At me B.
I in fact, watched Man of Steel start to finish just yesterday, and I STILL stand by every single word. Kevin Costner much more modernized Pa Kent's 1938's values with a more today realism.
1938, yea, the Earth would be in awe. He could be wholesome and good and the world would follow.
Honestly, you're not the only one. If I had you in mind I would've dropped your name no problem.
I had several ppl who liked the story of MoS tell me that and give me those vibes in the DC thread back when it came out. You weren't there for that.
Still makes no sense to me as far as good storytelling goes no matter how y'all spin what Snyder did.
The more revealed about what he intended and what some things meant just made it worse.
He really was gonna have Bruce Wayne get raped, knock up Lois Lane and have Superman be the ****old.
2013, they'd be firing nukes at him. Zero doubt in my mind and you know I'm right. So Pa having a diff view of how he shows himself (and when) is in fact correct.
No. You're wrong and I'll never agree that Superman in any era (unless its some Cold War themed movie alt Superman) should let his father or family or friends die to keep his secret from ppl.
It was a ******* hurricane and we're pretending like everybody got the best eyesight to lock on to Clark saving his dad in so many different ways. To me that's just failure of storytelling and imagination.
Nothing about Pa's view is correct. Its more cowardly at its core than anything.
I mean **** even if i went with your scenario. The nukes aint gonna kill him anyway. Perhaps the foolish humans learn their lesson and we can tell a different story about Clark Kent and Superman. Not Snyder's vagabond who saves ppl here and there and only believes he's ready after meeting Lois not cuz its "time".
We disagree, I get that, you can certainly still believe 1938 Kent is how it should be played forever, I personally like it more updated than outdated.
I guess 10+ years and running you still don't get my stance?
There are several different and better ways to approach and modernize Superman's story/origin for 2013 or 2000 or 2022 or 2040. I'm not sure I've ever had to bother with the 1938 version when he was first created which was all mostly silliness. No lore and no consistency.
Like I usually suggest, pick up a comic book. Your perception and approach seems to be strictly from the depiction of Superman in the movies only and apparently no knowledge on the many different takes on the character you can take from the comics.
Snyder's Superman when it comes down to story and the gist of the character is not based on any of the source material. Directors usually do that for the storylines but not the essence of the character. There are no relevant or resonant themes of Snyder's Superman that reflect any Superman comic during or before Man of Steel. He put together a bad story and a bad character make up. From Pa Kent's teachings, to letting him die, to wasting his youth wandering, to killing Zod cuz he had no choice cuz some innocents die after they killed thousands in their fight destroying Metropolis.
Snyder's Superman doesn't stand for or mean anything.
And I bring up that example, cuz what Rian Johnson did in The Last Jedi is tantamount to the same thing. I sum both up as bad storytelling that some seemed to like/love but the writing is on the wall when you look at the execution and how things ended up. It says a lot already they had no outline or plan for the sequel trilogy but when you do what you did to Finn and then put all the weight on Rey and Kyle, along with their weird *** relationship throughout I would almost say this doesn't belong in Star Wars buuuuutttt then I sit back and reflect and realize the franchise isn't that detailed or well defined in the 7 movies leading up TLJ and there are comparisons where you can they are that sloppy. Specifically when you focus on the previous 6 movies.
There's a lot of hype, a lot of side stories, comics, books that can trick you in to the potential of the series but its never realized on the big screen. Which is why I never regarded Star Wars that highly. Its not known for its great writing. The story is pretty straightforward and its binary approach to good and evil (or the light and dark sides) is probably what's been holding it back on top of the need to bring back all of the iconic actors who made it a blockbuster.
That's why after I first saw TLJ I wasn't that harsh on it. My investment was nowhere near the same. I was like this cool for what it is. It isn't good but yeah ok cool. Then I watched it again and all of the bad storytelling was being praised by some as something fresh and good for the franchise which I did not agree with.
Perplexing.
So they all suck but that one sucked a little different so it gets an edge? Pass. Disrespectful to not have a fully fleshed trilogy ready to go before releasing 7. They had time.
They had ALL the time and a bunch of George's scripts and stories and ideas to at least lay down the outline and overall blueprint for the next trilogy.
Instead they went with lets mimic the OT with how they had 3 different directors but leave out the part where the creator still had the overall story as a road map.
It is still the dumbest blunder I've seen in cinema when it comes to managing multi-million to billion dollar IP.
To think this happened right across the street under the same company from Marvel and Pixar studios. Especially Marvel who is relatively new and got it right and their first big overall try.
Long form storytelling even if it just 3 movies is not for everybody.
