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he did good true...and his show and influence was felt and appreciated by blacks... but his perspective and outlook was different then the others... and in my own life and personal experiences i would say id favor lets say a person like a cornell west then a bryant gumble... considering my background and life experiences.....The thing is everytime someone says "White wash" it's sometimes a positive thing. Look at the influence Bill Cosby had on the black family circuit and his influence on other black sitcoms that came afterwards. Sometimes when a person says whitewashed, it is their own jealousy and insecurities about their own situation resurfacing. Yo he gon' leave the hood to go to college, sell out. This happens a lot in hood across America, whenever someone tries to do something "positive" they are considered white. I think a lot of Cosby's views is due to the frustration of many of the ills that plague the black community, sometimes it can be viewed as elitist for good reason.
Nothing wrong with being diverse and well-rounded, if it is at the core of who you are as a human being. Some people weren't raised in a bubble on some 3 block radius in Flint, Michigan. If I like white women, it just means I like white women it doesn't mean I got raised in the Valley. Some people get their different tastes attributed to conformity by people who can't possibly fathom how someone can be different. And the funny thing is sometimes the person isn't different in every way from the majority just in a few areas.
Like I said, a cornball white man in the early 1900s aka the nword lover.....very interesting parallel. Both based on ignorance.
But the thing is with cosby i dont knock him but i do see especially in that time and era.... what he did, how he went about doing it...and his sentiments and almost condescending and elitest attitude i cant say with a similiar background as him i would have went the route in which he did.
Ppl werent frustrated in what he did it was who he became and his outlook on life blacks, and the state of blacks. Like i said the others of which he was a crew with all did relatively well... its not like **** gregory is some unknown bum, red foxx wasn exactly some basement comic, paul mooney was the head writer for the tonight show and many of bob hope stand ups... and well richard in many circles is held as one of if not the most accomplished and best standup comic of all time. So i really dont see why they would be jealous and envious of him.
I think while i was relatively young at the time blacks in general with the whole panther movement etc... the whole malcolm and martin situations....the big implementation of crack in inner cities...just the overall state of blacks. Blacks felt like. One he was a guy from the streets, he was a raw edgy upfront tell it how it is comic... he was an open advocate for black rights etc... almost on some black panther steez. He spoke out on ills and life in general about blacks of all classes and social status.
Then the change came...little known fact, fat albert was actually a standup routine about whinos junkies, a out of work brother etc.. just some dudes from his hood that he would often reference to..in a comical and yet a enlightening way ala like w. kamau bell...turned and totally changed that. Dude was dressed up in track suits kangos...sneakers pimp playa fly suits.... um then what the play it safe coogi sweaters and dad dockers,dude would often speak out on ills and wrongs in the black community, then he turned into imma plead the 5th, i dont really want to talk about it aka politically correct.... almost like he was malcolm x one day, and the next some hushed mouth brother.
He went from blacks schooling education is unfair and inadequate...and needs to be balanced, to oh i made it thats some lame excuse and you negros is just lazy.. he went from the pool playing, jook joint, isaac hayes listening, shooting ball in south philly, to the chess playing micheal bolton, squash player. which is fine... but instead of embracing both... he basically said oh im distancing myself from these things as they arent generally practiced by whites..so that stuff is ghetto and negative and ppl who do it are ignorant etc...
I mean i could go on and on but you get the point. It wasnt he success in which ppl hated him, it was the more successfull and accepting he became with whites, the more he detached himself from blacks (outside of the ones who was at the level of success as he was) and he frowned and looked down on those very blacks. he no longer address and spoke out to the ills and problems in the black community, for fear he would lose ground and acceptance from the whites, he no longer siad hey why cant all black or minority comics open and headline clubs... once he headlined and was accepted... he instead oh see they do let blacks in you just suck and need to work harder.
he went from complaining there isnt enough blacks in tv, be it on the screen/behind the screen, to once he got his,oh yall black folks is lazy and dont wanna work hard and jealous hating on me...and its because yall wont shuck andd jive and kiss white butt like me. he basically picked up diversity which is good but spit on and basically brushed aside his roots, and who he was as a person his upbringing and his environment for fear whites wouldnt be accepting of it and he would return to a traveling small market little known oh he funny for a black comic.
It became apparent when the like of the flip wilsons, paul mooneys etc...achieved the same sort of love and admirations but when needed would speak out on injustices, would address clear discrimination, wouldnt say oh well hell with the rest of you negros, i made it and if you dont you lazy ghetto etc.. they embraced other cultures and diversity of others....but they still held on to theirs, and they didnt switch up and change or put their blackness on hold for fear of displeasing whites like cosby did.
I mean cosby changed..as in he no longer addressed talked about things going on socially, race, etc..hell even stopped cursing. he basically truth be told once he hooked up with that white girl...who dad happened to be a head honcho of nbc... basically said hell you need to drop the blackness get as white as you can, and ill make you a star... forget all them other negros...and he basically said if itll make me a star...shoot yea..ill bleach my skin if ya want me too, too massa. Add to that, the other things he did to kinda ish on blacks... like telling eddie murphy he needed to change up his act, his language, and his attire and his whole demeanor, as in he was too hood and white ppl think you to ghetto.
Thank god pryor/mooney said f that cornball sellout negro..and do your delirious/raw act exactly as plan. And you know what it worked, whites ppl of all races loved it...so much so it was number 1 in box offices and in terms of ticket sells (not money thats kevin hart) is the most successfull set of standups of ALL TIME..and i think eddie murphy pretty much is a successfull brother.