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Nah, it’ll be #9. He said #10 will be his last.
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Nope. Not even close. Unless you hated Woman Wonder I guess...Better than Wonder Woman?
Ok. Still haven't seen WW. Just wanted to get a feel of opinions based off comparisons.Nope. Not even close. Unless you hated Woman Wonder I guess...
Ok so I caught a matinee today for Roman J. Israel Esq. and then caught JL cuz I wasn't gonna pay to see this and don't trust the DCEU or Snyder and didn't trust that Whedon could save this.
All in all though, JL wasn't terrible. Coming off seeing MoS which was pretty bad, BvS which was ****ing trash, and then the extended SS which was awful, then deciding to just skip WW I did not get that same sort of dread watching JL, at least not all of it. So it being fun and my extremely lowered standards did not have me hating this at all.
The movie definitely gets better as it goes on. First 2 acts are meh to average. But it ended pretty strong and gave me some hope.
Take this as a pro or con but this movie really reminded me of Age of Ultron with how certain things played out. Forget the first act but to Supe's resurrection = birth of the Vision, final fight is against the main villain and a swarm of mindless grunts, and the final fight takes place in some Eastern European country. Just really made me notice those comparisons.
Pros:
- Team interactions, everybody getting to shine. Cyborg and WW surprised me the most.
- This is the first time Superman felt like Superman. A hero that resembled the character I really liked in Smallville a bit. Plus while I felt it was forced on Batman's end, I saw the beginnings of the Batman/Superman friendship/relationship on Supes end a bit.
- Action was pretty good. From WW stopping the terrorists to the flashback war where SteppenL had to retreat, to most of the final fight.
- Most of the jokes landed for me. Aquaman sitting on the lasso, Supes carrying the entire apartment, one Batman joke, Flash was like 4 for 12 on jokes.
- I liked SteppenL. Ciaran with the dope voice but he did look like a videogame monster to me but I didn't mind. I just accepted it. His history retelling was direct, took the L on Earth, got exiled, came back 5,000 years later and took another L like a scared *****.
- Cyborg. Wasn't great but wasn't the lame I thought he'd be. Still don't believe inn a Cyborg solo but the actor didn't disappoint me as a relative unknown. His story arc was good and understandable. Snyder's approach to him wasn't bad.
- Batman's a-hole reasoning for bringing Supes back and the "He'll get over it." line. That is Batman when it comes to decisions and situations like that. So spot on.
- Superman beating the **** out of everybody with ease. When son had his eyes on the Flash and just brushed the redt off
And forget do you bleed? when he said "You won't let me live, you won't let me die." that hit the feels.
Cons:
- The writing and overall plot. Could've been way better. Lot of the dialogue.
- Aquadudebro. I get it and it was okay at first but then it just became vapid and grating. The Denzel "My man!" line to Cyborg worked but the "Alright!" cut to him when Superman returned on their side was meaningless. Should've been deleted.
- Cyborg's all cgi suit. What specifically pisses me off is they show us him getting his filled out body in the end. Son should've got that after he got the mother box when they brought Supes back to life. He claimed he changed/upgradednevery night so I wanted that look sooner. His all cgi suit look was ugly and parts of him looked frail. Big reason why thought he'd be lame every time I saw him. Probably should've rocked the hoody the whole movie. His look was a bad decision all around.
- Flash. Got annoying after a while. What I really didn't like was how much of a newbie he was and not skilled as a speedster. I watched dude fall down and lose control too many times in the movie. It wss not physical fall down comedy. Just lame. As things stand: FoX-Men Quicksilver >>> CW Flash >> AoU Quicksilver >>>>>>> DCEU Flash.
- The water fights were not impressive to me at all. Amazon's put up more of a fight.
- Cgi was meh. What got to me was the reasoning for some reshoots and the cgi mustache. Sometimes you could clearly see it and it looked off making Cavill look weird and goofy as ****. What was Whedon thinking with that opening scene? Unecessary.
- The process and reasoning behind how Superman would be resurrected. Not real science at all.
- The grave robbing scene. The worst thing in this movie. The reasoning, the scene. All of it. Flash jokes and trying to bond with Cyborg could not save that travesty. Like what makes it so bad is Snyder and whoever wrote that is aware of how macabre it is and still do it. I've read some in here but there were so many better options. Sitting through that just had me like
- Another big con was not having Diane Lane bae look her sexy self. If Aunt May can be sexy then Martha Kent can be too.
Gripes:
- Depowering BatGod Batffleck. Son did not have one dope fight scene the whole flick. My dude was basically the actual regular slow Hawkeye human on the team. I get why to an extent but son could've had one dope scene taking on SteppenL the way he tried to go at "Doomsday" I was so disappoint
- Mentioned it before about it being forced Batman's whole guilt trip with Supes dying and blaming himself. GTFOOH. Not buying it. Did not like.
- Cyborg's defense systems attacks a recently ressurrected Supes. Wasting all that time talking when Flash literally could've grabbed him and ran him to Gotham. Flawed writing.
- Bruce back on his if there's even a 1% chance blah blah blah illogical reasoning. Did it for why he wanted to kill Supes and had the same for why he wanted to bring him back to life. I was thinking if Lois didn't work he's bring the kryptonite spear back out "big guns".
I probably won't rewatch this in theaters but I look forward to having it on in the background when it airs on HBO next year.
I will say it doesn't deserve such a low RT score. Its at 39%. To me this movie falls in the 55%-65% range.
Justice League 5.8/8
Nah, it’ll be #9. He said #10 will be his last.
Good.He's said in an interview the 10 thing wasn't concrete and that he wont be surprised if he makes a few past that number.