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Originally Posted by swyftdahoe
Jordan and Pippen won 12 rings between them. Bron and Wade only got 3 so far.
If you want to crown them, then crown their @%$!
Parable: Jordan/ Pippen = Batman/ Robin...James/ Wade = Superman/ Batman? (Potentially?)
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If you want to crown them, then crown their @%$!
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Originally Posted by swyftdahoe
Jordan and Pippen won 12 rings between them. Bron and Wade only got 3 so far.
If you want to crown them, then crown their @%$!
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You realize that when MJ was LeBron's age he had exactly ZERO rings, right? When MJ was LeBron's age he had never even been to the finals. LeBron at 26 is actually more accomplished in the NBA than MJ at 26. Assuming LeBron doesn't have any career ending injuries, he's got at least 8-10 seasons left in him. In the span of 10 years, guys like Kobe and Duncan have been able to win 5 and 4 rings respectively. For the Heat to win 4-6 championships wouldn't be unheard of by any means. If they win a chip this year, LeBron will continue to be ahead of MJ's accomplishments and the same age.
Dwyane Wade is another monster. Assuming he's the Pippen of the situation, I'd say he's definitely on track to being a better player than Scottie was. He'll retire a couple years before LeBron does, but this Heat franchise is on track to become a dominant force for the next 8 seasons. I expect the roster to be even better next season, and possibly even having Pat Riley having a greater influence on the coaching aspects. Miami is going to be a very desirable destination for future free agents. It's not like when the Boston big 3 got together in their 30's over a decade into their careers. This is a young athletic team that players hungry for a championship will find very attractive.
Do I think they will match the 90's Bulls? Who knows? Nobody can know that. It is reasonable though.
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You realize that when MJ was LeBron's age he had exactly ZERO rings, right? When MJ was LeBron's age he had never even been to the finals. LeBron at 26 is actually more accomplished in the NBA than MJ at 26. Assuming LeBron doesn't have any career ending injuries, he's got at least 8-10 seasons left in him. In the span of 10 years, guys like Kobe and Duncan have been able to win 5 and 4 rings respectively. For the Heat to win 4-6 championships wouldn't be unheard of by any means. If they win a chip this year, LeBron will continue to be ahead of MJ's accomplishments and the same age.
Dwyane Wade is another monster. Assuming he's the Pippen of the situation, I'd say he's definitely on track to being a better player than Scottie was. He'll retire a couple years before LeBron does, but this Heat franchise is on track to become a dominant force for the next 8 seasons. I expect the roster to be even better next season, and possibly even having Pat Riley having a greater influence on the coaching aspects. Miami is going to be a very desirable destination for future free agents. It's not like when the Boston big 3 got together in their 30's over a decade into their careers. This is a young athletic team that players hungry for a championship will find very attractive.
Do I think they will match the 90's Bulls? Who knows? Nobody can know that. It is reasonable though.
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Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Originally Posted by swyftdahoe
Jordan and Pippen won 12 rings between them. Bron and Wade only got 3 so far.
If you want to crown them, then crown their @%$!
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Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Originally Posted by swyftdahoe
Jordan and Pippen won 12 rings between them. Bron and Wade only got 3 so far.
If you want to crown them, then crown their @%$!
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Wade will always have One more ring than LeBron. Since your comparing age to Michael, Michael won his first ring after being in the league for 7 years, last year was the end of LeBrons 7th season. Kobe is only 32 years old but he looks like he's 35 out there now, those extra years of NBA basketball took a toll on those legs, but what makes MJ/KB so unique is the fact that they can lose a step but still score at will (fadaways, jumpshot, etc). LeBron will need to develop a game that he has still yet to approach, which is; scoring without athleticism. Thats why overall, I believe Jordan was a better scorer and will always be. Lebron however is a better passer and thats going to carry him further than his scoring ever will. I bet Jordan regrets taking those years off to play baseball because their is no doubt in my mind he would have won 8 championships, to be honest he could have won 8-10 if he retired in 2000 (for the first time
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Wade will always have One more ring than LeBron. Since your comparing age to Michael, Michael won his first ring after being in the league for 7 years, last year was the end of LeBrons 7th season. Kobe is only 32 years old but he looks like he's 35 out there now, those extra years of NBA basketball took a toll on those legs, but what makes MJ/KB so unique is the fact that they can lose a step but still score at will (fadaways, jumpshot, etc). LeBron will need to develop a game that he has still yet to approach, which is; scoring without athleticism. Thats why overall, I believe Jordan was a better scorer and will always be. Lebron however is a better passer and thats going to carry him further than his scoring ever will. I bet Jordan regrets taking those years off to play baseball because their is no doubt in my mind he would have won 8 championships, to be honest he could have won 8-10 if he retired in 2000 (for the first time
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OnionSlice, years of experience, not age, matters.
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OnionSlice, years of experience, not age, matters.
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I was watching Game 5 of the 1991 NBA Finals. This game looks very similar to Game 1 of the Heat vs. Mavs, Yes we know the Mavs won, that isn't my point here. The open court speed/dominance of Jordan and Pippen look very similar to what we saw from Wade and LeBron. I am not saying LeBron/Wade > Jordan/Pippen. I am just saying in the open court, both duos are so fun to watch.
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I was watching Game 5 of the 1991 NBA Finals. This game looks very similar to Game 1 of the Heat vs. Mavs, Yes we know the Mavs won, that isn't my point here. The open court speed/dominance of Jordan and Pippen look very similar to what we saw from Wade and LeBron. I am not saying LeBron/Wade > Jordan/Pippen. I am just saying in the open court, both duos are so fun to watch.
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DCAllAmerican:
How can LeBron and Wade be considered a better DUO than Jordan and Pippen?
On paper, but in terms of production, I can't see them ever winning 6 ring.
I can. In their FIRST year together, they went to the Finals. I'm not saying that they'll automatically improve next year (meaning: win the championship). I'm simply reminding that in year ONE, they went to the Finals.
I can definitely see the Heat continuing to make better decisions, year in and year out, to the point where 10 years from now, both of those two are finally winding their careers down, rounding out the tens of thousands of pts/boards/dimes they'll rack up... and we're saying "Damn, they destroyed this decade.6 titles? Alright, who's next?"
I can definitely see that.
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DCAllAmerican:
How can LeBron and Wade be considered a better DUO than Jordan and Pippen?
On paper, but in terms of production, I can't see them ever winning 6 ring.
I can. In their FIRST year together, they went to the Finals. I'm not saying that they'll automatically improve next year (meaning: win the championship). I'm simply reminding that in year ONE, they went to the Finals.
I can definitely see the Heat continuing to make better decisions, year in and year out, to the point where 10 years from now, both of those two are finally winding their careers down, rounding out the tens of thousands of pts/boards/dimes they'll rack up... and we're saying "Damn, they destroyed this decade.6 titles? Alright, who's next?"
I can definitely see that.
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i really love how you stole my comparison OP.
straight jackin.
straight jackin.
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i really love how you stole my comparison OP.
straight jackin.
straight jackin.
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Eh, too much has to happen right for them to win 6 rings though. That is asking for a lot.
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Eh, too much has to happen right for them to win 6 rings though. That is asking for a lot.
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Yea, sorry but... MJ/Pippen = 6 rings together.
Lebron and Wade wont even be on the same team for 6 years let alone win that many rings.
Some people smh
Lebron and Wade wont even be on the same team for 6 years let alone win that many rings.
Some people smh
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Yea, sorry but... MJ/Pippen = 6 rings together.
Lebron and Wade wont even be on the same team for 6 years let alone win that many rings.
Some people smh
Lebron and Wade wont even be on the same team for 6 years let alone win that many rings.
Some people smh
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I can. In their FIRST year together, they went to the Finals. I'm not saying that they'll automatically improve next year (meaning: win the championship). I'm simply reminding that in year ONE, they went to the Finals.
I can definitely see the Heat continuing to make better decisions, year in and year out, to the point where 10 years from now, both of those two are finally winding their careers down, rounding out the tens of thousands of pts/boards/dimes they'll rack up... and we're saying "Damn, they destroyed this decade.
I can definitely see that.
six though? i don't see how anyone could predict that when they haven't even won one yet. i don't see it.
i'm not saying it's impossible, but at this point even saying it is just fanatical imo.
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DCAllAmerican:
Eh, too much has to happen right for them to win 6 rings though. That is asking for a lot.
Oh, definitely. Don' get me wrong; I'm not saying 'book it! They're GOING to win 6... MINIMUM!"
NO, no... I'm simply saying I can see it. If they have 5+ titles 12-13 years from now, I will NOT be one of the ones saying "Well damn, they did it. I am completely shocked."
As far as predictions go as a duo, I'll go... 2. If I were to bet the farm on a number, I'd bet on 2.
I just know they won't go ringless as a tandem. That's just not happening.Like I said, year ONE got them to the Finals.
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I can. In their FIRST year together, they went to the Finals. I'm not saying that they'll automatically improve next year (meaning: win the championship). I'm simply reminding that in year ONE, they went to the Finals.
I can definitely see the Heat continuing to make better decisions, year in and year out, to the point where 10 years from now, both of those two are finally winding their careers down, rounding out the tens of thousands of pts/boards/dimes they'll rack up... and we're saying "Damn, they destroyed this decade.
I can definitely see that.
six though? i don't see how anyone could predict that when they haven't even won one yet. i don't see it.
i'm not saying it's impossible, but at this point even saying it is just fanatical imo.