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It wasn’t everywhere though
Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread
- Thread in 'Music' Thread starter Started by brivera716,
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Fam your admittedly washed
you don't know
whats getting burn @
boat parties
clubs festivals etc
ionno why you even chiming in on this topic
you don't know
whats getting burn @
boat parties
clubs festivals etc
ionno why you even chiming in on this topic
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It's funny when some of you say something is trash, but then you post trash
You're picky about your trash I guess
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They're talking about the fact it did 6 million. Labels are faking numbers.
And if you had platinum singles, you were selling records.
If not you were a one hit wonder. You have people who stream great for multiple songs, but can't stream a whole project.
There is nothing archaic about sells determining popularity. People have millions of followers. People sell millions of singles. They aren't selling projects and aren't doing big venues. It doesn't add up. Then you have someone like Russ who actually is performing in front of thousands.
Why? because the numbers aren't real to begin with. They're hoping for exposure and to sell based on a song being popular
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I couldn't tell you what Lucid Dreams sounds like or any words to it where as a song like Skywalker by Miguel was a song I never went out my way to throw on but heard everywhere and know a handful of the words too just from hearing it so much for comparison.
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While yes I ain’t hip
I ain’t no jive turkey
My kids keep me up to what’s “current”
- May 23, 2005
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All
I’m sayin
Is just cause u thick I ain’t giving u a pass
That’s why we got a bunch of ugly people walking around
Folks ain’t got standards
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Draya ALMOST perfect but her feet trash
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With the JuiceWrld ****, I don’t think a lot of y’all taking into account like how much bigger rap is now, it allows **** to be compartmentalized
I feel like in the past in order to have a big rap record you actually needed all the traditional “rap fans” to hear and support that ****. You had to really touch urban/black media. A lot of lines are being blurred now. You don’t have to have a big black audience to be a successful a rapper now
Like there could be 0 black ppl bumping G-Eazy but his **** is still gonna do numbers
With Lucid Dreams he actually got into the POP radio space. That space is notoriously weird when it comes to black ppl and black music (they be cutting off the rap feats on pop songs etc) but he was spinning everyday on there. I think at one point he was getting more spins on POP than he was on Rap/R&B, but its like if you never listen to POP then it basically doesn’t exist to you
The idea that if you ain’t heard of somebody they must not be that popping is so antiquated now it ain’t even funny
I feel like in the past in order to have a big rap record you actually needed all the traditional “rap fans” to hear and support that ****. You had to really touch urban/black media. A lot of lines are being blurred now. You don’t have to have a big black audience to be a successful a rapper now
Like there could be 0 black ppl bumping G-Eazy but his **** is still gonna do numbers
With Lucid Dreams he actually got into the POP radio space. That space is notoriously weird when it comes to black ppl and black music (they be cutting off the rap feats on pop songs etc) but he was spinning everyday on there. I think at one point he was getting more spins on POP than he was on Rap/R&B, but its like if you never listen to POP then it basically doesn’t exist to you
The idea that if you ain’t heard of somebody they must not be that popping is so antiquated now it ain’t even funny
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I just don't believe that joint is 6x platinum. Is it a popular song among a certain group? Yeah but it ain't 6x platinum. A lot of people probably just heard it when the story came out about Sting getting a large percentage of it cuz they didn't clear the sample. It's real easy for these labels and streaming sites to juice these #'s or just flat out lie. It's all perception.
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I don't think the numbers are cooked with the Lucid Dreams thing, but I will say that the current metrics and how they are valued are dated. I don't think the industry has caught up to times where physical sales are no longer the main way people consume it.
At some point there will be a new ranking system that develops that makes this all more level. Right now it's "easy" to manipulate things to make suff jump
At some point there will be a new ranking system that develops that makes this all more level. Right now it's "easy" to manipulate things to make suff jump
- Jan 7, 2003
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With the JuiceWrld ****, I don’t think a lot of y’all taking into account like how much bigger rap is now, it allows **** to be compartmentalized
I feel like in the past in order to have a big rap record you actually needed all the traditional “rap fans” to hear and support that ****. You had to really touch urban/black media. A lot of lines are being blurred now. You don’t have to have a big black audience to be a successful a rapper now
Like there could be 0 black ppl bumping G-Eazy but his **** is still gonna do numbers
With Lucid Dreams he actually got into the POP radio space. That space is notoriously weird when it comes to black ppl and black music (they be cutting off the rap feats on pop songs etc) but he was spinning everyday on there. I think at one point he was getting more spins on POP than he was on Rap/R&B, but its like if you never listen to POP then it basically doesn’t exist to you
The idea like that if you ain’t heard of somebody they must not be that popping is so antiquated now it ain’t even funny
Just cause your music crossed over (IDC about the genre) means it’s a good SONG. “Pop” music stands for POPULAR music. You mean to tell me his song is only better than say, a song only known in the hood, or a song that’s not really known by everyone? No. It just means his song is POPULAR. Which does not equal good by everyone.
When y’all bring up these “pop records” or “black songs liked by other crowds” it’s like y’all giving them the right to say what goes or, how to rate OUR music. I hate when black people care about the opinions of that “other” crowd. Who cares about their opinion bruh. It’s our music. I don’t care if it’s become “likable” to enjoy rap/hip-hop. It was going to happen regardless.
It’s like Gangnam style or whatver that Asian dudes song was. You jamming Gangnam style?
Some of y’all be worse than Kanye West when it comes to wanting white acceptance. That ish is sad on y’all part
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With the JuiceWrld ****, I don’t think a lot of y’all taking into account like how much bigger rap is now, it allows **** to be compartmentalized
I feel like in the past in order to have a big rap record you actually needed all the traditional “rap fans” to hear and support that ****. You had to really touch urban/black media. A lot of lines are being blurred now. You don’t have to have a big black audience to be a successful a rapper now
Like there could be 0 black ppl bumping G-Eazy but his **** is still gonna do numbers
With Lucid Dreams he actually got into the POP radio space. That space is notoriously weird when it comes to black ppl and black music (they be cutting off the rap feats on pop songs etc) but he was spinning everyday on there. I think at one point he was getting more spins on POP than he was on Rap/R&B, but its like if you never listen to POP then it basically doesn’t exist to you
The idea like that if you ain’t heard of somebody they must not be that popping is so antiquated now it ain’t even funny
i knew how big the song was when i was at an aau tournament this summer and it come on. i watched about 1000 kids go into a ******* trance. dead *** lil ****** were singing that **** like it was Thriller. i couldn't believe it.
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There's nothing dated about it, because it doesn't depend on sales now. It's coming from streams.
The numbers are distorted. Labels and the streaming services are the ones who report the numbers.
People look at Tidal funny, but not the other ones.
- May 23, 2005
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I don’t get why consumers
Are more focused on sales
Instead of the actual music
And if it’s actually good or not
Are more focused on sales
Instead of the actual music
And if it’s actually good or not
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That Lil Uzi ox song is 6x platinum and they want us to believe these songs are equal? Nah.
I don't listen to Uzi AT ALL but I heard that song damn near everywhere.
I don't listen to Uzi AT ALL but I heard that song damn near everywhere.
- Jan 7, 2003
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Because most of them ain’t heard enough quality music throughout their life, to make a real assessment. You gotta remember, a lot of people grew up in homes where their parents only allowed them to listen to certain music.
A lot of people weren’t allowed to listen to whatever they wanted to, as a youth
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formerly willchamberlain
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Crazy.... never heard the juiceworld song
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My _
you read my post, missed the whole point and then typed all this up
My point was _’s are acting like the song couldn’t be that big because they haven’t heard it like that even tho it’s getting played in a lot of other spaces that they not tapped in to. Rap not just getting spun in traditional rap spaces by traditional rap fans no more.
That would be like me coming in here saying “How the **** is this Taylor Swift song #2 in the country? I ain’t heard none of my _’s slapping that ****, they juicing the numbers!!”
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It's a metric that can be proven. I can't prove what's better based on what sounds good because it's completely subjective, but I can lean on numbers/sales because they are calculated and there's a record of it.
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I can't speak to what artist/songs your kids relay to you
I had similar encounters, it ain't that deep.
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Stream farming is definitely a thing
