On September 11th they are going to burn a Koran in NYC (serious)

Don't be surprised when these idiots ends up dead or worse. This can turn real ugly because radicals will go crazy and because of these morons innocent people that had no of this act will be paying. Man why people filled with so much hate? Why can't we be civil and rational? This is really sad.
 
Don't be surprised when these idiots ends up dead or worse. This can turn real ugly because radicals will go crazy and because of these morons innocent people that had no of this act will be paying. Man why people filled with so much hate? Why can't we be civil and rational? This is really sad.
 
Originally Posted by LoveOfTheGame916

this is just despicable. I cant believe my own country sometimes
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this. i've been thinking this for a minute...life without religion > *

im startin to think of getting married (whenever that pops off) NOT in a church, and just cut to the chase and pay for a legal marriage license and just have a dope reception
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...sheeeeeeeit, i can 'kiss the bride' anytime, if this is what religion is turning into in this country im not sure i wanna associate myself with it anymore.
 
Originally Posted by LoveOfTheGame916

this is just despicable. I cant believe my own country sometimes
smh.gif


this. i've been thinking this for a minute...life without religion > *

im startin to think of getting married (whenever that pops off) NOT in a church, and just cut to the chase and pay for a legal marriage license and just have a dope reception
grin.gif
...sheeeeeeeit, i can 'kiss the bride' anytime, if this is what religion is turning into in this country im not sure i wanna associate myself with it anymore.
 
Originally Posted by sreggie101

Originally Posted by LoveOfTheGame916

this is just despicable. I cant believe my own country sometimes
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this. i've been thinking this for a minute...life without religion > *

im startin to think of getting married (whenever that pops off) NOT in a church, and just cut to the chase and pay for a legal marriage license and just have a dope reception
grin.gif
...sheeeeeeeit, i can 'kiss the bride' anytime, if this is what religion is turning into in this country im not sure i wanna associate myself with it anymore.
Come on now.  You're basing your wedding plans due to an idiot Pastor that wants to burn the Koran? 

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I mean really? This guy up here speaks for all Christians?

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Personally I could care less if they burn the Koran, the Bible, or the US Flag.  These people can do whatever they want to do to make themselves happy. I am going to do ME and these people can do THEM.

What irritates me is the way the media is spinning this.  We all know it doesn't take much for these uneducated ignorant Muslims in the middle east to use this as propaganda to further their hatred of the West. 
 
Originally Posted by sreggie101

Originally Posted by LoveOfTheGame916

this is just despicable. I cant believe my own country sometimes
smh.gif


this. i've been thinking this for a minute...life without religion > *

im startin to think of getting married (whenever that pops off) NOT in a church, and just cut to the chase and pay for a legal marriage license and just have a dope reception
grin.gif
...sheeeeeeeit, i can 'kiss the bride' anytime, if this is what religion is turning into in this country im not sure i wanna associate myself with it anymore.
Come on now.  You're basing your wedding plans due to an idiot Pastor that wants to burn the Koran? 

jones_terry_koran_397x224.jpg


I mean really? This guy up here speaks for all Christians?

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Personally I could care less if they burn the Koran, the Bible, or the US Flag.  These people can do whatever they want to do to make themselves happy. I am going to do ME and these people can do THEM.

What irritates me is the way the media is spinning this.  We all know it doesn't take much for these uneducated ignorant Muslims in the middle east to use this as propaganda to further their hatred of the West. 
 
Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

yeah we are America, you can practice any religion you want. you can also burn any book you want too even if its not the right thing to do

But, then where is the limit? When is it acceptable to accept intolerant and prejudice acts that spearhead hate speech against a certain group of individuals? There is a very fine line between freedom of expression and hate speech.
  
 
Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

yeah we are America, you can practice any religion you want. you can also burn any book you want too even if its not the right thing to do

But, then where is the limit? When is it acceptable to accept intolerant and prejudice acts that spearhead hate speech against a certain group of individuals? There is a very fine line between freedom of expression and hate speech.
  
 
Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey

Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

yeah we are America, you can practice any religion you want. you can also burn any book you want too even if its not the right thing to do

But, then where is the limit? When is it acceptable to accept intolerant and prejudice acts that spearhead hate speech against a certain group of individuals? There is a very fine line between freedom of expression and hate speech.
  

The Supreme Court disagrees with you.
 
Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey

Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

yeah we are America, you can practice any religion you want. you can also burn any book you want too even if its not the right thing to do

But, then where is the limit? When is it acceptable to accept intolerant and prejudice acts that spearhead hate speech against a certain group of individuals? There is a very fine line between freedom of expression and hate speech.
  

The Supreme Court disagrees with you.
 
Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

Originally Posted by AJChick23

Wow..don't people understand that hateful acts like this only makes situations worse?
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You don't understand. They WANT to make it worse. There are Islamic extremists who want to create the so-called "clash of civilizations", an all out war between the Muslim world and the west. And then there are right-wing extremists in the west who want to do the same thing, so they do provocations like this. Stuck in between the two is the vast majority of moderate westerners and Muslims who just want to live in peace.
Nah. Other way around. It is the U.S. government that wants you to think there is a"Clash of Civilizations" and they are the ones that want to make this war of the Muslim world versus the West. They created it. This ideology was all started by Samuel Huntington who thought up of this thesis of a post-Cold War new world order. He also wrote in his book that the West was going to clash with the Muslim world who are going to go all crazy and want to destroy the Western world for representation of modernity,and because they are jealous of their freedoms,etc. During the late 70s, during Carter's administration, Huntington was the White House Coordinator of Security Planning for the National Security Council. So the U.S. government just took this thesis for the New World Order for the Post Cold War era, played it up, and rode with it.

This ideology influenced high officials in the White House and they made it happen. When the U.S. became a hegemony after the fall of Communism, in order to stay powerful and expand its geo-political influence, they needed to retain their identity by identifying a new enemy (also helped to allow them to infiltrate into the region to gain geo-political power for their interests, i.e. Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel,etc). The new hegemony test started with the First Gulf War with the New World Order.  As you see, it is continued now with the "War on Terrorism". Until 9/11, there was no identified and intact enemy, until 9/11 and if anything the U.S. played up on the "Clash of Civilizations".

I do not know why the public is so apt to believe Islamist radicals are out just to destroy the West because it is non-Islamic, modern, etc. I see it completely the other way around, the radical waco Islamist fundamentalist use Islam as a tool for POLITICAL anti-colonial type of leverage rather than how they want to go after the West because they are modern and Christian. If anything, it is a way to fight back what they believe is an emperor that is an foreign,imperialist,colonial bully out to destroy their way of life and attack THEIR religion. That is why Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution by Khomeini in Iran garnered so much support and was supported by Middle Easteners everywhere. That is where Islamic fundamentalism started to have deep influence everywhere else in the Middl East and it popped out other religious radicals like Hamas and Hezbollah in the 80s. Radical and militant Islam was starting to take over the socialist or nationalist secular forms of political ideology in the Middle East and seen as the new tool to fight what they saw as foreign occupiers and invaders from Western governments, rather than it is because they want to destroy the Western, secular, and Christian way of life and because they are jealous of their freedoms. But, in a way, it juxtaposed to identify themselves what they are not and play on their identity of saying I am Muslim and you will not destroy my way of life with your foreign meddling in our politics and lives.

Ok, so I just went on a tangent. Don't even know if what I wrote makes sense. Well, the first paragraph is probably what directly responds to your post.
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Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

Originally Posted by AJChick23

Wow..don't people understand that hateful acts like this only makes situations worse?
smh.gif


You don't understand. They WANT to make it worse. There are Islamic extremists who want to create the so-called "clash of civilizations", an all out war between the Muslim world and the west. And then there are right-wing extremists in the west who want to do the same thing, so they do provocations like this. Stuck in between the two is the vast majority of moderate westerners and Muslims who just want to live in peace.
Nah. Other way around. It is the U.S. government that wants you to think there is a"Clash of Civilizations" and they are the ones that want to make this war of the Muslim world versus the West. They created it. This ideology was all started by Samuel Huntington who thought up of this thesis of a post-Cold War new world order. He also wrote in his book that the West was going to clash with the Muslim world who are going to go all crazy and want to destroy the Western world for representation of modernity,and because they are jealous of their freedoms,etc. During the late 70s, during Carter's administration, Huntington was the White House Coordinator of Security Planning for the National Security Council. So the U.S. government just took this thesis for the New World Order for the Post Cold War era, played it up, and rode with it.

This ideology influenced high officials in the White House and they made it happen. When the U.S. became a hegemony after the fall of Communism, in order to stay powerful and expand its geo-political influence, they needed to retain their identity by identifying a new enemy (also helped to allow them to infiltrate into the region to gain geo-political power for their interests, i.e. Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel,etc). The new hegemony test started with the First Gulf War with the New World Order.  As you see, it is continued now with the "War on Terrorism". Until 9/11, there was no identified and intact enemy, until 9/11 and if anything the U.S. played up on the "Clash of Civilizations".

I do not know why the public is so apt to believe Islamist radicals are out just to destroy the West because it is non-Islamic, modern, etc. I see it completely the other way around, the radical waco Islamist fundamentalist use Islam as a tool for POLITICAL anti-colonial type of leverage rather than how they want to go after the West because they are modern and Christian. If anything, it is a way to fight back what they believe is an emperor that is an foreign,imperialist,colonial bully out to destroy their way of life and attack THEIR religion. That is why Iran's 1979 Islamic revolution by Khomeini in Iran garnered so much support and was supported by Middle Easteners everywhere. That is where Islamic fundamentalism started to have deep influence everywhere else in the Middl East and it popped out other religious radicals like Hamas and Hezbollah in the 80s. Radical and militant Islam was starting to take over the socialist or nationalist secular forms of political ideology in the Middle East and seen as the new tool to fight what they saw as foreign occupiers and invaders from Western governments, rather than it is because they want to destroy the Western, secular, and Christian way of life and because they are jealous of their freedoms. But, in a way, it juxtaposed to identify themselves what they are not and play on their identity of saying I am Muslim and you will not destroy my way of life with your foreign meddling in our politics and lives.

Ok, so I just went on a tangent. Don't even know if what I wrote makes sense. Well, the first paragraph is probably what directly responds to your post.
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Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by sreggie101

Originally Posted by LoveOfTheGame916

this is just despicable. I cant believe my own country sometimes
smh.gif




this. i've been thinking this for a minute...life without religion > *



im startin to think of getting married (whenever that pops off) NOT in a church, and just cut to the chase and pay for a legal marriage license and just have a dope reception
grin.gif
...sheeeeeeeit, i can 'kiss the bride' anytime, if this is what religion is turning into in this country im not sure i wanna associate myself with it anymore.
Come on now.  You're basing your wedding plans due to an idiot Pastor that wants to burn the Koran? 

jones_terry_koran_397x224.jpg


I mean really? This guy up here speaks for all Christians?

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Personally I could care less if they burn the Koran, the Bible, or the US Flag.  These people can do whatever they want to do to make themselves happy. I am going to do ME and these people can do THEM.

What irritates me is the way the media is spinning this.  We all know it doesn't take much for these uneducated ignorant Muslims in the middle east to use this as propaganda to further their hatred of the West. 



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noted on the wedding. its just its pissing me off the way religion is being used these days in society; like it does more harm than good...am i wrong in thinking this, if you take into account how much hate is being circulated around the world directly because of religious beliefs?
 
Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by sreggie101

Originally Posted by LoveOfTheGame916

this is just despicable. I cant believe my own country sometimes
smh.gif




this. i've been thinking this for a minute...life without religion > *



im startin to think of getting married (whenever that pops off) NOT in a church, and just cut to the chase and pay for a legal marriage license and just have a dope reception
grin.gif
...sheeeeeeeit, i can 'kiss the bride' anytime, if this is what religion is turning into in this country im not sure i wanna associate myself with it anymore.
Come on now.  You're basing your wedding plans due to an idiot Pastor that wants to burn the Koran? 

jones_terry_koran_397x224.jpg


I mean really? This guy up here speaks for all Christians?

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Personally I could care less if they burn the Koran, the Bible, or the US Flag.  These people can do whatever they want to do to make themselves happy. I am going to do ME and these people can do THEM.

What irritates me is the way the media is spinning this.  We all know it doesn't take much for these uneducated ignorant Muslims in the middle east to use this as propaganda to further their hatred of the West. 



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noted on the wedding. its just its pissing me off the way religion is being used these days in society; like it does more harm than good...am i wrong in thinking this, if you take into account how much hate is being circulated around the world directly because of religious beliefs?
 
Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey

Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

yeah we are America, you can practice any religion you want. you can also burn any book you want too even if its not the right thing to do

But, then where is the limit? When is it acceptable to accept intolerant and prejudice acts that spearhead hate speech against a certain group of individuals? There is a very fine line between freedom of expression and hate speech.
  
dont really concern myself with limits. if its legal then its allowed even though i dont like it.
 
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