On September 11th they are going to burn a Koran in NYC (serious)

Originally Posted by C5A5D5A5

Let me one more time son you

Proverbs 29:9 says, "Don’t argue with a fool."
"Don't argue with a fool. The spectators can't tell the difference." - Charles J. Nalin

Check what I said before: "That saying that was created long before Jay-Z uttered it was created for people like you"


You make a statement before you do any research......????? Of course you did.
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thats rich. I take it you discovered the quote on you own right? Because of your passion for christianity. Hah, yea right.

How big of a whole would you like to dig?

A WHOLE?  You mean HOLE.... Irrelevant.....  But I will keep digging for you, and make sure you have a rock to rest on...   I take it you assume to know about people's acquisition of knowledge, through a Glenn Beck chalkboard right, or some other vague conspiracy?  You have no clue what I do know or how I know it......But if you must know it's called research... Research have you tried it? Where the mind gets intellectually stimulated and therefore a person goes on a quest for information...


But one more piece of advice for you via Abe Lincoln "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
 
Originally Posted by C5A5D5A5

Let me one more time son you

Proverbs 29:9 says, "Don’t argue with a fool."
"Don't argue with a fool. The spectators can't tell the difference." - Charles J. Nalin

Check what I said before: "That saying that was created long before Jay-Z uttered it was created for people like you"


You make a statement before you do any research......????? Of course you did.
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thats rich. I take it you discovered the quote on you own right? Because of your passion for christianity. Hah, yea right.

How big of a whole would you like to dig?

A WHOLE?  You mean HOLE.... Irrelevant.....  But I will keep digging for you, and make sure you have a rock to rest on...   I take it you assume to know about people's acquisition of knowledge, through a Glenn Beck chalkboard right, or some other vague conspiracy?  You have no clue what I do know or how I know it......But if you must know it's called research... Research have you tried it? Where the mind gets intellectually stimulated and therefore a person goes on a quest for information...


But one more piece of advice for you via Abe Lincoln "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
 
I don't understand why we americans are so catering to the muslim faith, it's as if being muslim is the new black (yes i'm black)...now, i have nothing against islam...but is it wrong, for a country who's roots are deeply ground in the Christian faith to not want to accept another religion? Now, i'm not 100% sure but i bet saudi arabia isn't as welcoming to the Christian faith as we are to the muslim faith. Again, let me reiterate, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ISLAM.
 
I don't understand why we americans are so catering to the muslim faith, it's as if being muslim is the new black (yes i'm black)...now, i have nothing against islam...but is it wrong, for a country who's roots are deeply ground in the Christian faith to not want to accept another religion? Now, i'm not 100% sure but i bet saudi arabia isn't as welcoming to the Christian faith as we are to the muslim faith. Again, let me reiterate, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ISLAM.
 
Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

I don't understand why we americans are so catering to the muslim faith, it's as if being muslim is the new black (yes i'm black)...now, i have nothing against islam...but is it wrong, for a country who's roots are deeply ground in the Christian faith to not want to accept another religion? Now, i'm not 100% sure but i bet saudi arabia isn't as welcoming to the Christian faith as we are to the muslim faith. Again, let me reiterate, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ISLAM.
Do you really think Americans CATER to the muslim faith?  Of course not.

You see, we have this thing in a America called the Bill of Rights.  It calls for freedom of religion.  Saudi Arabia does not have anything like this.  And for the record, you do have something against Islam.
 
Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

I don't understand why we americans are so catering to the muslim faith, it's as if being muslim is the new black (yes i'm black)...now, i have nothing against islam...but is it wrong, for a country who's roots are deeply ground in the Christian faith to not want to accept another religion? Now, i'm not 100% sure but i bet saudi arabia isn't as welcoming to the Christian faith as we are to the muslim faith. Again, let me reiterate, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ISLAM.
Do you really think Americans CATER to the muslim faith?  Of course not.

You see, we have this thing in a America called the Bill of Rights.  It calls for freedom of religion.  Saudi Arabia does not have anything like this.  And for the record, you do have something against Islam.
 
Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

I don't understand why we americans are so catering to the muslim faith, it's as if being muslim is the new black (yes i'm black)...now, i have nothing against islam...but is it wrong, for a country who's roots are deeply ground in the Christian faith to not want to accept another religion? Now, i'm not 100% sure but i bet saudi arabia isn't as welcoming to the Christian faith as we are to the muslim faith. Again, let me reiterate, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ISLAM.

co-sign.
 
Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

I don't understand why we americans are so catering to the muslim faith, it's as if being muslim is the new black (yes i'm black)...now, i have nothing against islam...but is it wrong, for a country who's roots are deeply ground in the Christian faith to not want to accept another religion? Now, i'm not 100% sure but i bet saudi arabia isn't as welcoming to the Christian faith as we are to the muslim faith. Again, let me reiterate, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ISLAM.

co-sign.
 
Originally Posted by C5A5D5A5

ah yes..when you have no leg to stand on, attack a misspell .

Well I let 4 or 5 of them go already...  And yes because you have clearly won this discussion already..


"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK
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Originally Posted by C5A5D5A5

ah yes..when you have no leg to stand on, attack a misspell .

Well I let 4 or 5 of them go already...  And yes because you have clearly won this discussion already..


"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" - MLK
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Thas gotta be the dumbest comment in this thread. We've already covered that point already, were not Saudi Arabia, were not Israel, were not Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan - WERE AMERICA.
There is a reason why we welcome all religions. Because we built our foundation on freedom of speech, religion, and freedom to do what is legal under the constitution. No one is being sentimental to the Islam faith, but we are being unfair. To attempt to falsely exploit ones beliefs while disregarding those who are truly good people is obscured. There's bad people in all faiths. We have gang members who terrorize neighboorhoods accross America who claim Christian and Catholic faith yet we disregard their religion in terms if negligence. That's hypocritical.
 
Thas gotta be the dumbest comment in this thread. We've already covered that point already, were not Saudi Arabia, were not Israel, were not Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan - WERE AMERICA.
There is a reason why we welcome all religions. Because we built our foundation on freedom of speech, religion, and freedom to do what is legal under the constitution. No one is being sentimental to the Islam faith, but we are being unfair. To attempt to falsely exploit ones beliefs while disregarding those who are truly good people is obscured. There's bad people in all faiths. We have gang members who terrorize neighboorhoods accross America who claim Christian and Catholic faith yet we disregard their religion in terms if negligence. That's hypocritical.
 
America wasn't founded on Christianity. we don't have a national religion or language. i have no idea where you got that from.





One of the most common statements from the "Religious Right" is that they want this country to "return to the Christian principles on which it was founded". However, a little research into American history will show that this statement is a lie. The men responsible for building the foundation of the United States had little use for Christianity, and many were strongly opposed to it. They were men of The Enlightenment, not men of Christianity. They were Deists who did not believe the bible was true.

When the Founders wrote the nation's Constitution, they specified that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article 6, section 3) This provision was radical in its day-- giving equal citizenship to believers and non-believers alike. They wanted to ensure that no single religion could make the claim of being the official, national religion, such as England had. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention religion, except in exclusionary terms. The words "Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, and God" are never mentioned in the Constitution-- not once.

The Declaration of Independence gives us important insight into the opinions of the Founding Fathers. Thomas Jefferson wrote that the power of the government is derived from the governed. Up until that time, it was claimed that kings ruled nations by the authority of God. The Declaration was a radical departure from the idea of divine authority.

The 1796 treaty with Tripoli states that the United States was "in no sense founded on the Christian religion" (see below). This was not an idle statement, meant to satisfy muslims-- they believed it and meant it. This treaty was written under the presidency of George Washington and signed under the presidency of John Adams.

None of the Founding Fathers were atheists. Most of the Founders were Deists, which is to say they thought the universe had a creator, but that he does not concern himself with the daily lives of humans, and does not directly communicate with humans, either by revelation or by sacred books. They spoke often of God, (Nature's God or the God of Nature), but this was not the God of the bible. They did not deny that there was a person called Jesus, and praised him for his benevolent teachings, but they flatly denied his divinity. Some people speculate that if Charles Darwin had lived a century earlier, the Founding Fathers would have had a basis for accepting naturalistic origins of life, and they would have been atheists. Most of them were stoutly opposed to the bible, and the teachings of Christianity in particular.
 
America wasn't founded on Christianity. we don't have a national religion or language. i have no idea where you got that from.





One of the most common statements from the "Religious Right" is that they want this country to "return to the Christian principles on which it was founded". However, a little research into American history will show that this statement is a lie. The men responsible for building the foundation of the United States had little use for Christianity, and many were strongly opposed to it. They were men of The Enlightenment, not men of Christianity. They were Deists who did not believe the bible was true.

When the Founders wrote the nation's Constitution, they specified that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article 6, section 3) This provision was radical in its day-- giving equal citizenship to believers and non-believers alike. They wanted to ensure that no single religion could make the claim of being the official, national religion, such as England had. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention religion, except in exclusionary terms. The words "Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, and God" are never mentioned in the Constitution-- not once.

The Declaration of Independence gives us important insight into the opinions of the Founding Fathers. Thomas Jefferson wrote that the power of the government is derived from the governed. Up until that time, it was claimed that kings ruled nations by the authority of God. The Declaration was a radical departure from the idea of divine authority.

The 1796 treaty with Tripoli states that the United States was "in no sense founded on the Christian religion" (see below). This was not an idle statement, meant to satisfy muslims-- they believed it and meant it. This treaty was written under the presidency of George Washington and signed under the presidency of John Adams.

None of the Founding Fathers were atheists. Most of the Founders were Deists, which is to say they thought the universe had a creator, but that he does not concern himself with the daily lives of humans, and does not directly communicate with humans, either by revelation or by sacred books. They spoke often of God, (Nature's God or the God of Nature), but this was not the God of the bible. They did not deny that there was a person called Jesus, and praised him for his benevolent teachings, but they flatly denied his divinity. Some people speculate that if Charles Darwin had lived a century earlier, the Founding Fathers would have had a basis for accepting naturalistic origins of life, and they would have been atheists. Most of them were stoutly opposed to the bible, and the teachings of Christianity in particular.
 
America needs to take a queue from France and Italy and put a stop to all this Muslim drama. Seriously. The only seem to cause problems and  have tore up the beauty which is Western Europe YO.
 
America needs to take a queue from France and Italy and put a stop to all this Muslim drama. Seriously. The only seem to cause problems and  have tore up the beauty which is Western Europe YO.
 
Originally Posted by ohdannyboy

I don't understand why we americans are so catering to the muslim faith, it's as if being muslim is the new black (yes i'm black)...now, i have nothing against islam...but is it wrong, for a country who's roots are deeply ground in the Christian faith to not want to accept another religion? Now, i'm not 100% sure but i bet saudi arabia isn't as welcoming to the Christian faith as we are to the muslim faith. Again, let me reiterate, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ISLAM.
Ok the country doesn't have to accept it but this country doesn't have to go burn the Koran either. That's straight up disrespectful.
there's nothing wrong with being respectful and accepting another religion into the country. That doesn't mean the US is about to turn into a Muslim country or anything. It's all about respect.

Whoever takes part in the burning of the Koran and/or supports it, should burn slowly in hell.
 
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