Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[Deleted member 107398]

Joe contradicts himself too much

doesn't listen to Kodak cause it's not his age group, but is buying Uzi albums

 

[tay1]

Joe Budden was sounding dumb during the Kodak segment. When he starts yelling, he makes less sense

Also, I wouldn't compare Kodak to Boozie. I think of BG when listening to Kodak sometimes.

 

[ninjahood]

The day "Bodak Yellow" was released, Chery placed the song on Apple Music's Breaking Hip-Hop playlist. "After a few days I noticed there was already some traction on the hip-hop charts, at first just in the high-100s," he says. "I think just based on the fact that it was on one single playlist and it got that much engagement, it just made me think, okay, our users are really responding to it."

A week later, Chery placed the song on Apple Music's biggest playlist, A-List Hip-Hop, and watched its streams jump 124 percent in its first week, then 31 percent, 14 percent and another 30 percent in the three weeks that followed. By August, the song had reached No. 1 on Apple Music; to date, according to the company, it's been streamed 81 million times globally on the service. "I don't remember anything else taking off this fast," Chery says. "It wasn't specific regions. It was across the board."

i literally said all this

what's not being talked about is da grind before hand, da livemixtapes/datpiff club show grind that permits you da lane to go to Spotify/apple/tidal as well.

 

[wavycrocket]

The next hit joe Budden will hate

 

[ninjahood]

In 2017 ninja? That's what we saying?

my man.... how many times do you see folks "love" a song as soon as da visual drops meanwhile that ish been sitting on a mixtape for 3 months before lukewarm.

I.E. 2 chainz f/ migos & Gucci mane.

go see da numbers of his mixtape vs views on YouTube.

 

[wavycrocket]

Boosie is probably Kodaks biggest influence. Bg, keef n Wayne too

 

[HOU$TON]

Kodak does remind me more of BG

 

[6pac]

Hell...all the street trap Gucci Mane wannabe *****s with all the face tats that drop run of the mill tapes that only 5K people will hear...have moved on to Spinrilla & MyMixtapes.

That is who really is the current iteration of who Ninja is arguing for.

LiveMixtapes and DatPiff should have had an app in 2010. I remember in 2013 having one and it randomly deleted all my songs smh.

Spinrilla gonna b done soon too as soon as someone puts out an app that lets you keep your downloads in a cloud type thing instead of it deleting everytime you redownload your app.

 

[HOU$TON]

He was tweakin dissing weezy, clear influence along with boosie, bg like wavy pointed out.

 

[tay1]

The next hit joe Budden will hate

It's cool, but it aint no hit. Was laughing when the directors IG handle came up instead of his name.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

my man.... how many times do you see folks "love" a song as soon as da visual drops meanwhile that ish been sitting on a mixtape for 3 months before lukewarm.

I.E. 2 chainz f/ migos & Gucci mane.

go see da numbers of his mixtape vs views on YouTube.

That's more of people just playing the song while they on the internet. People don't watch videos over and over like that now but I see you dug in with this 2006 way of thinking.

Kodak does remind me more of BG

Yup. His first few tapes sound a lot like "It's all on you" era BG.

 

[ninjahood]

People don't watch videos over and over like that now

YouTube is da number #1 place music is streamed and its by ALOT.

people these days bluetooth or AUX cable a YouTube playlist and cook.

these people are racking up hundreds of millions views on their videos. and getting YouTube checks.

its so serious they drop a lyrics video 1st to double dip before da actual visual drops.

some of ya letting ya music elitist attitudes cloud ya common sense.

 

[str8drop]

Boosie and Webbie are major influences on the South Florida hood **** in general.

fronts and a Boosie fade is like the hop off the porch starter pack

That's the OG project baby

 

[trynafeelmink]

Joe Budden was sounding dumb during the Kodak segment. When he starts yelling, he makes less sense

Also, I wouldn't compare Kodak to Boozie. I think of BG when listening to Kodak sometimes.

Am i missing something about today's show, what did Joe say that was so out of line? Only thing that he said in regards to Kodak that was off.... was him saying he needed this more than Cardi B. Neither one actually needs this, but in the current time Kodak being on a remix to the #1 song in the country does help him more than it does Cardi, simply based off the fact that it's gonna be #1 & has the biggest buzz right now

As far as everything else, what did Joe say that was Wrong?

He stated continuously that he hasn't heard Kodak's music
He stated continuously that he doesn't wanna give him a chance because everytime he sees him Kodak is acting Foolish
He stated continuously that he can't separate the music from the actions, he expects the two to lineup
He stated that the kind of street music he likes, is made by rappers who are more lyrical, who's lyrics are extremely coherent, & who's personas they display are more of a "grown" nature

Based off all we've seen from Kodak.......... why is Joe wrong for not wanting to listen to his music, based off all the things he's stated he doesn't like?

 

[Deleted member 107398]

Am i missing something about today's show, what did Joe say that was so out of line? Only thing that he said in regards to Kodak that was off.... was him saying he needed this more than Cardi B. Neither one actually needs this, but in the current time Kodak being on a remix to the #1 song in the country does help him more than it does Cardi, simply based off the fact that it's gonna be #1 & has the biggest buzz right now

As far as everything else, what did Joe say that was Wrong?

He stated continuously that he hasn't heard Kodak's music
He stated continuously that he doesn't wanna give him a chance because everytime he sees him Kodak is acting Foolish
He stated continuously that he can't separate the music from the actions, he expects the two to lineup
He stated that the kind of street music he likes, is made by rappers who are more lyrical, who's lyrics are extremely coherent, & who's personas they display are more of a "grown" nature

Based off all we've seen from Kodak.......... why is Joe wrong for not wanting to listen to his music, based off all the things he's stated he doesn't like?

cause he listens to Uzi

 

[definition of dopeness]

Joe is an R&B head, he says it all the time on his pod and he said it today on the show. 120 plus eps and I don't think Joe has ever played a rap sleeper pick. He don't really have a clue about rap in genre these days outside of the same few cats they talk about on the show. He don't even keep up with the few cats he says he's a fan of, my ***** R&B'd out

But that I only listen to artists with longevity **** he spewed was some bs, he listen to mad R&B new ****** that's not going to be around for long

 

[trynafeelmink]

cause he listens to Uzi

Uzi nor any of his fans are claiming that he's a street rapper or that he's making thought provoking music tho... Joe has even stated that he thinks of Uzi music more as an alternative type of rap.

Also i don't think Uzi gives off the any of the same vibe that Kodak gives off, which seems to be a big part of why Joe won't listen & it makes sense to me. If everytime i see someone they're doing something i deem annoying, why would i go out & listen to a full project of it lol

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Joe said Kodak doesn't make music with substance which is false. All the stuff he keep saying about Kodak needing Cardi is false. I mean I don't like Kodak's mush mouth internet antics either, Joe should just leave it at that.

 

[trynafeelmink]

nowhere on this episode did i hear him say Kodak doesn't make music with substance. He stated he doesn't listen to his music period, but based off his antics he doesn't see how Kodak could make music of substance TO HIM. Idk what's wrong with that

Joe grew up on cats like WU, Nas, Pac, Biggie, Rakim, Kool G etc etc..... telling someone who looks at that as substance & then telling them that Kodak has substance is gonna get you a more than likely.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

You might wanna watch it again cuz he said "he don't make for that sticks to the soul" or "for the soul" some **** like that. It's really no explanation needed for Joe, he don't listen to ****, that's it.

I grew up on Pac and Nas too and I see Kodak has substance too cuz I listened to the music.

 

[tay1]

Yeah man just watch it again. Dude just says outrageous and contradictory s**** because Ak and Pinky let him get away with it

 

[wavycrocket]

I keep telling y'all.

Joe only likes his rap one way. He's incapable of seeing an artist like Kodak make music with substance, depth and wordplay because he's set in his ways.

He's dead wrong about Kodak not making anything for guys around Joe's age. Kodak is winning right now because his music transcends age. A decent part of his fan base are the late 20s to late 30s guys that came up 90s southern music. He reminds us of BG/Boosie/Wayne etc. Those are guys that Budden clearly wasn't a fan of....and weren't universally accepted for their rapping ability early on.

I def get how kodaks antics can turn ****** off though...and not give the music a tim of day. But he can "rap rap" for real. And his versatility is why he's a star.







And Akademiks such a d**** rider. Just a few weeks ago....Kodak was a mumble rapper that he incorrectly lumped in with Yachty. After Project Baby 2.....he's all the sudden a street rapper that 40 years olds can relate too

 

[wavycrocket]

Ak can't even get a word in without Joe interrupting

 

[tay1]

The n***** saying dumb **** and asking does Kodak make music for 40 year olds yet champions Uzi who he, despite Uzi saying it himself, claims makes music for 25 year olds and under

 

[trynafeelmink]

You might wanna watch it again cuz he said "he don't make for that sticks to the soul" or "for the soul" some **** like that. It's really no explanation needed for Joe, he don't listen to ****, that's it.

I grew up on Pac and Nas too and I see Kodak has substance too cuz I listened to the music.

and joe has said numerous times now that he's not gonna listen to the music based off the antics, I just watched the episode and all the man said was he's not a fan of the music because Kodak acts childish....... what exactly is so blasphemous & outrageous about that.

If you know you like a certain maturity level & vibe to your music, and everything that artist showcases is the opposite of that why would you go listen to full projects from them. I'm sure Joe has heard a few Kodak verses in passing, that would be enough to decide whether you wanna hear more or not