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This moment is even funnier now. Jay ain't wanna touch that h0e
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Label Politics vs Art
Seems to fall in line as to why Ye left Nike for adidas
^^ stopillphillip . Jay has hung on to another 5-7 years of rapping longevity because of Kanye. No Kanye, and Jay would be Mr. Beyoncé with this generation. It's well documented that 'ye was never interested in Kanye rapping back in those Roc days and that Dame was the only one that believed in a producer spitting in the booth. Jay turns around years later and does album with 'ye off the heels of Kanye's most critically acclaimed album and probably the most highly touted hip hop album of the last 10 years. Bigger than any album Jay put out. You are absolutely right, Jay has ALWAYS been smart with who he works with.
"I told jay I did a song with Coldplay, next thing I know he got a song with Coldplay..."
Also, no doubt in my mind that Kanye is all about the funds. What rapper isn't in this day and age? But he doesn't want his creativity skewed because of it. He acts like he doesn't understand the politics when in reality he just wants his way. Suffering from a classic case of not staying in his lane, which has worked for him thus far truth be told![]()
Y'all really be overrating how much Kanye has "helped keep Jay relevant". I only hear that from people that didn't grow up on Jay. Maybe to the under 22, yeezy wearing, I love everything Kanye does crowd he has but there's waaaayyyy more people that **** with Jay cuz of Jay. Dude is probably the biggest rap legend not named Pac. He doesn't need Kanye's help to stay hot.
you say this like the whole theory of staying hot in rap isn't based on staying relevant to the young fans who didn't grow up on you
Y'all really be overrating how much Kanye has "helped keep Jay relevant". I only hear that from people that didn't grow up on Jay. Maybe to the under 22, yeezy wearing, I love everything Kanye does crowd he has but there's waaaayyyy more people that **** with Jay cuz of Jay. Dude is probably the biggest rap legend not named Pac. He doesn't need Kanye's help to stay hot.
you say this like the whole theory of staying hot in rap isn't based on staying relevant to the young fans who didn't grow up on you
"Some tracks that hit the radio"
5x Platinum and a #1 song off a Platinum album leading into WTT.
MBDTF only went Platinum I believe (I can check Mon.).
Revisionist history at it's finest.
As someone of age, I can say that Jay benefitted from being around before the Internet boom and its effect on music. Jay was the most prolific rapper at a time when rappers were all clones of each other. But I remember when Jay Z was just another mafioso rap clone. His debut album came out and was pushed to the way side for Ironman and even ATLiens.
Jay if nothing else is one of the savviest business men to ever grace the planet. He's managed to ingratiate himself with the right people and leave them right at the perfect time. I've watched this mans career from its inception until now and if you truly believe that Kanye didn't have a massive hand in extending his popularity past his faux retirement than you're not being honest at all.
Jay links up with whoever is hot at the moment...good business move or leech-like...that's up for you to decide