was great
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Natural selection is coming.
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I can only hope the Republican justices catch the Rona.
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You see Kamalas cornbread dressing with apples?
When people get angry at the justice system for not punishing cops for killing an innocent man, or for incarcerating someone for an absurd amount of time for something minimal, the reaction is that the justice system works well and that we shouldn't question how it functions.
But if the legal system works how it's supposed to, why does presidential pardon exist
Justice for Rodney Reed - Innocence Project
On April 19, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Rodney Reed’s challenge to Texas’ post-conviction DNA testing statute was filed on time.
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He’s a snowflake..... whose probably scared of snow if Fox News told him to be
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Here we go....our supreme court now acting like Religion is bigger then law
I can't put into words how much i hate this and how angry this makes me...especially knowing its a life time job
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I said it after Sandy Hook.
It's GG, they won, it's over. If a bunch of little school children dying didn't produce gun control measures, nothing ever will,
so continuing to ring your hands about it is pretty pointless.
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I wonder if Osh is gonna tell victims of gun violence they need to shut up about it too, because they have to be most concerned about the Dems chances of winning. 
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the great lib awakening is underway. buying firearms by the hundreds of thousands 
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I wonder if Osh is gonna tell victims of gun violence they need to shut up about it too, because they have to be most concerned about the Dems chances of winning.
I mean do what ever you want but it's def over.
and i've said this before, but conservatives are low key correct when they say; "ur comming to take mah guuuns"
given the amount of guns floating around in American, any truly impactful gun control measure would necessarily have to involve mass confiscation. and given the rural skew of the senate, and the electorate, it's effectively impossible. it will never happen.
hate to be the bearer of bad news.
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My brother is into guns,
the level of work it took for him to get one in Canada was pretty crazy.
but you can do that in country that has no major cultural affinity to guns.
the level of work it took for him to get one in Canada was pretty crazy.
but you can do that in country that has no major cultural affinity to guns.
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-The Democratic Party is not pushing gun confiscation, or mandatory buybacks, they are not even pushing widespread gun licensing. Only a few progressive advocates for licensing, Beto after his town got shot up was the only one calling for mandatory buybacks. Most of the gun control measures liberals and the Dems push for are a weak sauce compromise. There is an implied slippery slope argument that if we get some gun control (many of which polls well), it will mean confiscation is next. Or a massive strawman that Dems are advocating for gun confiscation. Those are right-wing fear-mongering presented as facts.
- Guns are prevalent in our culture, and so are mass shootings. When one happens, it is blasted all over the news for days, and the victims and victim's families routinely go to the news, and people march for even the most basic of gun control. If the Dems were to be like "it is over, we can't do anything, we never will even try", then that risk other voters concluded the Dems are not interested in being responsive to voters. It is not as simple of a political calculation as people think. I mean if everything counts on the margin, I wonder why people never into consideration how the Dems could turn off some of their voters.
-Right-wing gun advocates also don't want the ATF to be well funded to stop the flow of illegal guns, or the CDC to study gun violence. I guess the Dems should give up on that too.
There are policies being blocked by gun nuts, that have nothing to do with rural gun owners being able to own guns. Most of the Dem base accepts the half measures they proposing, the compromise. Yet the issue yet the discussion need always take place in the right-wing framing of the issue.
But this is a sport to you, so yeah, whatever.
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I see you are really into gunsthe great lib awakening is underway. buying firearms by the hundreds of thousands
If you don't want people to think you are a libertarian, I'm sure this will help
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Americans have bought record 17m guns in year of unrest, analysis finds
Sales surged in the spring amid coronavirus fears and climbed higher during protests for racial justice
20M this year EZ.
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You should get this tatted on your arm to let everyone know you are a true patriot...Americans have bought record 17m guns in year of unrest, analysis finds
Sales surged in the spring amid coronavirus fears and climbed higher during protests for racial justicewww.google.com
20M this year EZ.
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I have some excellent news fellas. Big Mama agreed to the virtual Thanksgiving. She will circulate the zoom dial in shortly. Uncle Zelle is borrowing the group computer at the halfway house and promised to be on his best behavior. Big Mama said NO POLITICAL talk on da zoom or you will be muted. Going to have a post dinner meet up in Nevada for the
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scrap. Have 0 expectations for a decent fight but we will see.
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scrap. Have 0 expectations for a decent fight but we will see.
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1. I didn't make any prescriptions about what the dems should do. I dunno what you should do, pretty tough situation.
me personally tho, id give up on it.
2. i don't think there are very many dem voters where gun control is their top issue.
so I think there is little electoral cost to abandoning the issue.
and even if they are, the older whiter skew of the electorate makes them less important. it's unfortunate.
3. They are weak sauce because any substantive measures would be unpopular.
and I do not think it's unreasonable for a gun enthusiast to believe these symbolic measures aren't a prelude to a death by a thousand cuts incrementalism.
call that slippery slope if you want. but If I loved guns it seems like a reasonable argument.
4. The "gun nuts" care the most and live in places where their votes are more powerful.
so to me you are drawing dead on this issue.
progressives care a little bit, but they are mostly in big cities, and they don't care enough to not vote for democrats over it.
if dems wanna do it for moral reason, or out of conviction they should go ahead and keep on the fight.
that's certainly reasonable and their right. sometimes you gotta fight losing battles for whats right.
me?
I would not. I think Bernie pre 2016 had the right formulation.
be chill about the guns, and talk about other stuff.
