Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[wavycrocket]

Also wavy you can try to give that trash ***** young thug credit if you want but I'll pass on that. Dude is textbook definition of a biter, the kind that y'all so called hate.

Uzi = Wayne around 08 using autotune. Same ****. Only difference is the beats

I said there's no Thug without Wayne. Meaning Wayne is the clear Influence and main DNA in young thug. Thug infused Wayne's influence with his own sound...and grew from that. When Uzi first hit the scene...he bit Thug. Then Made his own lane. Now, you got dudes like Tripple red biting Uzi.

It's basically 6 degrees of separation from lil Wayne .

And although I mostly hated everything Wayne put out post 2008....he still had some joints. And some unconventional joints that were ahead of its time. Like his verse on this CLASSIC



Sonically....it's ahead of its time. And pretty much the foundation for what Thug does well. Using the voice as an instrument.

 

[Hahahaha]

Two things.

1. Y'all are over here proud of all these trash *** artists Wayne is responsible for. You're championing his impact on rap and it hurts Wayne's status. He's responsible for a lot of these terrible rappers and the worst rap music we've ever heard.

2. Drake's sound and Toronto's sound (a few years ago) is straight from Houston. Many Houston natives have said it and complained about it. That So Far Gone album was Houston's sound and formed what y'all call Toronto's sound. Toronto's sound might have evolved and changed now, I don't know. I don't listen to that music because it ain't for me but his early work is crazy Houston. He was living in Houston recording that work, that **** ain't even an opinion, it's a ****in fact.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Did anyone ever use the term "Toronto Sound" before Take Care?

 

[Hahahaha]

**** no

 

[delete1234]

Did anyone ever use the term "Toronto Sound" before Take Care?

No because he was the only known Toronto artist. That would only be established after more toronto artists come out like party and the weekend. Why would there be a sound established for only one guy? That would be just "drake music" at that point. Nice try though

I'm still waiting to hear how the weekend pioneered toronto sound by himself please explain

 

[wavycrocket]

Two things can be true:

1. The "Toronto sound" that Drake brought to the forefront is Houston inspired. It's clear. He make sure it known. There's really nothing to argue here. He put HIS touch on it though. And through "collaborative efforts"....birthed a "sound".

2. Drake is THE central influence on the moody, 90s r&b sample heavy, quiet storm, half singing half rapping bedroom music. They all draw from So Gar Gone era and Take Care Drake etc.

Think this discussion was had a few months ago....but the timeline to me regarding that sound....is something like this

90s black shades R&B
Houston screw
Kirko Bangz
So Far Gone era Drake
Weekend
OVO Sound
PND, Villz,Tory, Tiller etc

That's the sequence. With a lot of acts coming off that OVO sound era post 2012

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Two things.

1. Y'all are over here proud of all these trash *** artists Wayne is responsible for. You're championing his impact on rap and it hurts Wayne's status. He's responsible for a lot of these terrible rappers and the worst rap music we've ever heard.

2. Drake's sound and Toronto's sound (a few years ago) is straight from Houston. Many Houston natives have said it and complained about it. That So Far Gone album was Houston's sound and formed what y'all call Toronto's sound. Toronto's sound might have evolved and changed now, I don't know. I don't listen to that music because it ain't for me but his early work is crazy Houston. He was living in Houston recording that work, that **** ain't even an opinion, it's a ****in fact.

Not houston sound and thats a fact.

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Two things can be true:

1. The "Toronto sound" that Drake brought to the forefront is Houston inspired. It's clear. He make sure it known. There's really nothing to argue here. He put HIS touch on it though. And through "collaborative efforts"....birthed a "sound".

2. Drake is THE central influence on the moody, 90s r&b sample heavy, quiet storm, half singing half rapping bedroom music. They all draw from So Gar Gone era and Take Care Drake etc.

Think this discussion was had a few months ago....but the timeline to me regarding that sound....is something like this

Nah houston sound is diverse not just screw music.

 

[wavycrocket]

Dope song. Quintessential Drake at his best.



I remember I used to front hard on this tape. But joints like this are undeniable...and undeniably Houston inspired.

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Dope song. Quintessential Drake at his best.



I remember I used to front hard on this tape. But joints like this are undeniable...and undeniably Houston inspired.

Og version is completely different

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Drake and mainly 40 did spark the Toronto sound. Weeknd and his producers went all the way with it. His beats and content was darker and more raw. The Weekends whole image. PND and the Nav dude both are clear influences of the Weeknd.

 

[tay1]

How about this guys. Drake AND the Weeknd are both responsible for crafting the "Toronto sound". It's not always one or the other. It's clear both had a part in it. Obviously Drake helped change rap with the singy-song rap ****, or rap sing ****, and Weeknd literally changed R&B with the whole mystery vibe, dark n***** music. PND, Tory, Roy Woods and all these clones wouldn't exist without the both of them.

 

[P C H]

Dope song. Quintessential Drake at his best.



I remember I used to front hard on this tape. But joints like this are undeniable...and undeniably Houston inspired.

SFG a classic man.

"Cup inside of cup, smokin' ghostface killah

So many albums today sound like SFG (09')

 

[delete1234]

Ok now that we've debunked The Weeknd started toronto sound nonsense, we're going to have to explain how pnd sound like and is "influenced" by the weekend.

Yeah...go on and post the references, similar songs etc. let's hear it.

Pnd music has trap, bass, and his vocals are autotune and nothing like the weeeknds.

Early pnd aka jahron b sounded like a 2003 RNB singer.

None of these dudes listen to pnd you can tell.

The only similarities of Weeknd and partynextdoor are gimmicks, down to the stage names. ones of which The Weeknd really doesn't participate in anymore aside from the stage name.

Only ovo dude that sound like the weeknd is Roy woods. That's it.

 

[zoelife91]

Dope song. Quintessential Drake at his best.



I remember I used to front hard on this tape. But joints like this are undeniable...and undeniably Houston inspired.

Top 5 drake song for me. I remember exactly where I was when I heard this

 

[str8drop]

Og version is completely different

The real OG version is Kriss Kross - Da Streets Ain't Right, its a lil bit higher bpm

Screw freestyle is of course the legendary one tho

Personally i think fans just got tired of wayne, & cats who are a bit older know what he use to do so we hold him to a higher standard. If Wayne was a new artist & put out the EXACT same music he's putting out now he would be the Kids favorite rapper.

Nah dude just not 100% in it no more, it happens

 

[str8drop]

I been thinking this for the longest. All Uzi **** sound like poor versions of Prom Queen or that song with Nicki on rebirth.

Uzi definitely pulling the pop punk **** off way better. Did Weezy even write Prom Queen? srsly

 

[delete1234]

Uzi definitely pulling the pop punk **** off way better. Did Weezy even write Prom Queen? srsly

I agree. Uzi doing his thang

 

[All Ready]

pnd def was influenced by weeknd

he started as an upbeat weeknd

 

[delete1234]

pnd def was influenced by weeknd

he started as an upbeat weeknd

wheres the supporting evidence? what is an upbeat weekend though? The Weeknd isn't upbeat

 

[Maximus Meridius]

PND whole first tape sounded like a bad singing Weeknd.

 

[All Ready]

wheres the supporting evidence? what is an upbeat weekend though? The Weeknd isn't upbeat

exactly

he came with the same style but it sounded more happy

then weeknd did that himself on his can't feel my face type cuts and it gave weeknd a different more polished sound and now there's more of an obvious difference

early pnd and roy woods all sounded like weeknd when they first dropped

 

[tay1]

Pnd was definitely a variant weeknd . Only dude who came out that didn't knock weeknd was Tiller. But Tiller garbage now. Now we have indie-trap style music coming from the likes of Khalid

 

[delete1234]

What weekend song sounds like these?

Here's even a slow song



Where's The Weeknd "influence" cuz he singing about hos?

 

[VARNELL HILL]

This was Party's first song debuted w/ OVO.



Nobody listened to this and thought Weeknd...yet the similarities started right after this. I can't think of any other reason why besides the abstract names, hometown, and drake affiliations. Sonically...I've never heard it at all. It's just a lazy comparison if we're talking music and music only.