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Rs7 is such a beautiful beast. If i had 100k plus for a car the rs7 will the the car for me.
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My personal opinion when I see things like “on the track it’s xx.xx faster or can take a corner”. I honestly could care less what it does on a corner, drag races have an amazing thrill and even when in Mexico it’s awesome seeing one car walk another. I’m probably biased since in florida there’s no canyon runs or winding roads but still
At this price point tho, it’s all about preference.
The only remotely intelligent thing said in the past couple of pages
Y'all trying to make a quick $10K? What kind of person does this tho? Jealousy is hell of a drug.
http://www.carscoops.com/2017/11/someone-thrashed-this-guys-new-bmw-i8.html
I don't give a damn about your BMW card. Take it. I am not a fan boy to any car maker.
I preferred E93/E60 to what they have out now. The E39 M5 is probably in my top 5 favorite cars since my pops used to have one and that's the car I learned how to drive on. I have driven Bimmers since I was 16 since my whole family drove and still drives BMW. I stepped out of line and got an S4 when i graduated and then got 3 series. Got rid of both of them and hoping to get an S6 or something along that line in the next year or so.
The fact of the matter is the RS7/E63s>>M6 as far as performance. Another matter of fact, you can make the E63s Rwd at the touch of a button if you want. I assume we are talking about the M6 Grand Coupe here and even then I would still take the CLS AMG 63s over it. All these cars are incredible but BMW is in 3rd place right now as far as the Germans go.
What the hell.
that’s fine if that’s his or yours opinion but I just posted receipts of why that’s not true.
Give me real rebuttals and receipts without any bias and we can have a civil discussion. I love all 3 by the way. I’m just not a fanboy of one in particular.
I like the MQB Audi platform better than the BMW platform, for both cost and tune-ability. Audi is better than MB in my book just off depreciation and repairs unless your leasing. Design wise nobody is touching MB on Interior. Audi is probably the most boring of the 3 exteriors. They got the TTRS right in this generation but the other cars are just more and more boxy. The 1st gen R8 curves still look better to me than the angles on this gen. A/S/RS7 pretty much the only series that looks good.
First paragraph is facts.People are cracking 500-700 hp in their s4 with only stage 2 tunes. The RS models can get to 900-1000hp with just tunes as well
What do you mean when you say performance? 0-60? Quarter mile? Top speed? Track? The only current model that bmw has that might have a slight edge on its Audi competitor is the M3/M4 and that’s not even in every category.
Audi doesn’t have a direct competitor to the M5 in the states but if you want to compare the RS6 to the M5 then it’s really just a wash. Off a dead stop the Audi wins but a rolling start the M5 wins. I don't know enough information to compare the 7 series vs the Audi A8 . Even tho I think the s-class murders both. And I don’t care about the SUVs to compare them either and BMW doesn’t have a competitor to the R8.
I’m not here to change opinions either. I can’t tell another man how to feel but you have to have facts and receipts when you compare the two.
while 95% of i8 drivers i've seen are tools and whoever this guy is probably had it coming... You cant vandalize a mans car. It's just Foul.
what are your gripes of the last few pages?
People are trying to argue the track capabilities of 4,500lb luxury sport sedans (which is absurd to begin with) as though they're skilled enough drivers themselves to notice any discernible differences between either of the cars. I can assure you that no one here can take these cars beyond 6/10ths what they're capable of, which renders this entire argument moot.
People are also trying to argue the performance of these cars. There's a point when performance figures become nothing more than a data point journalists cite in their articles, and I can assure you as someone who's logged thousands of miles behind the wheel of some of these cars (F10 M5), this generation of car is WELL past that. The sad reality is that today this class of car has become nothing more than an exercise in over-engineering, rather than an exercise in actually building something that is genuinely enjoyable to drive (rare examples from the German "Big 3" would be something like the M2). Cars themselves have almost become like driving simulators, reducing the amount of driver input needed to almost nothing (Tesla Autopilot for example).
What's even more sad is dwelling on this is an exercise in futility due to tightened emission regulations and things of that nature. One personal goal I set for myself was to order the next generation (992) GT3 or GT3RS and do Euro Delivery, but Porsche no longer allows North American customers to do that (I believe BMW and Benz have just disallowed it as well). As an automotive enthusiast I just can't help but be sad about the direction things are headed. The car of yesterday is all but extinct which is why I guess I should consider myself lucky to own one of the last truly great analog sports cars