Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[Maximus Meridius]

That's wassup Mase can laugh at hisself

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[BIG LEEMELONE]

This **** is timeless

 

[Maximus Meridius]

 

[tomdiginson]

 

[thegrandpuba26]

“Ya gotta believe…”

 

[Peep Game]

It’s already in the thread that’s the wrong Batman that produced it

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Are we sure it's the same one??

 

[2163O1baller90]

Are we sure it's the same one??

According to wiki it's him

 

[maq25060]

They definitely using him because he a got issue with the NBA and he's against the vax. At the same time the NBA should be helping him the big 3 out if they're gonna practice what they preach. I don't think it's a good look to sit give Tucker Carlson views with your name but I don't think it's good to give any of these political people on either side shine. When these rappers new rappers are buddy buddy with Kamala and Biden it looks just as corny to me but the wave of social media is those are the "good guys".

Cube is one of these rappers that came up in a era where republicans AND democracts and where conservatives AND liberals was tryna censor his music. Young Cube would be hated by this cancel culture/agreewitheverythingwesay/the "left" crowd.

Great post.

I'm still having a hard time accepting Cube and Jim Brown (RIP) out here getting used or, even worse, tap dancing. But, man...it's a bad look.

 

[6pac]

Here y’all go again tryna tear down ****** doing REAL work just because who they chose to have a conversation with

Everything is tribes and labels now lol. **** who Ice Cube actually is that’s all discounted now because he sat down with a right winger lol

 

[Deleted member 248173]

Saying it ain’t that bad or why not, have no idea who Tucker Carlson or what he says about us.

 

[6pac]

Beans is a 1988-1998 type of rapper. He was just born and came out as a rapper in the wrong era in my opinion. Back in that era, a rapper just had to know how to spit real good, while the label would help with features and getting them their couple of hit singles, while they could focus on releasing a good body of work on the album, so it could be a classic album.

Beans was taking the Scarface 2.0 Route, but he didn't realize that the rape game and fans had changed dramatically, in how the rappers were releasing music by the time he got signed to rocafella. He was acting like rocafella was the old Def Jam, Death Row, Rap-A-Lot, Ruthless, Bad Boy, that only release hit singles to the radio stations, and then you release an album.

That old business model had faded by the time state property and Beans got with the ROC. All of those Houston Rappers, G-Unit, Dipset, Lil Wayne, LOX, The Game, Nipsey, Stack Bundles, Max B, French Montana and a few others were flooding the streets/local mom and pops music stores/underground scene with MIXTAPES in abundance. From 2002 to 2009, those people i named were releasing anywhere from 1 to 2 Mixtapes per month at a minimum, sometimes more.

That changed the landscape of how us the consumers viewed and valued the music. A group releasing 4 to 6 Mixtapes every 3 to 6 months, with high quality album like songs, are going to keep to keep the general publics attention way more than a group of artists who are releasing average albums 2 to 3 times a year.

Beans released a couple of Mixtapes, but it wasn't anything close to the consistency and abundance to the people i named on that list. Beans and State Property weren't flooding the underground scene at a high rate, to gain the momentum to generate high record sales because of it. I remember underground scene being so crazy back then, that you had artists like Max B and French Montana capitalizing off of what Dipset started with the Roc with their mixtape run.

2002-2009 was the Gold Rush of Rap, you just had to stay in the studio and flood the streets and mom and pop stores with Mixtapes back then. In short, We should've gotten multiple mixtapes with album quality songs and freestyles every other month from Beans, Oschino, Peedi, Freeway, and Young Guns for atleast 3 to 4 years minimum. Kanye followed that formula as well, and that's why he succeeded way more just like Dipset did. Kanye just released alot of music on a mainstream level back then. He was flooding the market with collabs and features with big name artists on a consistent basis non stop. You basically had to take the Houston Tx Mixtape Underground King route to cement your rap legacy back then, which everybody i named did. Beans and State Property just didn't have that work ethic like those other groups of rappers did.

Seemed like they were all sitting up under jay and dame all day while taking a long time working on albums and doing state property magizine photo shoots. This is something to think about in a big way = it's a reason why Jim Jones and French Montana and 50 cent and Lil Wayne are still somewhat relevant in the culture, maybe not at the level as they were at their peak, but they are in leaps and bounds in comparison to Beans and State Property is at this moment, as we all know.

Dope post. Especially the 1988-1998 rappers vs after. Subtle **** like this is some of the most important **** in ****** careers and a lot of times you can only really call it years later after the fact like this.

I actually wish Ye did more tapes…

 

[RUSSIAN CREAM]

Everything is tribes and labels now lol. **** who Ice Cube actually is that’s all discounted now because he sat down with a right winger lol

You can’t please these ****** man Ice Cube of all ppl being a sellout is CRAZY. **** blows my mind. ****** can’t reach a certain level of success without their own ppl dragging them down.

 

[Deleted member 248173]

You can’t please these ****** man Ice Cube of all ppl being a sellout is CRAZY. **** blows my mind. ****** can’t reach a certain level of success without their own ppl dragging them down.

Meeting with two klansmen without hoods with the biggest voices isn’t that bad?

 

[RUSSIAN CREAM]

Meeting with two klansmen without hoods with the biggest voices isn’t that bad?

Meeting up with them saying what though? What did Cube say in the interview that was controversial or shows he’s a sellout?

 

[3stheluckynumbe]

I think any person can gain an understanding if they sit down with an open mind to have a discussion with someone who’s ideals may differ. With that said, some folks just shouldn’t have access to you if you have a core tenet of beliefs.

I, personally, wouldn’t sit down with Tucker Carlson with the intention of changing his mind. Maybe there’s some business insight to be gained but talking race relations with a dude that’s publicly argued in bad faith for a long time just seems wrong.

Cube is led by his desire to make his brand bigger. Not discounting his contributions to hip hop, but it’s obvious what dude is motivated by.

Stop expecting these “public figures” to be anything other than capitalists.

 

[donewithjs]

Shan sound bitter

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Meeting up with them saying what though? What did Cube say in the interview that was controversial or shows he’s a sellout?

He didn't say anything that was off code. He's not talking like Kanye was on his "slavery was a choice" tour. People just don't like the image of it and I get that but it's too emotional. A lot of black folks have their emotions in politics that why democratic are able to finesse these votes from us w/o actually doing ****.

 

[uncalled4boy]

Shan sound bitter

Punishment For Letting KRS-One Live After The Bridge Is Over.

 

[Manny Fernandez718]

Is Shan even clean ?

 

[6pac]

Cube for whatever he tryna do, probably regarding the Big 3, wants access to Carlson’s fanbase the same way Carlson wants to be able to have content with Cube to do the “I have black friends” equivalent when people call him a right winger. It is what it is but it’s ridiculous to act like him simply being on the show discredits Ice ****in Cube and his legacy. @ getting emotional over talking point television political pundits yet ****** make excuses for actual politicians who on record saying similar rhetoric…

 

[a blinkin]

Cube is led by his desire to make his brand bigger. Not discounting his contributions to hip hop, but it’s obvious what dude is motivated by.

This. His m.o. is to expand his brand, and to do so he has to expand his base. Tucker gets a look from the urban base, Cube gets a look from the right (who I imagine are all ears when they hear the anti-vax rhetoric from a Black man). People using each other to get what they want is the American way. Cube’s not the first. Damn sure won’t be the last.

 

[blacklion23]

“The n**** that made House Party 4 did that ”

 

[wavycrocket]

Stop expecting these “public figures” to be anything other than capitalists.

 

[wavycrocket]

Cube for whatever he tryna do, probably regarding the Big 3, wants access to Carlson’s fanbase the same way Carlson wants to be able to have content with Cube to do the “I have black friends” equivalent when people call him a right winger. It is what it is but it’s ridiculous to act like him simply being on the show discredits Ice ****in Cube and his legacy. @ getting emotional over talking point television political pundits yet ****** make excuses for actual politicians who on record saying similar rhetoric…

It’s honestly that Cube is in business with them . He didn’t “stay true”. And that is ok. It is what it is.

But It’s very fair to call him out, for sitting down and knowingly letting himself be exploited by a white supremacist. All the rappers do it. Knowingly or unknowingly. People just hold cube to the light, because of what he’s said in the past. It contradicts it. That is where it comes from.

I have a working theory that all the mega wealthy/powerful rap moguls we have today, are compromised in a series of business deals they didn’t know about in the late 90s/10s (Dame Dash kinda alludes to it). And I was watching a Drink Champs, where NORE kind of alludes to those type of deals to watch for, when mentioning Pras. And the payback to that comes in many forms. It’s actually a lot of what we been talking about in here and general hip hop consensus for decades. But we’re seeing it play out.

Tucker Carlson really is like the embodiment of every single thing Cube would be against tho. Legit no reason to sit down with dude. And there has been a concentrated effort to white wash him. Tucker may go down as one of the most effective propagandists in world history when it’s all said and done.

I honestly think Cube is just doing what his handlers are deploying him to do at this time . He’ll be on some other ****, after 2024.