Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

[kal-el-8]

 

Straight up walked out of Rises, have yet to see anything after Bane died...I'm kick myself for staying that long.
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Wild Wild West was bad? Man...Idk. It's all subjective I know, but damnit man. Dudes are to cool, think to hard to enjoi a movie...and thats the thing, they think to hard about the wrong things.

Story
Writing
Dialogue
Cinimeotography
Lighting
Acting


Thats the list...Wild Wild West scores high mark in all those, IMO. But of course, people will think themselves right out of a movie.

I've pulled multiple quality yambs using Hitch, so maybe it's trash cuz y'all have no game and couldn't relate...yeah I said it.

But...ya'll are emotional dudes (will one dimensional emtional dudes) that don't really like comedies. Like, ya'll are the reason comedy gets no respect from the Academy, it has everything else these dramas have, but they make you laugh instead of cry so for whatever reason ya'll equate it with not being as good...I prefer Mel Brooks take on race than I do Steve McQueens. "You kill hitler by making fun of him" -Charlie Chaplin. Also, one of the best movie speeches in history came from a damn comedy, but ya'll have no vision, trapped to an antiquated way of thinking.

 

[Cashflow]

Some people just like to watch the world burn

 

[mronegative]

Will Smith in Django no thanks Jeff. Nothing about him makes me think he can be a killer. Just like Pierce Brosman being James Bond. I don't look at him and say "man he looks like he could kill fifty people" Daniel Craig has that look.

I think Will playing against type would've been more interesting...and there were just moments early on where Jamie didn't exactly connect. Jamie's a strong actor, but Will's natural charisma would've just gotten something more across. It didn't exactly make sense why Django was so special until the second half of the movie. Will Smith sweats special-ness. Once you see him, you know it's an event.

And you could see what Jamie was doing, with the softness of his voice. He was trying to show how internalized the sweet slave was in the face of white people. You don't get no bass in your voice around massa, and I understood that. But with Will...outside of Morgan Freeman, he is the most non-threatening black actor. period. That sweet face is the only face he shows to the public, so suddenly it's the other side. The side that Jame does with ease that's something special to see from Will. You'd literally be watching his public persona evolve into a thinking, self-criticizing assessment of what it means, and maybe why he had to be so non-threatening to get by.

That persona, and that affect...in this role. I mean that's Travolta dancing disco in Pulp Fiction. The things the film had to say about the special negro with a talent that gets a pass, mean more with Will as the lead. It uses the last 20 years of Will being America's favorite black man to say something about what that means, and the divide between giving a special black person a pass, and being decent to black people.

And I don't doubt the performance Quentin could've gotten out of Will, wouldn't be something special.

 

[am1x90xnike]

Comedy >>rama

Movie I enjoyed >>> critically acclaimed movie that I didn't much enjoi

Wild Wild West >>> Seven Pounds

I've never even seen Pursuit of Happiness, I'm good off watching some dude struggle. Cool story, but ti does nothing for me.

 

[CP1708]

Dude went to bat for.......Wild Wild West?!???!!?!!!?

And Pierce Brosnan wasn't worthy of Bond????? What the....?

 

[Kimchi Papi]

Gonna try to watch Saving Private Ryan in honor of the D Day anniversary... Would really like to watch Band Of Brothers but not sure I have the time to do that yet because once I start, I'll have to watch the whole thing... I got too much to do this weekend; put together my son's new bed (ikea), paint the white trim on my house, & some yard work...

 

[antidope]

Dude went to bat for.......Wild Wild West?!???!!?!!!?

And Pierce Brosnan wasn't worthy of Bond????? What the....?

Didn't say that, what I said was he doesn't look like he could kill 50 people. He's got the whole "I'm suave and women want me" part down but that dude doesn't look like he's won a fight in his life which is half of what James Bond does. Kill people. Daniel Craig has that look.


Let's not act like looking the part isn't an aspect of casting and IMO Pierce Brosman does not look like a killer.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

Brosnan's GoldenEye was a solid Bond flick. The rest were just meh, with Die Another Day being really really bad despite Halle looking drop dead gorgeous.

Brosnan's Thomas Crown Affair remake was stellar & he played that to the hilt, Renee Russo too...

 

[CP1708]

James Bond isn't about taking on 50 dudes tho.

You think that Sean Connery looked like he could take down 50? Or Roger Moore?

He's a spy, not a Navy Seal.

Bond CAN get dirty, and handle his business, but it is NOT a prerequisite.

And Daniel Craig is slightly taller than Vern Troyer, so slow down with the he can kill 50 guys with ease.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

Craig is a solid 5'10" that's not Tom Cruise short...

 

[lawdog1]

And Daniel Craig is slightly taller than Vern Troyer, so slow down with the he can kill 50 guys with ease.

 

[af1 1982]

@Antidope , you ever consider a career in professional wrestling? you would make a great heel

 

[am1x90xnike]

Dude went to bat for.......Wild Wild West?!???!!?!!!?

And Pierce Brosnan wasn't worthy of Bond????? What the....?

Come at me.

not the best movie, but I enjoyed it. but like I say, I'm a comedy > drama guy.

 

[lawdog1]

Craig is a solid 5'10" that's not Tom Cruise short...

Ouch...I'm only 5'7".

 

[equality]

Dude in here going off on Will Smith slander 

 

The prince will always be 

 in my books.

Watched Sin City for the first time last night. Man I gotta quit sleepin on movies 

 

[MetalMario]

Wild Wild West was one of the worst movies ever made.

 

[rck3sactown]

that was a hilarious listen

 

[senorroboto2k5]

I think I've mentioned this podcast before but



They talk with Kevin Smith about his brushes with the movie, specifically, where the idea of that dumb ******* mechanical spider came from

Edit:

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

Kevin Smith wrote a treatment for that Nic Cage Superman movie that was being developed. John Peters, the producer of WWW, was involved. One of his notes was he wanted the climax to include something terrifying, amazing, memorable: a giant spider

That movie never got made, so he threw his spider idea into WWW

 

[Cashflow]

Well at least he didn't really lip sync

 

[mronegative]

Wow.

This is...relevant:

 

[am1x90xnike]

Can we pause for a moment and talk about how bad *** Hank from Breaking Bad is. I mean, he's a DEA agent, so I can't like him to much, but I'll be got damned if I don't respect him!

Buggin out, pushing 200llbs of crystal a week, giving free chicken to the DEA...keep em close. This dude is brilliant, got Walt sweating, got pigs confused, him and Saul are my favorite characters so far.

 

[kingkoopa]

Can we pause for a moment and talk about how bad *** Hank from Breaking Bad is. I mean, he's a DEA agent, so I can't like him to much, but I'll be got damned if I don't respect him!

Buggin out, pushing 200llbs of crystal a week, giving free chicken to the DEA...keep em close. This dude is brilliant, got Walt sweating, got pigs confused, him and Saul are my favorite characters so far.

Bruh, did you just mix two characters together on GP

 

[kingkoopa]

Speaking of the GOAT

 

[am1x90xnike]

Bruh, did you just mix two characters together on GP

I've decided I'm not going to learn his name...Bugging Out will be his name. And he is super gangsta.

 

[big j 33]

Wild Wild West was bad? Man...Idk. It's all subjective I know, but damnit man. Dudes are to cool, think to hard to enjoi a movie...and thats the thing, they think to hard about the wrong things.

Story
Writing
Dialogue
Cinimeotography
Lighting
Acting


Thats the list...Wild Wild West scores high mark in all those, IMO. But of course, people will think themselves right out of a movie.

I've pulled multiple quality yambs using Hitch, so maybe it's trash cuz y'all have no game and couldn't relate...yeah I said it.

But...ya'll are emotional dudes (will one dimensional emtional dudes) that don't really like comedies. Like, ya'll are the reason comedy gets no respect from the Academy, it has everything else these dramas have, but they make you laugh instead of cry so for whatever reason ya'll equate it with not being as good...I prefer Mel Brooks take on race than I do Steve McQueens. "You kill hitler by making fun of him" -Charlie Chaplin. Also, one of the best movie speeches in history came from a damn comedy, but ya'll have no vision, trapped to an antiquated way of thinking.

You really need to stop being so condescending. "Ya'll have no vision... trapped in an antiquated way of thinking".. where do you even get this stuff? No one is in here bashing comedies with dozens of people co-signing The fact is there haven't been as many great comedies in recent years, so they won't be discussed as often as dramas. Go back through this thread's history and there's plenty of praise for comedies. You're just making things up to make yourself sound high and mighty. Cool, you can quote Chaplin and reference The Great Dictator ... so can a lot of us

You have your list of things you look for.. that's cool.. but Wild Wild West does some of those things badly or at least they don't do them well enough to praise. The acting was fine.. the lighting? I'll take your word that it was great. But the dialogue, story, and writing were all average to very bad. Just because you have your list of things you look for doesn't make your opinion any more right.. it just means you have a framework of how you judge movies. I'd agree that what you look at is important, but you might generate a better discussion if you stop talking down to everyone in here.. just a thought.