Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

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Careful if you haven't seen it yet.

Loved Justice League. Obviously the in thing to do on the internet these days is tear the film apart, but I don't subscribe to that nonsense.

Clearly the took a safer path, they shortened it, didn't let it get chewed on for being too long (which of course leads to *** clowns now crying it was too short :lol ) They tried to keep the dialogue simple and not dare anything too mockable like the Martha stuff, they tried to explain old complaints about why WW was gone 100 years, etc. So they certainly tried to cater to all the fanboys complaints.

That said, they didn't make it too confusing, they backstoried enough so that people who didn't read the comics could understand what was happening (or had happened already) they gave each character enough of a shine which will obviously develop further in their solo films. (Flash, Aquaman) They did Supes justice, minus I wish he could have been a little angrier and maybe even shown the "comeback" a lil more in depth. ( I bet that will be in the Blu Ray version a lil more)
The humor was good enough, not over the top, certainly not Thor 3, but enough to keep the audiences engaged.

Strangely, as awesome as Batman was in B v S, they toned him down this time. He looked like CT tryin to finish these long challenges huffin and puffin. :lol

Add it all up, it was a fine showing. It wasn't The Dark Knight, but it wasn't Ghost Rider 2 either. I don't see a whole lot of difference between it and the first Avengers film, both hit you in the feels in some parts, both sort of slow burn in others. One small detail I really did love, was the 89 Batman theme quietly playing briefly, as well as the 78 Supes. THAT was a great touch, and they didn't all in your face it. Hell, I wanted more of it. :lol

Gonna watch it several more times before the Blu Ray which will certainly add 15-20 minutes I'm sure.

7/8
 
I feel like you missed the point if you don't get the complaints about a movie being too long and then the next movie being too short.

If the movie is bad it also being long just makes it worse.

Nope. Not even close. Unless you hated Woman Wonder I guess...
Ok. Still haven't seen WW. Just wanted to get a feel of opinions based off comparisons.

I also asked in the DC thread if ppl thought it was better than the GL movie.
 
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The best spoiler post ever C CP1708 and that wasn't even a spoiler. haven't watched it yet but I definitely want to. great Real World reference and with Hulks reveal in Thor it was gonna play like a buddy movie so that eased my thoughts going into it. good call my dude:rofl:
 
I’ve watched a few spy / espionage shows and movies. This was my first time ever hearing the term “eyewash”.
 
I like most of Charlize’s movies. Sweet November is on and I will stop and watch whenever it’s on.
 
Got back from taking my son to see Justice League. I wanted to hate on it but it was a serviceable Saturday afternoon popcorn action flick. >D It was better than the Avengers movies which I detested...

Some hot takes though...
- I really don't like Affleck as Batman... Ben forces his voice to sound different as Bruce Wayne & it sounds so forced. I almost feel like it's an overdub like a Chinese kung fu movie or something.
-The Batman action sequences look terrible. Way too animated especially the intro to Batman in the movie.
- This film will look terribly dated soon. The quality of the action sequences look way too animated. In Nolan's Batman, the action sequences looked real even though FX was used to touch them up. JJ Abrams' FX in Force Awakens looked fantastic. The FX team didn't try to hide the fact they animated everything. Just terrible.
- The Flash's running in the flick looked terrible. It didn't even look like he was running. it looked like he was doing sideways jumping jacks. I liked how they handled the speed ability of Quicksilver in the Xmen movie a short time ago. He was actually running whereas Flash is not.
- Wonder Woman is awesome. Just awesome. If Gal was thicker & had a more mass on the backside, she'd be my celebrity bey. One of the best super hero characters to come to the silver screen ever. Her opening action scene was awesome.
- I like Aqauman too, I just hope his stand along movie is written well. Please oh please do not screw up the movie...
- Joss Whedon should either just direct or just write. Not both. I think he might better served doing so. Outside of co-writing one of the Toy Stories, his filmography is yuck...

Edit - I got Rogue One on & the FX in this looks light years better than JS... I felt like JS was actually an animated movie...
 
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Got damn I love Mo Better Blues.... also top 5 great movie soundtrack for me! Shout out to Branford Marsalis!
 
Anybody ever seen Delicatessen? I never watched it because I thought it was some lame horror flick or something. I was way wrong!!

One of the most imaginative thrillers I've ever seen. Joint was hilarious in parts as well. 7.8/8
 
Roman J. Israel Esq. 6.4/8

Ya boy Denzel is ACTING!

This ain't ya typical Denzel great acting Denzel we all expect. This ain't Fences.

There's subtle quirks and idiosyncrasies that Denzel managed to portray that made his performance so impressive to me.

He played this very blunt direct savant kind of character. I really enjoyed it.

Colin was serviceable in this.
 
Justice League, a solid 3.7/8

I decent improvement on the low floors set by the preceding movies.... but not great.

It's the red gatorade of gatorade flavors
 
Damn son. He said a solid 3.7/8.





Ok so I caught a matinee today for Roman J. Israel Esq. and then caught JL cuz I wasn't gonna pay to see this and don't trust the DCEU or Snyder and didn't trust that Whedon could save this.

All in all though, JL wasn't terrible. Coming off seeing MoS which was pretty bad, BvS which was ****ing trash, and then the extended SS which was awful, then deciding to just skip WW I did not get that same sort of dread watching JL, at least not all of it. So it being fun and my extremely lowered standards did not have me hating this at all.

The movie definitely gets better as it goes on. First 2 acts are meh to average. But it ended pretty strong and gave me some hope.

Take this as a pro or con but this movie really reminded me of Age of Ultron with how certain things played out. Forget the first act but to Supe's resurrection = birth of the Vision, final fight is against the main villain and a swarm of mindless grunts, and the final fight takes place in some Eastern European country. Just really made me notice those comparisons.

Pros:

- Team interactions, everybody getting to shine. Cyborg and WW surprised me the most.

- This is the first time Superman felt like Superman. A hero that resembled the character I really liked in Smallville a bit. Plus while I felt it was forced on Batman's end, I saw the beginnings of the Batman/Superman friendship/relationship on Supes end a bit.

- Action was pretty good. From WW stopping the terrorists to the flashback war where SteppenL had to retreat, to most of the final fight.

- Most of the jokes landed for me. Aquaman sitting on the lasso, Supes carrying the entire apartment, one Batman joke, Flash was like 4 for 12 on jokes.

- I liked SteppenL. Ciaran with the dope voice but he did look like a videogame monster to me but I didn't mind. I just accepted it. His history retelling was direct, took the L on Earth, got exiled, came back 5,000 years later and took another L like a scared *****.

- Cyborg. Wasn't great but wasn't the lame I thought he'd be. Still don't believe inn a Cyborg solo but the actor didn't disappoint me as a relative unknown. His story arc was good and understandable. Snyder's approach to him wasn't bad.

- Batman's a-hole reasoning for bringing Supes back and the "He'll get over it." line. That is Batman when it comes to decisions and situations like that. So spot on.

- Superman beating the **** out of everybody with ease. When son had his eyes on the Flash and just brushed the redt off :pimp:

And forget do you bleed? when he said "You won't let me live, you won't let me die." that hit the feels.

Cons:

- The writing and overall plot. Could've been way better. Lot of the dialogue.

- Aquadudebro. I get it and it was okay at first but then it just became vapid and grating. The Denzel "My man!" line to Cyborg worked but the "Alright!" cut to him when Superman returned on their side was meaningless. Should've been deleted.

- Cyborg's all cgi suit. What specifically pisses me off is they show us him getting his filled out body in the end. Son should've got that after he got the mother box when they brought Supes back to life. He claimed he changed/upgradednevery night so I wanted that look sooner. His all cgi suit look was ugly and parts of him looked frail. Big reason why thought he'd be lame every time I saw him. Probably should've rocked the hoody the whole movie. His look was a bad decision all around.

- Flash. Got annoying after a while. What I really didn't like was how much of a newbie he was and not skilled as a speedster. I watched dude fall down and lose control too many times in the movie. It wss not physical fall down comedy. Just lame. As things stand: FoX-Men Quicksilver >>> CW Flash >> AoU Quicksilver >>>>>>> DCEU Flash.

- The water fights were not impressive to me at all. Amazon's put up more of a fight.

- Cgi was meh. What got to me was the reasoning for some reshoots and the cgi mustache. Sometimes you could clearly see it and it looked off making Cavill look weird and goofy as ****. What was Whedon thinking with that opening scene? Unecessary.

- The process and reasoning behind how Superman would be resurrected. Not real science at all.

- The grave robbing scene. The worst thing in this movie. The reasoning, the scene. All of it. Flash jokes and trying to bond with Cyborg could not save that travesty. Like what makes it so bad is Snyder and whoever wrote that is aware of how macabre it is and still do it. I've read some in here but there were so many better options. Sitting through that just had me like :stoneface:

- Another big con was not having Diane Lane bae look her sexy self. If Aunt May can be sexy then Martha Kent can be too.

Gripes:

- Depowering BatGod Batffleck. Son did not have one dope fight scene the whole flick. My dude was basically the actual regular slow Hawkeye human on the team. I get why to an extent but son could've had one dope scene taking on SteppenL the way he tried to go at "Doomsday" I was so disappoint

- Mentioned it before about it being forced Batman's whole guilt trip with Supes dying and blaming himself. GTFOOH. Not buying it. Did not like.

- Cyborg's defense systems attacks a recently ressurrected Supes. Wasting all that time talking when Flash literally could've grabbed him and ran him to Gotham. Flawed writing.

- Bruce back on his if there's even a 1% chance blah blah blah illogical reasoning. Did it for why he wanted to kill Supes and had the same for why he wanted to bring him back to life. I was thinking if Lois didn't work he's bring the kryptonite spear back out :lol: "big guns".

I probably won't rewatch this in theaters but I look forward to having it on in the background when it airs on HBO next year.

I will say it doesn't deserve such a low RT score. Its at 39%. To me this movie falls in the 55%-65% range.

Justice League 5.8/8
 
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