On September 11th they are going to burn a Koran in NYC (serious)

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

I don't understand why we americans are so catering to the muslim faith, it's as if being muslim is the new black (yes i'm black)...now, i have nothing against islam...but is it wrong, for a country who's roots are deeply ground in the Christian faith to not want to accept another religion? Now, i'm not 100% sure but i bet saudi arabia isn't as welcoming to the Christian faith as we are to the muslim faith. Again, let me reiterate, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ISLAM.
Ok the country doesn't have to accept it but this country doesn't have to go burn the Koran either. That's straight up disrespectful.
there's nothing wrong with being respectful and accepting another religion into the country. That doesn't mean the US is about to turn into a Muslim country or anything. It's all about respect.

Whoever takes part in the burning of the Koran and/or supports it, should burn slowly in hell.
 
Originally Posted by 35KD

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

I don't understand why we americans are so catering to the muslim faith, it's as if being muslim is the new black (yes i'm black)...now, i have nothing against islam...but is it wrong, for a country who's roots are deeply ground in the Christian faith to not want to accept another religion? Now, i'm not 100% sure but i bet saudi arabia isn't as welcoming to the Christian faith as we are to the muslim faith. Again, let me reiterate, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ISLAM.
Ok the country doesn't have to accept it but this country doesn't have to go burn the Koran either. That's straight up disrespectful.
there's nothing wrong with being respectful and accepting another religion into the country. That doesn't mean the US is about to turn into a Muslim country or anything. It's all about respect.

Whoever takes part in the burning of the Koran and/or supports it, should burn slowly in hell.

this
since  when was   saudia Arabia the  standard
 
Originally Posted by 35KD

Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

I don't understand why we americans are so catering to the muslim faith, it's as if being muslim is the new black (yes i'm black)...now, i have nothing against islam...but is it wrong, for a country who's roots are deeply ground in the Christian faith to not want to accept another religion? Now, i'm not 100% sure but i bet saudi arabia isn't as welcoming to the Christian faith as we are to the muslim faith. Again, let me reiterate, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ISLAM.
Ok the country doesn't have to accept it but this country doesn't have to go burn the Koran either. That's straight up disrespectful.
there's nothing wrong with being respectful and accepting another religion into the country. That doesn't mean the US is about to turn into a Muslim country or anything. It's all about respect.

Whoever takes part in the burning of the Koran and/or supports it, should burn slowly in hell.

this
since  when was   saudia Arabia the  standard
 
yeah we are America, you can practice any religion you want. you can also burn any book you want too even if its not the right thing to do
 
yeah we are America, you can practice any religion you want. you can also burn any book you want too even if its not the right thing to do
 
Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

yeah we are America, you can practice any religion you want. you can also burn any book you want too even if its not the right thing to do
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I guess it's cool to burn the American flag if you want to, even if it's not the right thing to do?
 
Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

yeah we are America, you can practice any religion you want. you can also burn any book you want too even if its not the right thing to do
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I guess it's cool to burn the American flag if you want to, even if it's not the right thing to do?
 
Originally Posted by 35KD

Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

yeah we are America, you can practice any religion you want. you can also burn any book you want too even if its not the right thing to do
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I guess it's cool to burn the American flag if you want to, even if it's not the right thing to do?


cool? NO

right? yes, you have the right.

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Originally Posted by 35KD

Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

yeah we are America, you can practice any religion you want. you can also burn any book you want too even if its not the right thing to do
laugh.gif


I guess it's cool to burn the American flag if you want to, even if it's not the right thing to do?


cool? NO

right? yes, you have the right.

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Originally Posted by 35KD

Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

yeah we are America, you can practice any religion you want. you can also burn any book you want too even if its not the right thing to do
laugh.gif


I guess it's cool to burn the American flag if you want to, even if it's not the right thing to do?

didnt say it was cool, you are missing the point
 
Originally Posted by 35KD

Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

yeah we are America, you can practice any religion you want. you can also burn any book you want too even if its not the right thing to do
laugh.gif


I guess it's cool to burn the American flag if you want to, even if it's not the right thing to do?

didnt say it was cool, you are missing the point
 
Originally Posted by Fatherless Child

He didn't mean cool as in doing it cause it's a trend. He meant cool as ok. You knew that.

i didnt. either way, if you want to burn one, its your choice. thats the point i was making. doesnt matter if i like it or not.
 
Originally Posted by Fatherless Child

He didn't mean cool as in doing it cause it's a trend. He meant cool as ok. You knew that.

i didnt. either way, if you want to burn one, its your choice. thats the point i was making. doesnt matter if i like it or not.
 
my bad not in the most sober state at the moment but yeah i re-read and get what you meant now.
 
my bad not in the most sober state at the moment but yeah i re-read and get what you meant now.
 
Originally Posted by DubA169

America wasn't founded on Christianity. we don't have a national religion or language. i have no idea where you got that from.





One of the most common statements from the "Religious Right" is that they want this country to "return to the Christian principles on which it was founded". However, a little research into American history will show that this statement is a lie. The men responsible for building the foundation of the United States had little use for Christianity, and many were strongly opposed to it. They were men of The Enlightenment, not men of Christianity. They were Deists who did not believe the bible was true.

When the Founders wrote the nation's Constitution, they specified that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article 6, section 3) This provision was radical in its day-- giving equal citizenship to believers and non-believers alike. They wanted to ensure that no single religion could make the claim of being the official, national religion, such as England had. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention religion, except in exclusionary terms. The words "Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, and God" are never mentioned in the Constitution-- not once.

The Declaration of Independence gives us important insight into the opinions of the Founding Fathers. Thomas Jefferson wrote that the power of the government is derived from the governed. Up until that time, it was claimed that kings ruled nations by the authority of God. The Declaration was a radical departure from the idea of divine authority.

The 1796 treaty with Tripoli states that the United States was "in no sense founded on the Christian religion" (see below). This was not an idle statement, meant to satisfy muslims-- they believed it and meant it. This treaty was written under the presidency of George Washington and signed under the presidency of John Adams.

None of the Founding Fathers were atheists. Most of the Founders were Deists, which is to say they thought the universe had a creator, but that he does not concern himself with the daily lives of humans, and does not directly communicate with humans, either by revelation or by sacred books. They spoke often of God, (Nature's God or the God of Nature), but this was not the God of the bible. They did not deny that there was a person called Jesus, and praised him for his benevolent teachings, but they flatly denied his divinity. Some people speculate that if Charles Darwin had lived a century earlier, the Founding Fathers would have had a basis for accepting naturalistic origins of life, and they would have been atheists. Most of them were stoutly opposed to the bible, and the teachings of Christianity in particular.
DubA169 wrote:
America wasn't founded on Christianity. we don't have a national religion or language. i have no idea where you got that from.





One of the most common statements from the "Religious Right" is that they want this country to "return to the Christian principles on which it was founded". However, a little research into American history will show that this statement is a lie. The men responsible for building the foundation of the United States had little use for Christianity, and many were strongly opposed to it. They were men of The Enlightenment, not men of Christianity. They were Deists who did not believe the bible was true.

When the Founders wrote the nation's Constitution, they specified that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article 6, section 3) This provision was radical in its day-- giving equal citizenship to believers and non-believers alike. They wanted to ensure that no single religion could make the claim of being the official, national religion, such as England had. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention religion, except in exclusionary terms. The words "Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, and God" are never mentioned in the Constitution-- not once.

The Declaration of Independence gives us important insight into the opinions of the Founding Fathers. Thomas Jefferson wrote that the power of the government is derived from the governed. Up until that time, it was claimed that kings ruled nations by the authority of God. The Declaration was a radical departure from the idea of divine authority.

The 1796 treaty with Tripoli states that the United States was "in no sense founded on the Christian religion" (see below). This was not an idle statement, meant to satisfy muslims-- they believed it and meant it. This treaty was written under the presidency of George Washington and signed under the presidency of John Adams.

None of the Founding Fathers were atheists. Most of the Founders were Deists, which is to say they thought the universe had a creator, but that he does not concern himself with the daily lives of humans, and does not directly communicate with humans, either by revelation or by sacred books. They spoke often of God, (Nature's God or the God of Nature), but this was not the God of the bible. They did not deny that there was a person called Jesus, and praised him for his benevolent teachings, but they flatly denied his divinity. Some people speculate that if Charles Darwin had lived a century earlier, the Founding Fathers would have had a basis for accepting naturalistic origins of life, and they would have been atheists. Most of them were stoutly opposed to the bible, and the teachings of Christianity in particular.

I didn't say america was found on Christianity. I said, "a country who's roots are deeply ground in the Christian faith". There's a difference. And the Christian influence in this country is evident in the Christian based laws we have.
 
Originally Posted by DubA169

America wasn't founded on Christianity. we don't have a national religion or language. i have no idea where you got that from.





One of the most common statements from the "Religious Right" is that they want this country to "return to the Christian principles on which it was founded". However, a little research into American history will show that this statement is a lie. The men responsible for building the foundation of the United States had little use for Christianity, and many were strongly opposed to it. They were men of The Enlightenment, not men of Christianity. They were Deists who did not believe the bible was true.

When the Founders wrote the nation's Constitution, they specified that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article 6, section 3) This provision was radical in its day-- giving equal citizenship to believers and non-believers alike. They wanted to ensure that no single religion could make the claim of being the official, national religion, such as England had. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention religion, except in exclusionary terms. The words "Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, and God" are never mentioned in the Constitution-- not once.

The Declaration of Independence gives us important insight into the opinions of the Founding Fathers. Thomas Jefferson wrote that the power of the government is derived from the governed. Up until that time, it was claimed that kings ruled nations by the authority of God. The Declaration was a radical departure from the idea of divine authority.

The 1796 treaty with Tripoli states that the United States was "in no sense founded on the Christian religion" (see below). This was not an idle statement, meant to satisfy muslims-- they believed it and meant it. This treaty was written under the presidency of George Washington and signed under the presidency of John Adams.

None of the Founding Fathers were atheists. Most of the Founders were Deists, which is to say they thought the universe had a creator, but that he does not concern himself with the daily lives of humans, and does not directly communicate with humans, either by revelation or by sacred books. They spoke often of God, (Nature's God or the God of Nature), but this was not the God of the bible. They did not deny that there was a person called Jesus, and praised him for his benevolent teachings, but they flatly denied his divinity. Some people speculate that if Charles Darwin had lived a century earlier, the Founding Fathers would have had a basis for accepting naturalistic origins of life, and they would have been atheists. Most of them were stoutly opposed to the bible, and the teachings of Christianity in particular.
DubA169 wrote:
America wasn't founded on Christianity. we don't have a national religion or language. i have no idea where you got that from.





One of the most common statements from the "Religious Right" is that they want this country to "return to the Christian principles on which it was founded". However, a little research into American history will show that this statement is a lie. The men responsible for building the foundation of the United States had little use for Christianity, and many were strongly opposed to it. They were men of The Enlightenment, not men of Christianity. They were Deists who did not believe the bible was true.

When the Founders wrote the nation's Constitution, they specified that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article 6, section 3) This provision was radical in its day-- giving equal citizenship to believers and non-believers alike. They wanted to ensure that no single religion could make the claim of being the official, national religion, such as England had. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention religion, except in exclusionary terms. The words "Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, and God" are never mentioned in the Constitution-- not once.

The Declaration of Independence gives us important insight into the opinions of the Founding Fathers. Thomas Jefferson wrote that the power of the government is derived from the governed. Up until that time, it was claimed that kings ruled nations by the authority of God. The Declaration was a radical departure from the idea of divine authority.

The 1796 treaty with Tripoli states that the United States was "in no sense founded on the Christian religion" (see below). This was not an idle statement, meant to satisfy muslims-- they believed it and meant it. This treaty was written under the presidency of George Washington and signed under the presidency of John Adams.

None of the Founding Fathers were atheists. Most of the Founders were Deists, which is to say they thought the universe had a creator, but that he does not concern himself with the daily lives of humans, and does not directly communicate with humans, either by revelation or by sacred books. They spoke often of God, (Nature's God or the God of Nature), but this was not the God of the bible. They did not deny that there was a person called Jesus, and praised him for his benevolent teachings, but they flatly denied his divinity. Some people speculate that if Charles Darwin had lived a century earlier, the Founding Fathers would have had a basis for accepting naturalistic origins of life, and they would have been atheists. Most of them were stoutly opposed to the bible, and the teachings of Christianity in particular.

I didn't say america was found on Christianity. I said, "a country who's roots are deeply ground in the Christian faith". There's a difference. And the Christian influence in this country is evident in the Christian based laws we have.
 
damn at first glance I thought it said burn a "Korean" in NYC 
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lol @ rights. Rights is a word for peons and feudalistic servants. U can do anything u want, just gotta get away with it. For example u can have "the right" to burn something in the name of free speech but some dude could still smack ur kufi off. -Gotta stop bringing up the constitution and the declaration of independence, the founding fathers etc. That document has been bypassed countless times by the fed govt and millions of other people and is only brought up with the aim to support a specific interest or cause.With that said, this is on that provocation tip again, just like that pedo-marriage article 
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 IMO the PR machine is in full swing to once again shift the public perception and alienate the Muslim population in the US. Why? Who knows, maybe they are planning to escalate the Afghanistan campaign or Iran dunno 
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damn at first glance I thought it said burn a "Korean" in NYC 
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lol @ rights. Rights is a word for peons and feudalistic servants. U can do anything u want, just gotta get away with it. For example u can have "the right" to burn something in the name of free speech but some dude could still smack ur kufi off. -Gotta stop bringing up the constitution and the declaration of independence, the founding fathers etc. That document has been bypassed countless times by the fed govt and millions of other people and is only brought up with the aim to support a specific interest or cause.With that said, this is on that provocation tip again, just like that pedo-marriage article 
smh.gif
 IMO the PR machine is in full swing to once again shift the public perception and alienate the Muslim population in the US. Why? Who knows, maybe they are planning to escalate the Afghanistan campaign or Iran dunno 
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Originally Posted by AJChick23

Wow..don't people understand that hateful acts like this only makes situations worse?
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You don't understand. They WANT to make it worse. There are Islamic extremists who want to create the so-called "clash of civilizations", an all out war between the Muslim world and the west. And then there are right-wing extremists in the west who want to do the same thing, so they do provocations like this. Stuck in between the two is the vast majority of moderate westerners and Muslims who just want to live in peace.
 
Originally Posted by AJChick23

Wow..don't people understand that hateful acts like this only makes situations worse?
smh.gif


You don't understand. They WANT to make it worse. There are Islamic extremists who want to create the so-called "clash of civilizations", an all out war between the Muslim world and the west. And then there are right-wing extremists in the west who want to do the same thing, so they do provocations like this. Stuck in between the two is the vast majority of moderate westerners and Muslims who just want to live in peace.
 
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