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Buscemi and terrible acting?


BLASPHEMY.


He makes me believe in every role he's portrayed.
Every time he speaks on BWE, I feel like he's just reading the lines, ain't playing no character..... 

Be easy before they come for your head. :lol

From like...the second episode I was saying Buscemi was wrong for the role. He's not that guy.
I think yall are misconstruing what guy he's suppose to be in this or at least the way the creators have chosen to have him portrayed.
 
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Buscemi and terrible acting?


BLASPHEMY.


He makes me believe in every role he's portrayed.
Every time he speaks on BWE, I feel like he's just reading the lines, ain't playing no character..... 
Be easy before they come for your head.
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From like...the second episode I was saying Buscemi was wrong for the role. He's not that guy.
I think yall are misconstruing what guy he's suppose to be in this or at least the way the creators have chosen to have him portrayed.
Share your insight plz, I really do not like how Buscemi is playing this guy....
 
I Havent seen ot on a while but i think He's not supposed to be tony soprano. He's a legitimate businessman that only turned gangster because his product was made illegal.

Either way I love buschemi and I don't love him in BE. Don't buy it most of the time. Once in a while he shines though like the birthday party scene. He's a phenomenal actor. Just hard to take him as a star I guess after all the years of bit roles making him seem different. The movie with him and Pitt had me interested
 
Waltz is on snl tonight. hope its good

good opening sketch about the stranded cruise at least lol but thats an easy target
 
The Djesus sketch was good
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 had me cracking up.

just saw a commercial for a hannibal series? damn i hope they don't screw that up. All of the movies are good. even the 4th one wasn't terrible by any means

another stephen A smith impersonation 
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   steve nash and I have held hands through numerous hot air balloon rides. it was pretty good considering 
 
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Buscemi and terrible acting?

BLASPHEMY.

He makes me believe in every role he's portrayed.
Every time he speaks on BWE, I feel like he's just reading the lines, ain't playing no character..... 

Be easy before they come for your head. :lol

From like...the second episode I was saying Buscemi was wrong for the role. He's not that guy.
I think yall are misconstruing what guy he's suppose to be in this or at least the way the creators have chosen to have him portrayed.
Share your insight plz, I really do not like how Buscemi is playing this guy....
Steve Buscemi as Nucky Thompson based off Nucky Johnson is not a mob boss, he's not a gangster, this isn't a mafia family story. Nucky Thompson is a businessman, he grew up doing all types of dirt to get where he is his way. He's the guy willing to do deals with almost anyone to get what he needs. As he elevated to the treasurer of Atlantic City he more or less looked down on the gangsters, and all other criminals. He's moved on to white collar crime. He's the reason ppl say don't trust politicians cuz he's the guy tempting them, blackmailing, and bribing them to screw over ppl and lie. He's the sneaky conniving businessman.

This past season was just him being pulled back down in to the underworld and doing things he's done but really doesn't feel he should be doing. Season before that it was a personal affair with Jimmy who was that bridge to that criminal aspect that he's tried to remove himself from. He doesn't like it, wants to be above it. He spoke on how he didn't want this life for Jimmy and through that was forced back to it. Season 1 dealt with him managing his business with a huge aspect of it now being illegal which snowballed in to where we are in the story now. The guy Buscemi is playing is like if Bernie Madoff not only scammed ppl but was killing ppl to get his as well. It's if we found out tomorrow Donald Trump was having ppl killed to profit. He's not Michael or Tony, he's not gonna kiss his brother on the lips before he has him killed, he's not leaving head horses in his enemy's bed as they sleep, he doesn't understand that **** and it's not how he operates. He doesn't have a family with a history of this behavior so he has his own rules. He doesn't have to answer to answer to another faction in NY. He's not a boss the same way these other mob guys are, he actually has a title within the state government, he's made himself in to the ppl's savior and leader in many ways. He's respected more than he is feared. You're not suppose to fear him. It's stuff like that is why he spends time with Arnold Rothstein and not Masseria. Torio recognizes him as a man who does business not some gangster trying to make a name for himself and takes slights personal. He sees these guys he does business with as affiliates and occasional business partners and he's always trying to make sure it's always business and not personal.

The basic distinction would be that Nucky would get the label of being corrupt before the label of being a thug/gangster.

Now if yall don't think Buscemi is capable of pulling that off, I'd disagree. Maybe yall too use to his supporting and bit roles where at most he's the stranger called in to do something, or odd right hand man, loser struggling to his goal, etc. To me he's pulling this off really good given what the actual Nucky Johnson looks like. He's completely warping the character and made it in to something of his own
 
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Rewatched the Girl With the Dragon Tattoo trilogy. Can never get old.
 
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The Djesus sketch was good
I was laughing but I really want to see that movie. Just needs a better budget. Different title like that one I saw in General; Fist of Jesus.

"Less violent than Passion of the Christ" :lol
Rewatched the Girl With the Dragon Tattoo trilogy. Can never get old.
It's a trilogy? Damn when did I miss the other 2 movies?
 
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The basic distinction would be that Nucky would get the label of being corrupt before the label of being a thug/gangster.

Now if yall don't think Buscemi is capable of pulling that off, I'd disagree. Maybe yall too use to his supporting and bit roles where at most he's the stranger called in to do something, or odd right hand man, loser struggling to his goal, etc. To me he's pulling this off really good given what the actual Nucky Johnson looks like. He's completely warping the character and made it in to something of his own

Wait, but all you did was describe the role, not the actor.

I mean first off...whoever says he's doing a bad job is ridiculous.

Dude is a very nuanced, particular actor. Some people overdo it and think 'miscast' means 'bad.' It doesn't. Bad is if they would've casted David Caruso or something. :x But Buscemi is a character actor trying to play a straight lead role. His affect, his demeanor, his presence. He's the type of actor that builds something quietly on their own. Something strange and subtly jarring. Then slides in for a time, captures all the attention as you try and understand what it is you're looking at, then leaves. He's the perfect character actor.

In this role Buscemi just isn't that guy to me, though. If this was a movie, I'd think he was a really interesting and clever departure from expectations, but it isn't. It's not even TV, it's HBO. There's a history there. Not a formula, but an understanding of what it takes. He's not that type of actor. They've pushed the role some to accommodate him and a decent amount of the time it works fine. (especially the scenes with him and Ms. Schroder) But it doesn't change that fact.

I mean obviously with the writers have looked at what they've got and over time tried to tailor their writing and characters to what they're actors are doing, but you can see it from the beginning with Nucky. They keep asking Buscemi to be something he's not. There'll be scenes of tension, scenes of power, where real presence is needed. They'll set him up to leave a stamp on the episode on all the other characters. They'll ask for bravado and intimidation...power...they'll ask him to rip all of the air out of the room, and more times than not, for me, it'll just be alright. It'll just be actors acting out their roles. You'll watch everyone around act as if they've been floored or that he's risen to the occasion and stolen the moment perfectly, but you know he didn't. That's when you wonder what someone different could've done in the role. It's when you realize that he's not necessarily the end all be all of the show, because of that.

HBO's got a long history of these kind of anti-heroes, and Buscemi doesn't elevate Nucky to that level to me. This show tries to build him up like a Tony Soprano or Al Swearengen. You can even look to the HBO-esque shows with Walter White and Don Draper and Vic Mackey and Dexter. But he's not that. He is not. And he's done a good job, but he's playing this left handed. And before you call that a "type," look at the roles those actors played before and since. When have they been leading men again after that?

I remember an interview with Tom Hiddleston where talked about how he had tried out for the role of Thor and just lost out to Chris Hemsworth. But they liked him so much that they gave him the role of Loki. I can imagine that he would've bulked up and dyed his hair if he woulda gotten the role. But think about that. Now I think Tom Hiddleston's a better actor than Chris Hemsworth. Loki's more nuanced and layered. It's a more interesting acting performance. But I get it. You could put Hiddleston in the Thor role all you want, but he doesn't have that quality. And it's not a looks thing, plenty of wooden actors try and fail to get over with that. But Hemsworth has a leading man quality that Hiddleston doesn't and it makes the role. It's magnetic. It's a certain presence. Of course Steve Buscemi can play the role of Nucky, but there's a quality that he as an actor just doesn't have. He brings a higher level of acting to TV than most actors can, but in this role..

And, for me, since he can't be that, this has emotionally turned into an ensemble show in response. Sopranos, Deadwood, The Shield, Big Love...all those shows have a lot of characters, but at their heart, they begin and end with one person. But when you can't exactly rely on your marquee actor to hold the dramatic weight of the narrative, it pushes it in that direction. That's why the strongest the show has been, for me, is when it devotes equal parts to other people. Whether that's Chalky or Darmody or Michael Shannon. It's why so many of the show's fans were lowkey hoping that Michael Pitt would take over. This is a show that could've honestly killed off Nucky in say the third season and had Darmody take his place and people would've accepted that after a few episodes.

I'm not saying he isn't up to doing this role. He is. It's just he has a different set of things he brings to his roles. And this is a longform HBO series. It's not just asking that he be good and believable and nuanced. It's asking that he be the best and strongest actor on the show most of the time, and for him to dominate a scene on command. He's supposed to be the measuring stick. He's the proof for when a new big bad shows up, that that guy is about it.

You don't need to be loud to do that. You don't need to be physically bigger than everyone else. It just has to be honest and impactful. Buscemi is so amazingly set up to do that in this show, but for me...most of the time, it doesn't rise above and lands kinda flat. And parts of the show just ring false to me, because of it. It feels more like a show just methodically going through the motions, when it talks a bigger game than we're seeing. And it's because that center...that core...that reason for being is just...not all it's built up to be. When the show plays to his strengths, it's great, but those strengths aren't what the meat of the show needs from him.

And before you get on him being casted, because he looks like Nucky, didn't someone post that the real Nucky was over 6'+ and 220+?

And how in the hell did he win an Emmy up against Heisenberg? or am I just misremembering things. :lol
 
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Brevity.

Use it.

Tried that.

Buscemi and terrible acting?


BLASPHEMY.


He makes me believe in every role he's portrayed.
Every time he speaks on BWE, I feel like he's just reading the lines, ain't playing no character.....

Be easy before they come for your head. :lol

From like...the second episode I was saying Buscemi was wrong for the role. He's not that guy.
 
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I think I like Pitch Perfect more than the average guy should.
 
Nothing wrong with that. It's a funny movie with attractive women and solid musical performances.

It won't reach the level of other movies like Clueless, Bring it On, Mean Girls, that reached cult status and appealed to everyone (mostly because many won't get past the singing element), but it's definitely one of my guilty pleasure movies.
 
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watching pineapple express on fx, not the same on tv but still awesome. james franco was perfect as saul.
 
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