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I’ve driven sq7 a good amount. I know what they are.Agile for a 3 row SUV. You'd be surprised.
Im not comparing it to an M2.
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Higher performing car in what category, the Z is faster around the track, in test it either beats the Supra or ties it. Do you own the new Z4 or Supra, because almost every review says the Supra is just a rebadged Z4. I am going to trust reviewers with more behind the wheel time, unless you own either and are putting it through it's paces. Selling well and having "tons" of people modify it doesn't speak highly of the car. Using nostalgia as a selling point I'm sure has nothing to do with it selling right. Tons have modified Civics, and tons have sold.
Why are you mentioning the GT-R or the NSX neither have anything to do with the conversation. If you are trying to compare performance numbers of the GT-R and Supra, that isn't even close. Ancient performance numbers of a car that only gets minor upgrades in the GT-R versus the Supra Toyota just picked up from the BMW store and changed a couple things.
I won't go so far as the Supra is the Great Value Z4. However it certainly isn't the car people were expecting when they heard a new Supra was coming out. Toyota botched it and is only now trying to fix it. Yeah, they upped the horsepower the very next year it was released. Yeah they are offering a manual. They could have released the car day one with this, I'm good.
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My god did you even read the link you posted? lol
This is the best version in the Z's storied history, but the Toyota GR Supra simply outmatches it. While styling may be subjective, resistance to the Supra's exterior design may be enough to drive some shoppers to the Z, however.
In every other way, the Supra wins the bout as the superior sports car. As much as the Z is better than the 370Z it replaces, it's more of a "sporty" car compared to the Supra. Perhaps a future higher-performing Nismo Z could help even the scorecards, but it's unlikely that will correct the interior missteps. To wrap it all up in a final boxing metaphor, the Z is swinging wildly hoping for a lucky knockout, while the Supra confidently lands unanswered precision strikes.
. I’ve driven many Supras, tracked them and driven the Z4. Need to drive the new Z.
2023 Nissan Z vs. Toyota GR Supra Comparison Test: The ’80s Are Calling
It's Z against Supra in a battle for supremacy among new sports cars with old names.
Another comparison the Supra destroys the Z. Like the performance isn’t close. Mind you I still LOVE the Z and glad it’s here. But it’s more a refresh it’s not an all new car.
In Summary
Supra is lighter
Supra is faster
Supra brakes better
Supra has high skidpad numbers
Supra has better steering
Supra has better handling
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Nods ain't enough for me, BMW is just a toned down Z4. That ain't the move for me. Toyota let BMW hit them with the okey doke, gave them an older engine in there joint venture. Concept looked way better than finished product. Performance test for new Z are not looking to good when compared to competition.
Tested: 2023 Nissan Z Performance vs. 2022 Toyota GR Supra 3.0 Premium
The revived Nissan Z goes toe to toe with the Toyota Supra.www.caranddriver.com
Not the article I was looking for, recall a YouTube video with the Z and other new cars.
Performance aside, how you gonna call it anything other than a Supra considering how it looks though?
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Wifes SQ7 is a beast and far more agile than the X7 M50i I had and definitely more comfortable on road than the X5M.
I can agree most S are not on par with competitors overall but there are some things Audi does very well and sometimes better.
Personally, I prefer their understated designs.
hows the overall interior and features? it looks great, congrats on the purchase
Im considering one of these for myself once I take my XC90 back, also looking at X5's and additional 3 row SUVs
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She’s had it for 1.5 now and funny enough she came from an XC90 we had picked up in Sweden. We thought we that was one we were going to keep for the long haul but the Sensus system was super laggy and quirky. We also had opted for the spring suspension RDesign w/22’s and the ride was near comparable to a Jeep Wrangler. We actually like the dual screen on the Audi and don’t mind the lack of hard buttons. Seats are comfortable and plenty of room for the 2 car seats in the back and ample cargo area. Only thing it does lack is storage in the front seats and it would be nice if captains chairs were in option in the second row. If we were to buy now I’d give the GLS a hard look.
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None. None of them are agile. It’s a ****ing yacht for christs sake. It’s not a fun car to do anything but go fast straight, like I said originally.Sure you have. ...a good amount.
What other 3 row SUV would be just as agile?
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SUV
Btw ..dont you drive the small mans SUV? aka X3?
Listen man ..we cant all be 5'8" and wear a size 9.
I have a 3 ton freaking pickup truck but put that MFer on the right course and it's an agile SOB.
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Sigh must have rustled some new Supra fanboys today.My god did you even read the link you posted? lol
This is the best version in the Z's storied history, but the Toyota GR Supra simply outmatches it. While styling may be subjective, resistance to the Supra's exterior design may be enough to drive some shoppers to the Z, however.
In every other way, the Supra wins the bout as the superior sports car. As much as the Z is better than the 370Z it replaces, it's more of a "sporty" car compared to the Supra. Perhaps a future higher-performing Nismo Z could help even the scorecards, but it's unlikely that will correct the interior missteps. To wrap it all up in a final boxing metaphor, the Z is swinging wildly hoping for a lucky knockout, while the Supra confidently lands unanswered precision strikes.
. I’ve driven many Supras, tracked them and driven the Z4. Need to drive the new Z.
2023 Nissan Z vs. Toyota GR Supra Comparison Test: The ’80s Are Calling
It's Z against Supra in a battle for supremacy among new sports cars with old names.www.motortrend.com
Another comparison the Supra destroys the Z. Like the performance isn’t close. Mind you I still LOVE the Z and glad it’s here. But it’s more a refresh it’s not an all new car.
In Summary
Supra is lighter
Supra is faster
Supra brakes better
Supra has high skidpad numbers
Supra has better steering
Supra has better handling
"My god did you even read the link you posted? lol"
Did you even read my post comparing the Z4 to the Supra? I even said in my post "Performance test for the new Z are not looking good when compared to competition." Thank you for doing the legwork and pointing out the new Supra is better than the new Nissan Z. I was never debating that.
Nods ain't enough for me, BMW is just a toned down Z4. That ain't the move for me. Toyota let BMW hit them with the okey doke, gave them an older engine in there joint venture. Concept looked way better than finished product. Performance test for new Z are not looking to good when compared to competition.
Tested: 2023 Nissan Z Performance vs. 2022 Toyota GR Supra 3.0 Premium
The revived Nissan Z goes toe to toe with the Toyota Supra.
Not the article I was looking for, recall a YouTube video with the Z and other new cars.
Original FT-86 was planned for Toyota, they eventually decided to give the car to Scion and call it the FR-S. Names and branding can easily be changed.Performance aside, how you gonna call it anything other than a Supra considering how it looks though?
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I get it but people would clearly say this is the new Supra regardless of name. Just look at the headlights, thats all you need to see.
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FWIW I personally think the new Supra is a sexyass car. I've only seen it less than a handful of times in real-life & it looked great in every color I saw it:yellow, red, white & Grey. Broke my neck everytime. If I had the $ I would buy the Supra w/o a 2nd thought.
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i want a daily driver not sure what to get
part of me is like **** it just go for a panamera and the other part of me is like chill just spend 30k
then im like i can spend 40-45k and get an audi a8 so my mind just keeps going in circles
Go for what you really like and love. Get that Panamera…under warranty of course
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its spicy in here i like it
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Go for what you really like and love. Get that Panamera…under warranty of course
ehhh thats what deters memight go lexus
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Need to get Turismo though. That’s one bad mfer.Go for what you really like and love. Get that Panamera…under warranty of course
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THEM BOATS DODGE PUTS OUT ARE SLOW TOO
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Bro said bmw gave the Supra the older engine?? It got the b58 all the 2022 bmws got it
he's not technically wrong, since the B58 came out in 2015? but you're right, the current non-M cars still use the B58
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Used to drive an X3m but have an m3 now, keep up. Not surprising you turning this into some insecure “big man” contest or whatever it is you are trying to do.
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dude is hella annoying. idk what y'all are arguing about, but ignored him a long time ago.
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He took it personally since I said S Audis are boring.
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i love ur m3 tbh <3Used to drive an X3m but have an m3 now, keep up. Not surprising you turning this into some insecure “big man” contest or whatever it is you are trying to do.
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Not at all. More so big SUV/ small SUV or small car.Used to drive an X3m but have an m3 now, keep up. Not surprising you turning this into some insecure “big man” contest or whatever it is you are trying to do.
You can’t say it’s not agile without a comparison. If you’re comparing it to like competitors it at or near the top.
Personally I wouldn’t be comfortable in anything smaller than a mid sized SUV because of having kids and their stuff.
