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vox had an article on this I think.

suggesting moving government agencies to swing states and starting more universities and research parks?

that might do the trick?
I think know what article you are talking about, and from what I remember I didn't like their proposal.

Because it hinged on destroying the large black middle class in the DMV area, and to help midwestern whites.

The government can spend to help prop up midwestern cities (like financing research hubs, and satellite offices). But I am generally opposed to any policy, including moving the entire bureaucratic state to the midwest because of who will be disproportionately hurt by it. Which are black people.
 
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I think know what article you are talking about, and from what I remember I didn't like their proposal.

Because it hinged on destroying the large black middle class in the DMV area, and to help midwestern whites.

The government can spend to help prop up midwestern cities (like financing research hubs, and satellite offices). But I am generally opposed to moving the entire bureaucratic state to the midwest because of who will be disproportionately hurt by it.

i guess the devils advocate's case would be;

Washington DC's status as an in demand city, it can and will attract more than enough private sector business to make up for the loss of government agencies.

but id be wary... so many people in my family work for the government in american and canada and the consensus is there's way more discrimination in the private sector.
 
A better idea I like is that the US government (when it is controlled by Dems) should pour 100s of billions more into R&D and focus the spending on strategically helping Metro areas and college towns across America.

And use the massive procurement budget to help truly small businesses across America.

Also, the US government is too small. Look at how understaffed the USPS and IRS are as an example.

They can create tens of thousands of great, good, and decent-paying jobs all across America. Without crashing the DC metro area's economy.
 
A better idea I like is that the US government (when it is controlled by Dems) should pour 100s of billions more into R&D and focus the spending on strategically helping Metro areas and college towns across America.

And use the massive procurement budget to help truly small businesses across America.

Also, the US government is too small. Look at how understaffed the USPS and IRS are as an example.

They can create tens of thousands of great, good, and decent-paying jobs all across America. Without crashing the DC metro area's economy.

Just given the dynamics of being in an in demand city with scarce real estate like DC, NYC, Toronto, Seattle, San Fran ect

I think there is zero percent chance that it would "crash" dc's economy by moving some government agencies out...


but i do agree that black people would likely be worse off in the aggregate just do to the higher levels of discriminations in hiring and career advancement in the private sector.
 
i guess the devils advocate's case would be;

Washington DC's status as an in demand city, it can and will attract more than enough private sector business to make up for the loss of government agencies.

but id be wary... so many people in my family work for the government in american and canada and the consensus is there's way more discrimination in the private sector.
Yeah, there is much more discrimination in the private sector. From the labor research, I have done the public sector is much better at diversity hiring than the private sector. Not only for race but other stuff like people with disabilities.

But nah, if DC loses the federal government the whole area will be ******. There is so much private sector money in the area because of government contracts. And contractors contract other businesses. The network effects are pretty big in the area. You take out the government money the area is in trouble. Plus you have so many college-educated people that will now be incentivized to leave.

Trust me, I am all for the federal government spreading the love around. But I think people generally forget that the federal government doesn't spend nearly enough as they should on supporting the bureaucratic state.
 
plus you could always target black metro areas with declining populations. seems to me places like Cleveland or Detroit could def benefit. and that way it's not just a wealth transfer to white people.
 
As a hardcore republican living in Georgia I would like to say that I am boycotting the run offs. The republicans aren’t fighting hard enough for the alt right. One way they will is if they lose this election and the silent majority has to let them know that if we boycott the vote they will lose everytime. Maybe in 2022 they will do more for the white man.

Also the dems rigging it anyways. I ain’t taking a day off mining coal for that.
 
plus you could always target black metro areas with declining populations. seems to me places like Cleveland or Detroit could def benefit. and that way it's not just a wealth transfer to white people.
You might be able to stop the wealth transfer for people doing service jobs, and other supporting services.

But given the number of black college grads the area produces, I don't think you can stop the black to white wealth transfer among college grads.

Like Howard's viability might be in danger, and if the Dems were to do this, I can legit see Virginia becoming a red state.

Maybe I am biased because I lived in the area, I dunno. But even the idea that black people have to take the biggest hit in this just doesn't sit right with me. Even if someone makes the argument, well other black people will benefit too, that doesn't make up for it. Like why must one set of black fol take the hit just for another set to get a benefit? Why should there be this zero-sum game with black prosperity when there is an alternative that can be beneficial to both.

IMO, The Federal government should first pursue spending extra, above what they do now, so folk around the country and enjoy some of the benefits people in the DC Metro area enjoy. There are so many new/extra jobs the government can create. And I am perfectly fine with those going to other parts of the country mostly.
 
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As a hardcore republican living in Georgia I would like to say that I am boycotting the run offs. The republicans aren’t fighting hard enough for the alt right. One way they will is if they lose this election and the silent majority has to let them know that if we boycott the vote they will lose everytime. Maybe in 2022 they will do more for the white man.

Also the dems rigging it anyways. I ain’t taking a day off mining coal for that.
The GOP is going to lose for years to come until they recognize that going for the moderate voter is not a winning strategy. You need to fire up the base. If the candidate is not behind Medicare for None or reparations for descendants of slaveowners, they are not doing enough.

I won't go as far as you by boycotting. Instead, I plan to vote for a third party candidate (either Kanye or Nate Robinson, still deciding). That will send a message loud and clear.

We can never let those socialists win. Or even worse, we can't let those moderate Republicans win. Now get back to the mines, comrade.
 
This is funny, but they've been doing stuff like this for years, only problem is most are fed up w/ them throwing false narratives and fallacies all over the place in order to justify their nonsense.
 
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