Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[Hahahaha]

It was always said in the 90s that certain labels were buying albums for huge first week sales so I'm not sure what the **** you're talking about kid. Not everyone had the internet and it wasn't what it is today so maybe not as many people knew but it was known that Def Jam and other labels had been buying CDs.

Streams are easier to manipulate and cheaper than buying CDs. French album hanging on by two singles streaming. His album flopped and got destroyed in the reviews. It came and went but the streaming scam is keeping it afloat. Same **** with Khaled.

 

[Peep Game]

It was always said in the 90s that certain labels were buying albums for huge first week sales so I'm not sure what the **** you're talking about kid. Not everyone had the internet and it wasn't what it is today so maybe not as many people knew but it was known that Def Jam and other labels had been buying CDs.

Streams are easier to manipulate and cheaper than buying CDs. French album hanging on by two singles streaming. His album flopped and got destroyed in the reviews. It came and went but the streaming scam is keeping it afloat. Same **** with Khaled.

I really need to know how much Diddy and every other person at Bad Boy are paying different media outlets to say overly positive things about French's album. You would think he dropped Blueprint the way people are tripping over themselves for it.

 

[Narcissist]

Never knew Def Jam did that. Probably where Jay got the ideas for MCHG & 4:44 being sold to cell phone companies

 

[alexody]

Streams are easier to manipulate and cheaper than buying CDs.

Yet Jay went platinum on both albums in the first week by having a "company" BUY the album in bulk

Mind you beside KDot and Drake nobody going platinum first month let alone first week

Both albums have a song on the BillBoard Top 10, of course they still have a heartbeat

 

[iamdef]

Dro snitched. Idk why ppl expect these "gangsta" rappers to live out their raps lol.

But you'll get clowned for living your bars too. See Bobby Schmurda

 

[Magic33]

Never knew Def Jam did that. Probably where Jay got the ideas for MCHG & 4:44 being sold to cell phone companies

It's not just a Def Jam thing. That was rumored to happen all the way back to the 50's and 60's. It's a music industry thing.

People won't question Adele or Taylor Swift's numbers though.

A record label can go back to a radio station and say well this artist is the hottest thing and blah blah bought the album. You should start playing the song more.

The label can get that money back from touring and actual album and single sales.

 

[americangenius]

what are y'all even arguing about
who cares about sells besides the artists or music company

People talk about it as if they are getting paid, **** never made sense to me. There's actually people getting sensitive about stream numbers!

 

[alexody]

People won't question Adele or Taylor Swift's numbers though.

Imo the labels take they time with those projects. They only drop every 2-3 years and when they do the first single is huge

 

[delete1234]

But you'll get clowned for living your bars too. See Bobby Schmurda

U right lol. Fickle "hip hop" fans don't know what they want.

 

[Magic33]

Imo the labels take they time with those projects. They only drop every 2-3 years and when they do the first single is huge

but I thought in our social media era where people have short attention spans, people quickly forget about you if you're not always in their face.

in other words, keep believing that they're different

 

[Deleted member 107398]

Adele came through and cleaned house with sales/awards and disappeared

 

[alexody]

but I thought in our social media era where people have short attention spans, people quickly forget about you if you're not always in their face.

in other words, keep believing that they're different

In the age of soundcloud rappers that maybe true
But nah not for them.
Spotify was damn near begging Taylor Swift for her catalogue when she aint drop nothin in two years

 

[kingfoamnyc]

All these new names got me feeling like Mr. Krabs, I don't like this **** I got aspergers

 

[Magic33]

In the age of soundcloud rappers that maybe true
But nah not for them.
Spotify was damn near begging Taylor Swift for her catalogue when she aint drop nothin in two years

Keep believing that b

The practice started with white and pop acts, because that's who the labels have more of an investment in.

You think they would do it with the acts they have hundreds of thousands in versus millions? The pop acts are what keep peoples jobs.

And they know many people won't even question it...case in point

 

[Narcissist]

It's not just a Def Jam thing. That was rumored to happen all the way back to the 50's and 60's. It's a music industry thing.

People won't question Adele or Taylor Swift's numbers though.

A record label can go back to a radio station and say well this artist is the hottest thing and blah blah bought the album. You should start playing the song more.

The label can get that money back from touring and actual album and single sales.

Labels have always bought radio time so you're right about that. Streaming is just the next scam. Get your money I guess

 

[kingfoamnyc]

All this **** is fraudulent. Just listen to what you like and stop championing dudes cause of their "sales"

 

[alexody]

Keep believing that b

The practice started with white and pop acts, because that's who the labels have more of an investment in.

You think they would do it with the acts they have hundreds of thousands in versus millions? The pop acts are what keep peoples jobs.

And they not many people won't even question it...case in point

Would you say the same for Frank Ocean??
Dude waited 4 years to drop his album, finessed the label dropped it independent and still did his best as far as numbers go

 

[All Ready]

damn all that

only thing I knew was the gas station test

everybody use to pull up to the gas station banging what they felt was the best music they had

or club parking lots if you were on the nightlife scene

there were people who would be heard everywhere you would pull up at

back when aftermarket sound systems ran the streets

 

[$tacy]

All this **** is fraudulent. Just listen to what you like and stop championing dudes cause of their "sales"

But how else will they claim their favorite rapper is the best when the music doesn't back it up?

 

[kingfoamnyc]

But how else will they claim their favorite rapper is the best when the music doesn't back it up?

Aux Cord Advocates need to just default to the tried and true "homie head knock meter"

50 head nods in a 3 1/2 minute song equates to the "hottest n_ in the game" label

Apply said label to whichever artist that fits the required criteria

 

[$tacy]

Aux Cord Advocates need to just default to the tried and true "homie head knock meter"

50 head nods in a 3 1/2 minute song equates to the "hottest n_ in the game" label

Apply said label to whichever artist that fits the required criteria

Let's just say... said song is moist boy music, pop rap type ****, do u count finger snaps or neck rolls?

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Let's just say... said song is moist boy music, pop rap type ****, do u count finger snaps or neck rolls?

A neck roll plus a snap at the same time automatically dubs the track a "classic"

#veryrare accomplishment only some have achieved

God tier level version incorporates a yaaassss while being performed

 

[definition of dopeness]

Yikes at that dro and spodee situation.

"Case still open that's why I don't be talking about this ****." Then proceeds to make multiple videos talking bout it.

Trip me out when rappers say "I don't do all this internet back and forth ****" and post fiftyleven videos on IG talking tough.


Someone had said in here Tidal didn't release Meeks numbers i just read that article. That was Tyler's beef, cause Tidal was going to include free streams, if they count YouTube streams now, why wouldn't free streams count? All this ish confusing, I just know whenever Tidal put their #s out ******* will follow.

 

[Magic33]

Was Meek's album promoted well?

Meek went from promoting DC 4 forever....to promoting DC 4.5....to dropping a couple of mini mixtapes to putting out an album

I didn't even know it was coming out until a week prior to it dropped. The same dude who was promoting a free mixtape for over a year.

Aux Cord Advocates need to just default to the tried and true "homie head knock meter"

50 head nods in a 3 1/2 minute song equates to the "hottest n_ in the game" label

Apply said label to whichever artist that fits the required criteria

I really hate this era

5 minutes after an album leaks or gets put on Apple, it's either garbage or classic

Then a week later the talk about the album doesn't continue, it's about how much it sold. Like it's a movie.

Rick Ross put out a good album, and it didn't sell too well according to peoples opinions. What does that mean? He's no longer hot? Or people don't have good taste in music? The label failed promoting it?

 

[VARNELL HILL]

It'll be interesting to see how long this business model lasts...

NONE of these services are turning any real profits. The only thing carrying them thus far has been the exclusives...and eventually that bubble will burst also.