R.I.P Trayvon

[harlemtothebronx]

well im done
i was expecting to having a really good debate like I have with my buddies, but it seems like I am having a conversation with a bunch of dodo's.
I provided multiple articles, video, and pictures to support my objective statements, yet, I get a bunch of replies criticizing my supposedly low intelligence.

it was kinda fun tho, peace

I responded to you respectfully and with solid and sound reasoning a number of times and I have yet to get a response from you that made be rethink anything, and I'm more than willing to see it both ways as I have no clue what went down that night.

You're the one coming up short with your position and supporting it. You can't really believe what you're saying right now, can you?

 

[harlemtothebronx]

The type used for breaking and entering.

but could it be used as a shank?

did zimmerman know about this screwdriver?

Pretty much anything but it's intended purpose.

 

[bilboshmangins]

The type used for breaking and entering.

but could it be used as a shank?

did zimmerman know about this screwdriver?

Pretty much anything but it's intended purpose.

i guess zimmerman knew that trayvon was the type to carry a screwdriver for the sole purpose of shanking folk.So with that knowledge zim pursued  trayvon in anticipation ofshooting him in case trayvon brought out the shank? 

 

[thunderchunk69]

The type used for breaking and entering.

but could it be used as a shank?

did zimmerman know about this screwdriver?

Pretty much anything but it's intended purpose.

read the code of conduct, doesn't matter.

0 tolerance, yes, like a jail.

unless of course you went to a public high school with a different policy?
oh... just post emoticons then.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

The type used for breaking and entering.

but could it be used as a shank?

did zimmerman know about this screwdriver?

Pretty much anything but it's intended purpose.

read the code of conduct, doesn't matter.

0 tolerance, yes, like a jail.

unless of course you went to a public high school with a different policy?
oh... just post emoticons then.

There was no such policy in my high school. I don't know about anyone else's, but not mine.

I'm more interested on why we're discussing this as if it justifies or changs anything.

 

[bilboshmangins]

The type used for breaking and entering.

but could it be used as a shank?

did zimmerman know about this screwdriver?

Pretty much anything but it's intended purpose.

read the code of conduct, doesn't matter.

0 tolerance, yes, like a jail.

unless of course you went to a public high school with a different policy?
oh... just post emoticons then.

so he brought out the screwdriver when zimmerman came at him?

 

[jay6jay]

but if the trial is done, what are we talking about?

WE don't have to talk about anything you have been complaining about this thread since it began yet you keep coming back in here over and over again.

Just stop posting

 

[heliumclinton]

ok well i never said he robbed houses....just that it was a possibility

So the point of saying he had a screwdriver in a different city of Florida the night this incident took place was to point out having screwdriver means you're not a saint? I had no idea having a screwdriver in your possession could determine your character, I need to throw my screwdriver out.

 

[thunderchunk69]

The type used for breaking and entering.

but could it be used as a shank?

did zimmerman know about this screwdriver?

Pretty much anything but it's intended purpose.

read the code of conduct, doesn't matter.

0 tolerance, yes, like a jail.

unless of course you went to a public high school with a different policy?
oh... just post emoticons then.

There was no such policy in my high school. I don't know about anyone else's, but not mine.

I'm more interested on why we're discussing this as if it justifies or changs anything.

?

case is done, doesn't really matter, does it?

just proving you were all played by the media, something everyone hates... except this time no one wants to admit it.
you had a picture of a 14 year old, said he was too frail to fight zimmerman.. as if he didn't play football, was 17, and tall.

no one kept an open mind, half of you can't even answer simple questions. and I'm almost positive you couldn't have a screwdriver in your locker, dare you to call or post the HS you went to.
I'll find out myself.

 

[bilboshmangins]

The type used for breaking and entering.

but could it be used as a shank?

did zimmerman know about this screwdriver?

Pretty much anything but it's intended purpose.

read the code of conduct, doesn't matter.

0 tolerance, yes, like a jail.

unless of course you went to a public high school with a different policy?
oh... just post emoticons then.

There was no such policy in my high school. I don't know about anyone else's, but not mine.

I'm more interested on why we're discussing this as if it justifies or changs anything.

?

case is done, doesn't really matter, does it?

just proving you were all played by the media, something everyone hates... except this time no one wants to admit it.

no one kept an open mind, half of you can't even answer simple questions. and I'm almost positive you couldn't have a screwdriver in your locker, dare you to call or post the HS you went to.
I'll find out myself.

please record the call for us.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Look at his guy.

I went to a very small high school called Central Park East Secondary School. Its been 10 years since I graduated, and I don't even know if it still exists, let alone if there have been rules implemented over the last ten years, but you're free to call and find out if you like.

And after you're done I still wont understand why it's relevant.

And miss me with the 'played by the media' jargon. The same can be said for both sides of the argument, but you're clearly too emotional to see that.

 

[thunderchunk69]

I agree we all did stupid things when we were younger... yet you can't admit he might have swung first.
won't even give it a thought.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

A screwdriver in his school locker has nothing to do with the fact that he was walking home with a ice tea and skittles while Zimmerman was following him with a gun.

but if the trial is done, what are we talking about?

Son ya'll talking about a whole bunch of nothing. A damn screwdriver in his school locker.


So that means it was ok for you boy Zimmerman to follow this kid?


At least talk about something that makes sense.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

I agree we all did stupid things when we were younger... yet you can't admit he might have swung first.
won't even give it a thought.

Who are you talking to?

 

[bilboshmangins]

I agree we all did stupid things when we were younger... yet you can't admit he might have swung first.
won't even give it a thought.

if he did swing (first or second) what does have to do with anything?

 

[gllahone84]

http://www.sohh.com/2013/07/nas_says_guilt_ignorance_plague_america.html

 

[gllahone84]

I agree with the homie Nas...Guilt and ignorance plague America...note I put added emphasis on ignorance. 

 

[jay6jay]

Since when does stealing correlate with aggression. That's like saying George being a molester means he threw the first punch lol

 

[shoefreakbaby]

if he did swing (first or second) what does have to do with anything?

That is the problem some people don't think he had the right to defend himself.I don't think trayvon hit first because it doesn't make sense,but let say he did hit first.

Trayvon was walking at night and a guy is staring at him
That guy begins to walk behind him
Trayvon begins to walk faster
That guy walks faster
Trayvon begins to run
That guy runs.

GZ is following and he isn't saying anything, isn't asking "hey are you lost".He just keeps following him like a creep.

Let say GZ was following and stalking a female, what do you think her reaction would be.
Now as a female would she be in the wrong if i turns around and paper sprays GZ?
What is the difference between paper spraying someone and hitting them?


If you are following me and not speaking to me I will assume you want to harm me and I am going to try to prevent you from harming me. My first instinct is to run after I realize you are still after me what am I to do?

In trayvon's head this story could have ended in so many ways.What if GZ was a rapist or an abductor and wanted to kidnap him. First thing people would have said was " how you let that man catch you" "why didnt you realize he was following and attack him or something"

People refuse to understand that trayvon was scared for his life that night and I just don't see why. They refuse to put themselves in trayvon's shoes that night.Picture you being 17 and being followed at night by a MAN, what would run through your mind?





All this is bull though, Rachel testified to hearing trayvon say "why are you following me"
and unlike the jury I believe her.

 

[az102]

That is the problem some people don't think he had the right to defend himself.I don't think trayvon hit first because it doesn't make sense,but let say he did hit first.

Trayvon was walking at night and a guy is staring at him
That guy begins to walk behind him
Trayvon begins to walk faster
That guy walks faster
Trayvon begins to run
That guy runs.

GZ is following and he isn't saying anything, isn't asking "hey are you lost".He just keeps following him like a creep.

Let say GZ was following and stalking a female, what do you think her reaction would be.
Now as a female would she be in the wrong if i turns around and paper sprays GZ?
What is the difference between paper spraying someone and hitting them?


If you are following me and not speaking to me I will assume you want to harm me and I am going to try to prevent you from harming me. My first instinct is to run after I realize you are still after me what am I to do?

In trayvon's head this story could have ended in so many ways.What if GZ was a rapist or an abductor and wanted to kidnap him. First thing people would have said was " how you let that man catch you" "why didnt you realize he was following and attack him or something"

People refuse to understand that trayvon was scared for his life that night and I just don't see why. They refuse to put themselves in trayvon's shoes that night.Picture you being 17 and being followed at night by a MAN, what would run through your mind?





All this is bull though, Rachel testified to hearing trayvon say "why are you following me"
and unlike the jury I believe her.

Exactly. If someone is following you at night you have no idea what they want or what they will do. I actually believe that Martin threw the first punch. Who the hell wouldn't in that situation. Speaking on a moral basis it isn't fair that a person can follow someone, harass them to the point of aggression and then pull a pistol and kill them when they lose the fight. Those of you defending Zimmerman. Can you honestly say of this happened to your faintly member you wouldn't think this was an injustice?If it happened to someone you loved you would be screaming bloody murder.

 

[branjohn411]

RIP TRAY TRAY

 

[celticsfan9783]

Now as a female would she be in the wrong if i turns around and paper sprays GZ?
What is the difference between paper spraying someone and hitting them?

It may be illegal. Doesn't necessarily means she's "wrong." If I caught a bad vibe from someone, I'd react to keep myself out of imminent danger. I wouldn't stand around and wait for someone I perceived to be endangering me to act first simply because I feared the law. That would be idiotic.

Unfortunately for TM, the law is *** backwards in more ways than one.

 

[bilboshmangins]

if he did swing (first or second) what does have to do with anything?

That is the problem some people don't think he had the right to defend himself.I don't think trayvon hit first because it doesn't make sense,but let say he did hit first.

Trayvon was walking at night and a guy is staring at him
That guy begins to walk behind him
Trayvon begins to walk faster
That guy walks faster
Trayvon begins to run
That guy runs.

GZ is following and he isn't saying anything, isn't asking "hey are you lost".He just keeps following him like a creep.

Let say GZ was following and stalking a female, what do you think her reaction would be.
Now as a female would she be in the wrong if i turns around and paper sprays GZ?
What is the difference between paper spraying someone and hitting them?


If you are following me and not speaking to me I will assume you want to harm me and I am going to try to prevent you from harming me. My first instinct is to run after I realize you are still after me what am I to do?

In trayvon's head this story could have ended in so many ways.What if GZ was a rapist or an abductor and wanted to kidnap him. First thing people would have said was " how you let that man catch you" "why didnt you realize he was following and attack him or something"

People refuse to understand that trayvon was scared for his life that night and I just don't see why. They refuse to put themselves in trayvon's shoes that night.Picture you being 17 and being followed at night by a MAN, what would run through your mind?





All this is bull though, Rachel testified to hearing trayvon say "why are you following me"
and unlike the jury I believe her.

i wanted thunderchunk to answer this.

because he didn't just swing for no reason if he did swing.

 

[shoefreakbaby]

It may be illegal. Doesn't necessarily means she's "wrong." If I caught a bad vibe from someone, I'd react to keep myself out of imminent danger. I wouldn't stand around and wait for someone I perceived to be endangering me to act first simply because I feared the law. That would be idiotic.

Unfortunately for TM, the law is *** backwards in more ways than one.

I don't see a woman going to jail for pepper spraying someone.

"mam why did you pepper spray him'

"because he was following me"

"I wasn't following her , I was just going the same direction"



But in all honestly people don't care for men, especially black men.
We think males are fearless and dont need protection smh

 

[keko jones]

i wanted thunderchunk to answer this.

because he didn't just swing for no reason if he did swing.

like I said many times before ..

If TM hit first was because he was scare and for self defense ... However, this caused GZ to be scare and also protect himself (self defense). Thus, if TM would of have killed GZ, I bet he would of have been entitle to the same law and got off ..

Just sad that TM had to die - but not matter who killed who - the verdict in my opinion would of have been the same.