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Originally Posted by sole vintage
not the first time Ginobili has been involved in a "double-flop"
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Originally Posted by sole vintage
I won't say sweep but been saying this.Originally Posted by nflowshoe
One note I took from tonight, this is the finals. Both of these teams are so far ahead of the celtics and heat. Whoever wins this series will sweep the eastern conference. The depth/defense of both teams
I agree with this. Furthermore, Perkins was playing scared to pick up his 6th foul so it was like 5 on 4 out there. Scott Brooks lost them that game. I think he is a good coach though, just that he screwed up in the fourth and lost them this game.Originally Posted by Scientific Method
Originally Posted by nflowshoe
Originally Posted by Big J 33
But how much do you credit him for their success? You can take a bum off the street and give him KD, Russ, and Harden, and they'll make the playoffs. Maybe not a bad coach, but an average one. You could replace him with a number of coaches and I think they're exactly in the same spot they are now.
IMO, for the fact that Brooks can keep Perkins under control, westbrook & durant happy, and Harden(can start for any team) happy with his role off the bench makes him a good coach/manager. I put this lost on the players, they were up by 7 late in the game and let the Spurs get easy layups while the thunder shoot 20ft jumpers. Im not sure what was up with Ibaka not playing but trust the reasoning for him not playing to be better for the team in the long run.
So everything positive, credit the coach, everything negative is the players fault? Sounds eerily similar to Jesus and every other God in religion.at you puttin' Brooks on that type of pedestal.
Yall are acting like Duncan was putting in major work. He had 16 and 11 on 15 shots (40% shooting) and was at the top of the key most of the game after setting screens. For whatever disadvantage you get going from Perkins to Ibaka defensively, you gain an advantage in rim protection. They doubled us up 52 to 26 in the paint, particularly in the 4th where Ibaka didn't play. It was layup city.
Originally Posted by FlipNLu
Tim DuncanKendrick Perkins sets moving screens or throws out the knee everytime. FIXED
Originally Posted by Elpablo21
It's like Harden is a young Padawan learning from his Jedi Master
Originally Posted by The Fresh Sole
captain jack with solid defense
Originally Posted by you big dummy
Originally Posted by sole vintage
not the first time Ginobili has been involved in a "double-flop"
Just disgracefulOriginally Posted by you big dummy
Originally Posted by sole vintage
not the first time Ginobili has been involved in a "double-flop"
How did I miss this?
It's definitely not impossible. I've watched the Thunder enough to say that when they play like crap they only lose by 1-3 points. Almost stole Game 1 if not for some bad match ups from old Scottie. 10 more seconds on the clock and I think game 1 would've had a different outcome.Originally Posted by dmbrhs
You honestly believe the Thunder can win four in a row? That's a lot to ask.Originally Posted by buggz05
You're trollin.Originally Posted by jordan23dotcom
You during round1, round 2, and any other game they win.
I still say Thunder in 5 or 6 off of youth and talent, not coaching. Scott Brooks hasn't won a single game in his career that I've watched the Thunder play.
I hear the "Brooks tames a bunch of immature players and turned them into finals contenders" argument all of the time. I simply disagree with it. I think the players that we have are cut from a different cloth, and to Brooks credit you do hear him say that a lot in his press conferences. Basically what I am saying is that I think the Thunder players are hungry and basketball mature enough to go as far as they've gone by themselves.Originally Posted by jordan23dotcom
Originally Posted by buggz05
Your trollin.Originally Posted by jordan23dotcom
You during round1, round 2, and any other game they win.
I still say Thunder in 5 or 6 off of youth and talent, not coaching. Scott Brooks hasn't won a single game in his career that I've watched the Thunder play.
Naw bro, by your logic all brooks does is hand them water. How many teams with talent don't even make the 1st round of the playoffs, or even make it in. He's no P Jackson but he's doing work.
I agree, but I'm of the idea that unless you can matchup Harden on Gary Neal he is useless in this series. Son is so much of a defensive liability its od.Originally Posted by buggz05
I hear the "Brooks tames a bunch of immature players and turned them into finals contenders" argument all of the time. I simply disagree with it. I think the players that we have are cut from a different cloth, and to Brooks credit you do hear him say that a lot in his press conferences. Basically what I am saying is that I think the Thunder players are hungry and basketball mature enough to go as far as they've gone by themselves.Originally Posted by jordan23dotcom
Originally Posted by buggz05
Your trollin.
I still say Thunder in 5 or 6 off of youth and talent, not coaching. Scott Brooks hasn't won a single game in his career that I've watched the Thunder play.
Naw bro, by your logic all brooks does is hand them water. How many teams with talent don't even make the 1st round of the playoffs, or even make it in. He's no P Jackson but he's doing work.
I will say that something about Scott Brooks is ingenius. I think his non-offensive-rebounding strategy may possibly be some type of ingenius scheme to get the other team to play at a faster pace with the Thunder. The players definitely by into his scheme. And I have to give him credit for simply letting them run loose without limiting their abilities.
It's his match-ups and lack of momentum control that makes him a bad coach imo. I'm talking about entire halves and quarters where he is being out matched with players. They literally do not rebound and they literally do not run an offensive scheme other than Westbrook attack, Durant shoot, everybody else spot up.
He is a personel manager not a game manager. And he can thank Sam Presti for giving him players with the an easily manageable personality. Give me game management and a defensive strategy any day of the week. This team has the capability to become a dynasty. Anything less would beas a fan who has to watch good teams lose their chance at greatness over a span of years; and all from a lack of offensive rebounds, time-outs and simple defensive match-ups.
Originally Posted by buggz05
It's definitely not impossible. I've watched the Thunder enough to say that when they play like crap they only lose by 1-3 points. Almost stole Game 1 if not for some bad match ups from old Scottie. 10 more seconds on the clock and I think game 1 would've had a different outcome.Originally Posted by dmbrhs
You honestly believe the Thunder can win four in a row? That's a lot to ask.Originally Posted by buggz05
You're trollin.
I still say Thunder in 5 or 6 off of youth and talent, not coaching. Scott Brooks hasn't won a single game in his career that I've watched the Thunder play.
I think they get one on the road obviously, whether it's a game 2 or a game 5. It's hard for any team to win at OKC so I think they get those 2.
Basically I think they'll get 4 out of the next 5 games and probably wrap up at home.
Obviously Greg Pop vs Scottie Brooks is the X factor here, and Greg Pop takes the cake. The Spurs are the smarter team, and the Thunder are a more hard-nosed team that pushes the ball harder.
The Spurs can keep up with the pace of the Thunder -- and vice versa -- but it throws them off-sync a bit in the momentum of their half-court sets.
Awesome matchups this series. Could easily go either way. It will be a game-by-game series, which means I won't be surprised by any outcome of this series other than a sweep.
A 35 YR old Duncan is still the greatest PF ever.Originally Posted by KenJi714
35 years old Duncan made Bynum and Gasol look like chumps
Originally Posted by bdis1986
Originally Posted by you big dummy
Originally Posted by sole vintage
not the first time Ginobili has been involved in a "double-flop"
Loook at Ginobili bra .. Lmaooooo
Originally Posted by Do Be Doo
Originally Posted by buggz05
It's definitely not impossible. I've watched the Thunder enough to say that when they play like crap they only lose by 1-3 points. Almost stole Game 1 if not for some bad match ups from old Scottie. 10 more seconds on the clock and I think game 1 would've had a different outcome.Originally Posted by dmbrhs
You honestly believe the Thunder can win four in a row? That's a lot to ask.
I think they get one on the road obviously, whether it's a game 2 or a game 5. It's hard for any team to win at OKC so I think they get those 2.
Basically I think they'll get 4 out of the next 5 games and probably wrap up at home.
Obviously Greg Pop vs Scottie Brooks is the X factor here, and Greg Pop takes the cake. The Spurs are the smarter team, and the Thunder are a more hard-nosed team that pushes the ball harder.
The Spurs can keep up with the pace of the Thunder -- and vice versa -- but it throws them off-sync a bit in the momentum of their half-court sets.
Awesome matchups this series. Could easily go either way. It will be a game-by-game series, which means I won't be surprised by any outcome of this series other than a sweep.
1-3 points???...ten more seconds???
It should have been a 8 point game. the thunder hit some 3s in the end that didnt matter at the end of the game.
Oh I have also seen this SPURS team play enough were I know they wont let down.
This isn't just any team. This is the 4 time NBA champs San Antonio SPURS.
OKC gonna get 4 out of 5?
You know what Im just gonna quote this post. Not gonna say mush until after the series.
Change the sig too. Foolish.
Originally Posted by buggz05
I hear the "Brooks tames a bunch of immature players and turned them into finals contenders" argument all of the time. I simply disagree with it. I think the players that we have are cut from a different cloth, and to Brooks credit you do hear him say that a lot in his press conferences. Basically what I am saying is that I think the Thunder players are hungry and basketball mature enough to go as far as they've gone by themselves.Originally Posted by jordan23dotcom
Originally Posted by buggz05
Your trollin.
I still say Thunder in 5 or 6 off of youth and talent, not coaching. Scott Brooks hasn't won a single game in his career that I've watched the Thunder play.
Naw bro, by your logic all brooks does is hand them water. How many teams with talent don't even make the 1st round of the playoffs, or even make it in. He's no P Jackson but he's doing work.
I will say that something about Scott Brooks is ingenius. I think his non-offensive-rebounding strategy may possibly be some type of ingenius scheme to get the other team to play at a faster pace with the Thunder. The players definitely by into his scheme. And I have to give him credit for simply letting them run loose without limiting their abilities.
It's his match-ups and lack of momentum control that makes him a bad coach imo. I'm talking about entire halves and quarters where he is being out matched with players. They literally do not rebound and they literally do not run an offensive scheme other than Westbrook attack, Durant shoot, everybody else spot up.
He is a personel manager not a game manager. And he can thank Sam Presti for giving him players with the an easily manageable personality. Give me game management and a defensive strategy any day of the week. This team has the capability to become a dynasty. Anything less would beas a fan who has to watch good teams lose their chance at greatness over a span of years; and all from a lack of offensive rebounds, time-outs and simple defensive match-ups.