Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[freddy fig]

If Lil Wayne wants to be a drug addict that's on him and we see the effects that drugs have had on him. If a kid sees the effects and still wants to sip this and pop that pill ain't nothing you can do. Even as a parent you can't watch over your kids 24/7 all you can do is tell 'em what it is and hope they make the best decision when go out into the world.

Kids are smarter than we give them credit for. They do dumb **** to fit. Adults do dumb **** to fit in.

People turn to drugs for different reasons. There's people that come from good environments that turn into addicts. There's people from terrible environments that choose not to.

FAXimus meridius

 

[tay1]

I still don't see ****** drinking lean causally like some think is going on. Only ****** with money.

 

[freddy fig]

Folks gotta talk to their kids about all this ****. A rappers primary job is to rap, not be a role model. They're entertainers. If your kid falling in with the type of **** Future or Wayne promotes they were already at risk IMO.

With that said, music is powerful. Impressionable minds + repetition of negativity + a need for an escape or acceptance is a recipe for disaster at all ages.

It's a good idea to talk to your kids, siblings, cousins, all that and see where their heads are at. Their musical intake can really tell you a lot depending on the kid.

future might promote it but i heard he dont even drink that he da most soberest cat out there

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Music has been used a programming tool LONG before us.

There's science involved here. This **** goes alot deeper beneath the surface than "parenting".

Of course it's deeper than just parenting. That science will tell you some people are predisposed to addictive or reckless behavior. Some people are more susceptible to coercion and influence.

I know about the frequency use and the government patents etc etc. It's obviously used to program.

But I already got a kid. I'll be damned if I'ma just say "welp I guess they got her" if she do some goofy ****. If your kid is consuming BS 24/7 through the internet without any kind of intervention, you can't really be surprised if something goes wrong.

Mine acted an *** when she started living with me 4-5 years ago. She was on YouTube alllll day every day. Stricter parenting with YouTube and device restrictions got her into special placement classes and all As every report card. Happier than she's ever been.

It goes deeper than parenting but if you cop out to "it's the music's fault" you already lost.

i heard people tried eating booty cuz of kevin gates

Fat Trel for me

 

[Magic33]

Everybody is impressionable, that shouldn't even be an argument. Teaching your kids accountability early is very important.

If my kid come home and say she did some dumb **** and blames it on her friends or a celebrity I'ma call her out on it.

and many people don't have that support system in their home and families.

and it only takes one time to die from it.

 

[max powers]

Word is, Cole is releasing new music. A mixtape called, "The Off Season" then an album called, "The Fall Off". Any truth to these allegations?

 

[Magic33]

And it was A LOT of crack heads. Crack started as a Oakland thing. We say that "nobody wanted to be a crack head" but the reality is it was a lot of 'em from all walks of life. lower class, middle class, whatever. And it wasn't just the "pookie" stereotypical types. I'm never rocking with this "kids are incapable of making their own decisions". Not when I see and hear some of them say they not f'n with that stuff. Nobody is saying that music has zero influence on drug use, I'm also saying it's up to that individual to make their choice.

and how many young crack heads were there?

and kids aren't totally capable of making that choice. Why? They're kids. Because they're young, immature and dumb. They're influenced by peer pressure. Why can't a kid legally sign a contract at 15 or 16? They can make a choice according to you, right?

 

[RIP sleazyy]

and many people don't have that support system in their home and families.

and it only takes one time to die from it.

Also true. That's part of the predisposition I mentioned. Shaky environmental factors will **** you over big time.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Back to how this convo started...

I remember @str8drop talking about how the young artists were using alot of cartoons/illustrations in their album/single art + videos to appeal to kids. With that in mind...Future doing a tape with JuiceWrld...and using THAT cover seems a bit funny to me

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Back to how this convo started...

I remember @str8drop talking about how the young artists were using alot of cartoons/illustrations in their album/single art + videos to appeal to kids. With that in mind...Future doing a tape with JuiceWrld...and using THAT cover seems a bit funny to me

See this I have a problem with lol Pump does that **** too.

Some of these cats are clearly marketing to a segment of the population. At that point you gotta wonder if it's them or the powers above them that are doing this on purpose.

Reminiscent of the tobacco industry targeting teens. I think Future or someone involved in his handling is trying to reignite his spark with a younger group.

 

[numbah1grimey]

I been listening to 3-6 Mafia, Lil Wayne/hot boys, Houston rappers, too short, etc., trick daddy, explicit music cause my mom never bought the clean version (she would literally return the CD, if she actually bought the clean version) since before I started pre-school. Hell, I remember watching the Nino Brown sex scene in New Jack City when I was 5 years old.

Never ONCE listening to Wayne, BG etc make me wanna do heroin or lean.

I’ve only smoke weed once EVER. Back in 2006.
And I don’t drink. In my 30 years of living, I’ve probably had alcohol 4 times. I hate alcohol. I hate drugs.

But, I understand everyone is different. And I’m from South Florida, and practically grew up around every substance. Never popped molly, X, none of that.

I may be an outlier but, I understand everyone is different.

I done seen molly and X turn these negros into straight feminine junkies. I just can’t. Now you got dudes wearing digital flower crowns and heart crowns, smh

 

[Maximus Meridius]

and how many young crack heads were there?

and kids aren't totally capable of making that choice. Why? They're kids. Because they're young, immature and dumb. They're influenced by peer pressure. Why can't a kid legally sign a contract at 15 or 16? They can make a choice according to you, right?

A 15, 16 year old is old enough to decide whether they want to do drugs or not and know the effects. Especially in this internet era. Of course kids feel peer pressure, I already said that. They can choose to crack under that pressure or not that's up to them.

 

[D StaXX]

I always wondered what was up with that.

She thought it was a dope name and better than the existing one she was using so she gave up her name?

I believe this is exactly what it was. She put a video on Instagram not too long ago but I didn’t pay attention.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Bruh...



Didn't someone make a meme about this song doing this at a party?

 

[ahat]

I pray for our youth when I hear **** like Future/Juice. Just terrible nonstop drug promotion.

Ya it's been a styles p weekend for me

 

[Arthur Shelby]

 

[numbah1grimey]

B_ say we hi-side, cause we don’t speak

 

[Deleted member 107398]

Word is, Cole is releasing new music. A mixtape called, "The Off Season" then an album called, "The Fall Off". Any truth to these allegations?

Very

He dropped the first joint off the mixtape a few months back, that freestyle to Oochie Wally

 

[Maximus Meridius]

 

[numbah1grimey]

Forgot how perfect this song is

 

[tomdiginson]

I'm like suede it get dark if I'm rubbed the wrong way
And just thinking back on my life every action was lack of Christ
All the trappers was into fashion but passed beyond it's advice
I was rapping trying to get nice
Sorta like chess games I had to hold my horses and sacrifice all my knights



All the things that was killing us settled in as the norm
And the regular common form
Rebels who not informed on the devil without his horns
Instead of peddling out the storm we would stray away from a way that was delicate, calm and warm
Learning paved the way for us quickly I found wisdom

Mans skipped pass this good piece of music

 

[Magic33]

People can't blame Vlad when the person is this stupid.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

AR AB been snitching on himself for a decade now

 

[Magic33]

A 15, 16 year old is old enough to decide whether they want to do drugs or not and know the effects. Especially in this internet era. Of course kids feel peer pressure, I already said that. They can choose to crack under that pressure or not that's up to them.

Of course they can make that decision, but the likelihood of it being a good one is less likely because of their age. That's why we have age limits on driving, smoking and alcohol.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Of course they can make that decision, but the likelihood of it being a good one is less likely because of their age. That's why we have age limits on driving, smoking and alcohol.

That kinda speaks to humans just being generally stupid sometimes though. Starting smoking at any age is a bad decision. Adults drink and drive and drive recklessly every day.

Age restrictions on some things is kinda off in general. You don't suddenly wake up able to make better decisions at 18 or 21