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I can see Complex thinking Joe is a lil bit more "important" than Ak considering Joe "created" the show
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I can see Complex thinking Joe is a lil bit more "important" than Ak considering Joe "created" the show
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Don't know if some of y'all hate or just dumb, this show was real big. If it keeps on this pace and gets bigger, you get more and more advertisement and sponsors. Like he said on the podcast, Nike and Spotify. Those are two big *** names. Complex was getting real money and would only be getting more. If I had to guess, I would say Joe should have gotten around 700K-1.3M a year. It was his show so I'm surprised he wasn't getting more and I'm surprised the contract didn't say some **** like it's his show and if he leaves, he takes the show with him.
I saw him and CTG gotta show on Revolt coming out called The Rap Up 2017. Go back and talk about everything from 2017. Assuming it's just one episode.
Joe has also been hinting at for months about all these companies he's met with. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a similar show on Revolt or Vice BUT Noreaga said Revolt didn't pay well so I don't know.
I saw him and CTG gotta show on Revolt coming out called The Rap Up 2017. Go back and talk about everything from 2017. Assuming it's just one episode.
Joe has also been hinting at for months about all these companies he's met with. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a similar show on Revolt or Vice BUT Noreaga said Revolt didn't pay well so I don't know.
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If someone is in re-negotiation with their employer for a NEW contract and asks for a particular amount...that person and their legal team would have TANGIBLE evidence to point to and justify why they should be paid that amount. I'd like to think that Joe walked into that meeting and was aware of his worth and had the charts and graphs to visualize his worth and why he should be paid a particular amount.
If that happened and that's information that hasn't been shared with us....that's one thing. He didn't quite answer that on his podcast. But the idea of "ES got alot of views...Joe should get millions" doesn't quite make much sense without the pertinent information...and right now "alot of views" isn't it for us on the outside looking in.
If that happened and that's information that hasn't been shared with us....that's one thing. He didn't quite answer that on his podcast. But the idea of "ES got alot of views...Joe should get millions" doesn't quite make much sense without the pertinent information...and right now "alot of views" isn't it for us on the outside looking in.
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Lol at the crackhead thinking he worth 2 mill
no spot on OVO radio?
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True.
It's plausible to believe that more revenue could have been made through direct ads before/during/after the show by Complex to get some money direct from advertisers. There's a number of ways Complex could have taken this shows popularity and monetized it all but it comes down to whether they think Joe is necessary to keep it working.
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Bingo.
We need to hear from Complex.
Complex in Crisis as Joe Budden Exits Everyday Struggle: Breaking Down a Preventable PR Disaster
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Look at my guy Manny
Bun been down with Baby and them since like Ninety Treeeee. Turk said they used to look up to Bun, and drive him around when he came to NO to record. Peep Bun here at the 1:25 to 1:33 mark
its an honor to have mannie all in the videos all on the records“erry body know about b from UGK”
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Complex has tried numerous times for relevancy in the EDS space. They had Combat Jack for a minute, which they whitewashed and made terrible. They had Desus & Mero.
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I think Complex was just done with Joe. If you're under contract and your company gets a sponsorship, that doesn't mean you automatically get a cut of whatever they pay your company. You can absolutely use that to negotiate in the future but if you sabotage the deal because you want 20% of whatever Spotify paid Complex - the top isn't gonna be happy. That's really not gonna fly anywhere.
He coulda used all the sponsors as leverage when it came time for negotiations. You better believe Complex would be singing a different tune if they had 8 sponsors ready to back out if Joe was gone. Instead they came to him with a take it or leave it offer he turned down 3 months ago. Easy way to make it look like Joe asked for too much money and not that they wanted him gone.
He coulda used all the sponsors as leverage when it came time for negotiations. You better believe Complex would be singing a different tune if they had 8 sponsors ready to back out if Joe was gone. Instead they came to him with a take it or leave it offer he turned down 3 months ago. Easy way to make it look like Joe asked for too much money and not that they wanted him gone.
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I have a pretty good understanding of how it works bro. Lil Bishop ('Zias and BLou Reactions') is literally fam. I know that different channels get different ads and get different reactions. I know that not every video is served ads either.
Without any real analytics its hard to ballpark anything or say who could afford to give who what. How many people that watch EDS have adblockers for instance?
Also, why are we still stuck on this 200k number from a non credible website?
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This is what I don't get. They've been trying to get into this area for like a decade, now they're half steppin'?
I mean, I don't think anyone should be surprised though...like you said Complex had Desus vs Mero and The Combat Jack Show back when podcasting was just bubbling and no one was really creating a visual to go along with it. They dropped the ball. My first instinct was to say Joe was self-sabotaging again, but it seems like Complex just didn't want to go all in with television, which is probably a huge mistake.
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no way in hell I would watch a show with Charlemagne AND Budden couldn’t pay me
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CTG is that homie that you gotta watch bro...convenient lol
this prolly gonna be dope tho
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but Drake brought CTG some bottles
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That outro was atrocious. Shoulda just called the show "This Year"
Could be good for a few chuckles
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This could be dope, or could come off as an attempt to recreate ES.
Diddy and Shane Smith the only TV execs with foresight.
Diddy and Shane Smith the only TV execs with foresight.
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Video editing team weak as hell
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Damn man. I know you like Drake and all, but every post my g? That stan behavior ain’t healthy
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bro this is so ******* hard
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these are the real intangible problems with creating content on your ownwhen a media corp handles everything you just have to provide the content and not worry about things like lighting, mic work, stage sets, video editing and on screen graphics.
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Did Versace just embrace Hip Hop Culture?
Where am I?
That was very dope though. I was wrong as hell about Migos.
Where am I?
That was very dope though. I was wrong as hell about Migos.
