Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

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I actually went back and forth trying to decide which to watch. Saw the 2006 'R' version in theaters. Always thought it was one of the better horrors in a pretty lousy era for the genre.

What's the difference between the theatrical and unrated? You can put it in a spoiler.
 
I had no idea you were actually bad mouthing Oscar's performance, or the Film.
I couldn't begin to even digest the humor in your post as true hate.

Not sure we watched the same Film youngwolf youngwolf
 
Will be curious to see if any of the OGs show up at all in the next Ghostbusters movie. Afterlife was done well enough that I don’t think it’s needed going forward.
 
I actually went back and forth trying to decide which to watch. Saw the 2006 'R' version in theaters. Always thought it was one of the better horrors in a pretty lousy era for the genre.

What's the difference between the theatrical and unrated? You can put it in a spoiler.
I had only seen the movie for the first time last night as the Unrated version, so I looked it up.

Seems like most violent scenes are just seconds longer because there’s a limit of seconds you can have on screen of something obscene or how close-up it can be. They show the burning scene with the father longer and closer up, the bird scene the same, the outhouse suicide the same, etc.
 
Honestly, you're not the only one. If I had you in mind I would've dropped your name no problem.

I had several ppl who liked the story of MoS tell me that and give me those vibes in the DC thread back when it came out. You weren't there for that.

Still makes no sense to me as far as good storytelling goes no matter how y'all spin what Snyder did.

The more revealed about what he intended and what some things meant just made it worse.

He really was gonna have Bruce Wayne get raped, knock up Lois Lane and have Superman be the ****old.

No. You're wrong and I'll never agree that Superman in any era (unless its some Cold War themed movie alt Superman) should let his father or family or friends die to keep his secret from ppl.

It was a ****ing hurricane and we're pretending like everybody got the best eyesight to lock on to Clark saving his dad in so many different ways. To me that's just failure of storytelling and imagination.

Nothing about Pa's view is correct. Its more cowardly at its core than anything.

I mean **** even if i went with your scenario. The nukes aint gonna kill him anyway. Perhaps the foolish humans learn their lesson and we can tell a different story about Clark Kent and Superman. Not Snyder's vagabond who saves ppl here and there and only believes he's ready after meeting Lois not cuz its "time".

I guess 10+ years and running you still don't get my stance?

There are several different and better ways to approach and modernize Superman's story/origin for 2013 or 2000 or 2022 or 2040. I'm not sure I've ever had to bother with the 1938 version when he was first created which was all mostly silliness. No lore and no consistency.

Like I usually suggest, pick up a comic book. Your perception and approach seems to be strictly from the depiction of Superman in the movies only and apparently no knowledge on the many different takes on the character you can take from the comics.

Snyder's Superman when it comes down to story and the gist of the character is not based on any of the source material. Directors usually do that for the storylines but not the essence of the character. There are no relevant or resonant themes of Snyder's Superman that reflect any Superman comic during or before Man of Steel. He put together a bad story and a bad character make up. From Pa Kent's teachings, to letting him die, to wasting his youth wandering, to killing Zod cuz he had no choice cuz some innocents die after they killed thousands in their fight destroying Metropolis.

Snyder's Superman doesn't stand for or mean anything.

And I bring up that example, cuz what Rian Johnson did in The Last Jedi is tantamount to the same thing. I sum both up as bad storytelling that some seemed to like/love but the writing is on the wall when you look at the execution and how things ended up. It says a lot already they had no outline or plan for the sequel trilogy but when you do what you did to Finn and then put all the weight on Rey and Kyle, along with their weird *** relationship throughout I would almost say this doesn't belong in Star Wars buuuuutttt then I sit back and reflect and realize the franchise isn't that detailed or well defined in the 7 movies leading up TLJ and there are comparisons where you can they are that sloppy. Specifically when you focus on the previous 6 movies.

There's a lot of hype, a lot of side stories, comics, books that can trick you in to the potential of the series but its never realized on the big screen. Which is why I never regarded Star Wars that highly. Its not known for its great writing. The story is pretty straightforward and its binary approach to good and evil (or the light and dark sides) is probably what's been holding it back on top of the need to bring back all of the iconic actors who made it a blockbuster.

That's why after I first saw TLJ I wasn't that harsh on it. My investment was nowhere near the same. I was like this cool for what it is. It isn't good but yeah ok cool. Then I watched it again and all of the bad storytelling was being praised by some as something fresh and good for the franchise which I did not agree with.

Perplexing.






They had ALL the time and a bunch of George's scripts and stories and ideas to at least lay down the outline and overall blueprint for the next trilogy.

Instead they went with lets mimic the OT with how they had 3 different directors but leave out the part where the creator still had the overall story as a road map.

It is still the dumbest blunder I've seen in cinema when it comes to managing multi-million to billion dollar IP.

To think this happened right across the street under the same company from Marvel and Pixar studios. Especially Marvel who is relatively new and got it right and their first big overall try.

Long form storytelling even if it just 3 movies is not for everybody.

I'm willing to agree that Kent didn't get EVERYTHING right, I have no idea why he wanted to die in the tornado. I certainly think that could have been corrected.
I agree, tearing the city to shreds was a bit much. I'm not sure why they went that route.

But that wasn't everything Kent said in that film. The stuff with the school bus and the bullies, and who he was gonna have to choose to be, similar to the Brightburn option of this powerful kid turning the other way, he still guided him properly, in this world.

I know the nukes don't matter, I'm saying from our standpoint. You know Republicans would be up in arms that Supes was gonna take over the world and all that nonsense. Lex Luthor would be running for president and winning. :lol

He finally came forward because of Zod, not Lois. He literally told Lois he didn't want his story out and he'd just keeping hiding like always. Then Zod showed up. That's what changed him.

And it wasn't just the Kent stuff I enjoyed, but Crowe's words along with Costner were also well done, imo. I liked both sides of the equation.
 
Jettisoned It Follows and went to The Black Phone with friends…

Interesting connection between the main son and the main daughter and the mom, that’ll never be brought to the forefront.

Ethan Hawke is as much of a mystery to the audience as he is to the community… he’s on screen when he needs to be.

6/8
 
Saw the Elvis movie, wasn't necessarily what I expected but it was good.

Still blows my mind that he never performed outside of the country.
 
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