Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

i feel like or hope that the *****s in melly, keed and gotit generation pay homage and he gets his roses as much as thug does

they along w future really started that street gospel/pain autotune singing music

It ain't happening :lol: Thug brute forced his way into a big cult following, a lot of people know that style as his so you almost gotta pay homage

Dudes like Skooly, Key!, etc have cult bases but they're wayyy smaller, to the point that only those in-the-know recognize the style. Key! got huge _'s like Drake, Future, Uzi etc doing impressions of him and nobody know or care :lol:

Skooly thing is he didn't wanna market his street side like that, he wanted to come up on some artist ****. Most people outside of ATL didn't really understand his persona. Melly come out of nowhere, fresh off a case with Murder on My Mind and sticks everywhere and start going up :ohwell::lol:

This is what I talking about the other day tho, first one in don't always get the roses. A lot of times you spend all your energy tryna break a door down, by the time its open you gassed and all the _'s coming behind you just step over yo body on the way in
 
That's not what he said at all

He saying if you want #1 singles thats gonna crossover you gotta put some time in and polish em

Exactly. It’s the business versus the art approach.

Thug is creating...lyor is trying to tell him to polish that to make it more palatable for listener consumption.

Classic case of art vs business.
 
Exactly. It’s the business versus the art approach.

Thug is creating...lyor is trying to tell him to polish that to make it more palatable for listener consumption.

Classic case of art vs business.

Exactly, art vs business is 100% what it is

Vince Staples be talking about this a lot

He was saying that’s why he have a hard time referring to this **** as art, cause it ain't just about the "art", its more of a business/job once you step in this space.

A lot of _'s not really making **** they wanna make 100% cause deep down they know they gotta have some **** that sell well.
 
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Exactly, art vs business is 100% what it is

A lot of _'s not really making **** they wanna make 100% cause deep down they know they gotta have some **** that sell well.
I think that's moreso as far as #1 records go, those things don't just fall out the sky.
 


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@D StaXX
 
"switched sides, guess his new friends wanted him dead"

You infiltrated my team and sold a ***** dreams
How could you do me like that?
I took your family in
I put some cash in your pocket

Made you a man again
And now you let the fear put your *** in a place
Complicated to escape, it's a fools fate

What could you do, if it was up to you
I'd be dead now
I let the world know ***** you a coward
You could never be live (live squad) until you die

 


27 months a long time to sit down, but him being a convicted felon and only getting 27 months...he def got off light compared to what he was facing.


Thought his deal was for 18.

Either way... 27 months isn’t the worst sentence to have gotten given his circumstances.

But damn, Elz. Hold your head :smh:
 
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"On November 30, 1995, Stretch was murdered in a drive-by shooting exactly one year after the Quad Studio shooting, fuelling rumors. After a midnight Live Squad studio session with Nas and on his way to an event to see Biggie, Stretch dropped off his brother, Majesty, at his Queens Village home when two or three men pulled up in a black car alongside his green minivan and began chase, shooting at Stretch while driving. Stretch's minivan came to a crashing stop at the corner of 112th Avenue & 209th Street just after 12:30 A.M., and he was found dead with four bullet wounds in his back.[1] He was 27.

Tupac denied involvement with Stretch's murder, but continued to talk about him after death, even up to his own death on September 13, 1996. All Eyez On Me was released two months after Stretch's death with all disses intact, and the follow-up The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory (1996) contained more allusions to Stretch's supposed role in the 1994 attack on the tell-all diss track "Against All Odds": "And that ***** that was down for me, restin' dead / Switch sides, guess his new friends wanted him dead". Closing the final Tupac album, that track also fired shots at the Bad Boy camp and Nas – artists that he felt Stretch had switched allegiance to. Tupac did make peace with Nas in New York's Bryant Park on September 4, 1996, and even listened to It Was Written – featuring the Live Squad productions "Take It In Blood" and "Silent Murder" – as he made his fateful trip to Las Vegas for the Tyson-Seldon fight three days later. According to label boss Suge Knight, Tupac intended to remove the Nas disses from the Makaveli album but died before he could do so – there are no accounts if he resolved his feelings for his former friend.

Another theory for the murder would later emerge: "Stretch had robbed a big drug dealer of over 10 bricks [kilograms of cocaine]. There was pressure on the street for him to give those drugs back. And when he didn't, a hit was issued."[17] In April 2007, as part of a separate investigation into the murder of legendary DJ and fellow Jamaica, Queens, native Jam Master Jay, federal prosecutors named Ronald "Tenad" Washington as a suspect in both murders."

Never heard that last part involving JMJ's suspected killer. We need a documentary on Queens hip hop and the street element. From 50, Preme, E Money Baggs, Bimmy, Nas, Stretch, JMJ, all these dudes are connected.
 
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