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True, Lucid Dreams just isn't the best example
Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread
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- Aug 6, 2012
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That Lil Uzi ox song is 6x platinum and they want us to believe these songs are equal? Nah.
I don't listen to Uzi AT ALL but I heard that song damn near everywhere.
Everywhere. And Uzi had a base by then. Lucid dreams while a big song wasn't around that much to warrant a 6x platinum album. People are truly underestimating how big of a goal and number that is. Drake doesn't even have a number to match that for an album. Labels getting too blatlant with boosting numbers
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Those numbers we're boosted so Sting could get a bigger check. #staywoke
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The first person through the door doesn’t always get the biggest prize
Uzi was primarily doing Trap music and **** and then gradually worked into Pop Punk -esque space and then XO hit
JuiceWrld already had a blueprint laid out for him, he came out the gate and went straight for the Pop Punk ****, that sound already had a recent record of success he just capitalized
It’s like with Thug, his sound is normalized now so new _’s are hopping in having more success than him
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- Dec 14, 2004
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I hate this argument, I've always bought what I liked no matter if it's popular or not. I'm still infatuated with what sells and the numbers it does. It was interesting to see Pac and DMX break records and **** like that. It's also dope seeing a great project sell big.
It's funny, all this streaming **** I rarely even check numbers. I used to check every Friday to see who sold what but now, I rarely do.
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When I say dated I'm talking about the Platinum, Gold, Diamond sales is dated. It no longer means as much as before because it's "easier" to "sell" albums now. Streams made getting to gold/platinum/etc easier.
Example:
Isn't there a rule where if you put an already popular song on an album that album gets that song's streams added to it's total sales?
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Says who? Like how are you coming to this conclusion? I'm not even inherently saying that you're wrong, all I'm saying is that it makes sense. The song was HUGE. Like I said, there aren't 5 songs bigger than that record in 2018.
Just weird to use Lucid Dreams as the pivot to numbers being inflated.
Bro people deadass can't come to grips with Lucid being 6x plat because they don't think it should be, or they haven't heard it, and that's wild.
- Oct 26, 2016
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Simple. Music is subjective. People are inherently competitive and prideful, but you can't be that way w/subjectivity. You can tell me till you're blue in the face that rapper x is better than rapper y, and it wouldn't change my opinion or make your opinion right.
The only argument you have then, when it comes to music is success, sales, etc.
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Exactly. Lucid isn't the best example but it's real.
Like I remember a few years back reading an article about a band who got their **** taken off spotify cause they had a silent album on repeat and made 20k overnight from it
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmc...otify-from-5-minutes-of-silence/#42c2933b18ed
Don't get it twisted, the industry is juicing numbers in a myriad of ways, but
1) How is this different from ****** going platinum from albums shipped and not bought? At least to a degree ****** are going platinum from what the people are listening to
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2) Lucid Dreams aint' the hill you wanna die on for this.
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There are technical and theoretical aspects of music that can be debated and argued. Popularity contenst is less about the music and more about marketing and exposure.
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I agree with this
This is like teachers who grade with a curve. Everyone is getting inflated numbers.
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There's nothing wild about it. The amount of plays it takes for one song to do a million is ridiculous. 6 Million is even more crazy. Name other rappers who single has went 5x platinum within the past 2-3 years. This aint 1mill. You tryna tell me this legitimately out did Bodak Yellow? EVERYONE knew that song. There are still large pockets of people who never even heard of this guy. Nah I'm not buying it.
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Jacquees Wylin out here , disrespecting one of the GOATS
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It's 100% wild because we're still dismissing how popular a song is because "there's still large pockets of people who never ever even heard of this guy" lol like rap is so big now, that rap music can be hugely successful w/people still not being hip to him.
Again it may have missed you, but if you were 16-26 it would make total sense.
Juice Wrld's appeal is that of a hipster white guy making emo rap music, so comparing it to bodak yellow, in which it's appeal is to urban women is ridiculous.
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I am 26 and I actually liked his album. I mentioned him while ago in here when nobody knew who he was. There's nothing to convince me that it's legit.
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I feel it
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“I’m still getting that bag.”
Keith Sweat was about to go
Keith Sweat was about to go
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Jacquees resume too light to claim king of any generation. He not even king of 2018. I listened to that album over the weekend, his voice weak as **** and so is his writing. He had about 4-5 good songs out of 18.
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The wildest part of these discussions is _'s main arguing points be "I ain't heard it around my way" and/or "bro you can't tell me so and so was bigger than so and so" 
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The wildest part of these discussions is _'s main arguing points be "I ain't heard it around my way" and/or "bro you can't tell me so and so was bigger than so and so"
I remember when the song was buzzing, and caught even more of a ride when Kourtney Kardashian had it on her IG story.
But because you haven't heard it, and heard bodak yellow more you not buying how successful it is.
Such a weird song to use to push the inflated numbers stance. For the record, numbers have been, and will continue to be inflated, but a song which was everywhere like lucid was in a weird choice to push that claim.
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It's one of many songs. Don't know why you keep focusing on that part . We have been brought it up. It's getting more blatant and this is an example of it.
Y'all treating 6x platinum as if it's nothing.
Y'all treating 6x platinum as if it's nothing.
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- May 23, 2005
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I've never tripped of what an album sold
just if it was good to me or not
some of my fav albums are barely platinum
i didnt buy its dark and hell is hot
or me against the world back then
and give a thought to the numbers it would do
though i do remember when that ben franklin ave dude
who got ran outta general used to post the numbers
and the discussion we would have
only time i was interested in numbers
remember when the robin thick album STAYED on the charts
was crazy how long it was on
we was always trippin out in the thread
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I'm putting a baby in my wife to this joint here
And I'm posting this again just because it's been on repeat too.
And I'm posting this again just because it's been on repeat too.
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kieth looked like e wanted to smack him
