Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

What would you guys say realistically is a good offer to keep Joe on EDS? (Per year)
 
Rap Radar messed up by going to Tidal.

They got views before. Even on Rap Radar's website you have to be a member of Tidal to watch.

Then they stopped adding it to YouTube for a minute, which was dumb. Nobody is going to join a music service for a podcast.

Did they ever? Royally screwed themselves. I remember I used to tune into their podcast daily. I was digging it. Literally I haven't heard a single podcast since they went to Tidal, and lowkey didn't realize that they still did them.
 
We’d have to have an approximation of how much the show is bringing in to gauge that, but I’d imagine that their most viewed show is raking in enough to compensate the talent fairly.
 
Based on Joe’s commentary on the podcast today, I’m man enough to say I was bugging by saying dude was displaying a lack of integrity yesterday.

“In receipt of your email, joe’s newly expired contract is indeed expired. We have moved on. If Joe is to come to work, that would be awesome, but he’ll accept this rate of [$200K]”

Yeah. Complex wild for that.

Has anybody else confirmed those numbers?

Hiphopoverload isn’t a credible source at all. I peeped their socials and it’s laughable.
 
Has anybody else confirmed those numbers?

Hiphopoverload isn’t a credible source at all. I peeped their socials and it’s laughable.

This is kind of my stance with the money issue right now. None of us can definitively say who's right and who's wrong here because NONE of us have the analytics and the breakdown of what's happening on the back end. Everything is hearsay at this point.
 
This is kind of my stance with the money issue right now. None of us can definitively say who's right and who's wrong here because NONE of us have the analytics and the breakdown of what's happening on the back end. Everything is hearsay at this point.

Nah. Complex can definitely cut the check
 
Calling someone self destructive is the same as them wanting to be compensated? So a football player holding out is the same as being self destructive? Lil Wayne or Tyga trying to get money from Birdman?

People really need to stop reposting this all over the net.

i think da gist of what he was saying was right....

da actual semantics of why he's leaving he's dead wrong about.

But Joe Budden can do that because he's not only a media personality, he's also a rapper, he's not like CTG who is da EJ on NBA on TNT, never played ball, so his lanes to secure da bag are more limited than say Charles Barkley.
 
I know what they can do...but until I know what exactly the show is grossing for Complex...how on earth can I come up with an imaginary number to say "so and so SHOULD be paid this or that"

Cause it's imaginary. I can understand wanting to be realistic but in this situation we talkin' hypotheticals
 
I know what they can do...but until I know what exactly the show is grossing for Complex...how on earth can I come up with an imaginary number to say "so and so SHOULD be paid this or that"

Listen to the podcast. They was making deals based on the show to be able to afford the check
 
Cause it's imaginary. I can understand wanting to be realistic but in this situation we talkin' hypotheticals

I get that...but there's variables to making that hypothetical as well.

If we're assuming how much Joe Budden should be paid...let me ask everyone...hypothetically...what do we all think Everyday Struggle is grossing?
 
i think da gist of what he was saying was right....

da actual semantics of why he's leaving he's dead wrong about.

But Joe Budden can do that because he's not only a media personality, he's also a rapper, he's not like CTG who is da EJ on NBA on TNT, never played ball, so his lanes to secure da bag are more limited than say Charles Barkley.

No, being self destructive and tearing something apart is not the same as wanting to be compensated for the work you put in.
 
Right. We can all say what we think Joe Budden should make, but none of us know actually how much money ES is making complex.

You'd probably have to know that in order to come up with an actual number topay Joe.
 
They was getting paid. They was making deals on the name of the show which has no huge production budget. They could've but a 1 to 2 mill check
 
CTG low key been plotting on EDS demise for numerous reasons. They’ve cut into breakfast clubs traffic and relevancy. Joes pod feeds off of EDS.

Ctg knows content is king.

I was telling dudes that from the beginning

It was especially a problem when they started getting guest regularly. Especially guest wanting to appear and them not even having to ask.

People might talk about a TBC interview once a month.
 
1.5 - 2 mill

Roman Atwood had over 8 million subs and multiple videos w 25+ mil views in 2015 and he took home 2m that year with content that’s vastly more family/kid friendly. That was like Top 10 then.

In 2017, 2mil would put you around the Top 20-25 earners. You telling me Joe by himself deserve Top 25 YouTube money bro ?
 
I'm not sure about compensation

but EDS makes Complex relevant. If that attracts you to their website or youtube channel, that means you might watch their other vids or spend more time on their site for advertising dollars.

To the point they can probably start a whole media network revolving around EDS. Would Gil and the porn chick want to be on Complex otherwise?

They also started doing the Sole Collector vids.
 
Roman Atwood had over 8 million subs and multiple videos w 25+ mil views in 2015 and he took home 2m that year with content that’s vastly more family/kid friendly. That was like Top 10 then.

In 2017, 2mil would put you around the Top 20-25 earners. You telling me Joe by himself deserve Top 25 YouTube money bro ?

Comparing YouTube channels don't provide anything because we all know the money is different woth how folks interact with ads and what moves they make outside of youtube Fact is complex was making sponsor deals off of ES that warranted a check larger than 200k. One of those deals was a nike deal
 
Impossible to say without more stats to back it up. But if he wanted 1-2 mil, he'd HAVE to bend on the sponsors and guests and content. That's a lot of money for someone working 8 hours a week who does basically no prep. And without an easy way to track revenue.
 
The money from Google themselves was likely "small" because they weren't doing crazy numbers if these numbers from Forbes are realistic/right:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmc...-billion-youtube-views-bring-in/#7502fff74aec

According to an average estimated and published recently by Information Is Beautiful, YouTube may pay as little as $0.0006 for every view, which adds up to only $1.8 million for 3 billion plays. A previous estimate suggested that just after he had reached 2 billion streams, Psy had made about $2 million on YouTube, though since then, ad rates have dipped, so it is possible that Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee have earned less money for 3 billion views than Psy did for his two.

The real money would be from how much they were getting from ads. I'd say $600-750k would have a more realistic max for Joe with Ak getting a lil less $500-650k
 
The money from Google themselves was likely "small" because they weren't doing crazy numbers if these numbers from Forbes are realistic/right:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmc...-billion-youtube-views-bring-in/#7502fff74aec



The real money would be from how much they were getting from ads. I'd say $600-750k would have a more realistic max for Joe with Ak getting a lil less $500-650k

I dont' see a scenario where AK is getting paid less than Joe tbh if anything it probably should be the other way around.
 
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