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Not as memorable as catching a foul ball.
Texas Ranger's fan falls to his death
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second life-threatening incident this season. baseball needs a LOCKOUT, not bball or football!
RIP....
RIP....
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second life-threatening incident this season. baseball needs a LOCKOUT, not bball or football!
RIP....
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Getting a ball from the team shop and catching a foul ball thrown by Josh Hamilton is nowhere near the same thing whatsoever.
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trelvis tha thrilla
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Getting a ball from the team shop and catching a foul ball thrown by Josh Hamilton is nowhere near the same thing whatsoever.
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actual game ball > ball purchased at the souvenir shop
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actual game ball > ball purchased at the souvenir shop
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Damn shame.
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Damn shame.
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Which law school did you go to?
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Which law school did you go to?
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Word, if you actually went to law school and that's the understanding of causation that you came away with... I don't even know.
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Word, if you actually went to law school and that's the understanding of causation that you came away with... I don't even know.
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he went to the Texas Rangers Law School
can't you see?
can't you see?
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he went to the Texas Rangers Law School
can't you see?
can't you see?
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Getting a ball from the team shop and catching a foul ball thrown by Josh Hamilton is nowhere near the same thing whatsoever.
actual game ball > ball purchased at the souvenir shop
I hear everything you all are saying and of course I see the difference between a game used ball and a ball from the team store, but ultimately the guy is dead because he tried to get a game ball, cause he wanted something memorable. Not saying he knew he could potentially be putting his life at risk when he reached over to grab the ball, but it is what it is now and it's truly unfortuante. Always, trust me when I tell you there's nothing special about any regular ball that goes into the stands. Be it a foul ball or a homerun ball unless it's either autographed or authenticated with a MLB sticker and number on it.
Of course theres nothing different, its the fact it is GAME USED that makes it better. Would you rather have ball that Jordan used in a game or just go buy one from the team store?
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Getting a ball from the team shop and catching a foul ball thrown by Josh Hamilton is nowhere near the same thing whatsoever.
actual game ball > ball purchased at the souvenir shop
I hear everything you all are saying and of course I see the difference between a game used ball and a ball from the team store, but ultimately the guy is dead because he tried to get a game ball, cause he wanted something memorable. Not saying he knew he could potentially be putting his life at risk when he reached over to grab the ball, but it is what it is now and it's truly unfortuante. Always, trust me when I tell you there's nothing special about any regular ball that goes into the stands. Be it a foul ball or a homerun ball unless it's either autographed or authenticated with a MLB sticker and number on it.
Of course theres nothing different, its the fact it is GAME USED that makes it better. Would you rather have ball that Jordan used in a game or just go buy one from the team store?
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riiiiight
Because the announcer KNEW that the person was severely hurt and he KNEW he was going to die, right?
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riiiiight
Because the announcer KNEW that the person was severely hurt and he KNEW he was going to die, right?
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Didn't go to law school,Originally Posted by PersiaFly
Word, if you actually went to law school and that's the understanding of causation that you came away with... I don't even know.
However, I'm all for Tort Reform.
The Rangers will probably break the family off with money, because these organizations avoid litigation (except Frank McCourt). Whether they are at fault or not. People go over railings, it happens, and you often don't hear about it because the matters are handled swiftly. They will not fight in court because it's a bad PR move.
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A sad example is the toddler who fell from the Staples Center suite. Infant was 2 years old, the parents snuck into the suite and were too busy taking pictures and their toddler went over the railing,
You know who is against higher railings? Fans
True story.
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Didn't go to law school,Originally Posted by PersiaFly
Word, if you actually went to law school and that's the understanding of causation that you came away with... I don't even know.
However, I'm all for Tort Reform.
The Rangers will probably break the family off with money, because these organizations avoid litigation (except Frank McCourt). Whether they are at fault or not. People go over railings, it happens, and you often don't hear about it because the matters are handled swiftly. They will not fight in court because it's a bad PR move.
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A sad example is the toddler who fell from the Staples Center suite. Infant was 2 years old, the parents snuck into the suite and were too busy taking pictures and their toddler went over the railing,
You know who is against higher railings? Fans
True story.
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The question of whether or not the Rangers could be liable here is actually an interesting and close one I think. The issue of causation is what I was talking about. The fall 100% "caused" his death in legal terms, because it was the actual + proximate cause of his death. That means that 1) had he not fell, he wouldn't have died, and 2) death was a foreseeable result of such a fall. Definitely the case here.
But about the Rangers possibly being liable here, I don't think it's an open and shut case either way. A player threw the ball to the fan, sort of inviting an attempt to catch it. And the fan didn't seem to do anything out of the ordinary in trying to catch it. He leaned over the railing like most other people would. had the railing been higher, he probably wouldn't have fell. But there is always assumption of risk in this sort of situation, it's just a matter of whether you assume the risk of falling over the railing while trying to make a fairly routine catch of a ball thrown to you by a player.
You're absolutely right that they'll probably try to settle this quietly, though.
But about the Rangers possibly being liable here, I don't think it's an open and shut case either way. A player threw the ball to the fan, sort of inviting an attempt to catch it. And the fan didn't seem to do anything out of the ordinary in trying to catch it. He leaned over the railing like most other people would. had the railing been higher, he probably wouldn't have fell. But there is always assumption of risk in this sort of situation, it's just a matter of whether you assume the risk of falling over the railing while trying to make a fairly routine catch of a ball thrown to you by a player.
You're absolutely right that they'll probably try to settle this quietly, though.
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The question of whether or not the Rangers could be liable here is actually an interesting and close one I think. The issue of causation is what I was talking about. The fall 100% "caused" his death in legal terms, because it was the actual + proximate cause of his death. That means that 1) had he not fell, he wouldn't have died, and 2) death was a foreseeable result of such a fall. Definitely the case here.
But about the Rangers possibly being liable here, I don't think it's an open and shut case either way. A player threw the ball to the fan, sort of inviting an attempt to catch it. And the fan didn't seem to do anything out of the ordinary in trying to catch it. He leaned over the railing like most other people would. had the railing been higher, he probably wouldn't have fell. But there is always assumption of risk in this sort of situation, it's just a matter of whether you assume the risk of falling over the railing while trying to make a fairly routine catch of a ball thrown to you by a player.
You're absolutely right that they'll probably try to settle this quietly, though.
But about the Rangers possibly being liable here, I don't think it's an open and shut case either way. A player threw the ball to the fan, sort of inviting an attempt to catch it. And the fan didn't seem to do anything out of the ordinary in trying to catch it. He leaned over the railing like most other people would. had the railing been higher, he probably wouldn't have fell. But there is always assumption of risk in this sort of situation, it's just a matter of whether you assume the risk of falling over the railing while trying to make a fairly routine catch of a ball thrown to you by a player.
You're absolutely right that they'll probably try to settle this quietly, though.