The 2014-2015 NBA Season Thread. Lock It Up Please: The Golden State Warriors Are The Champions

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Come on Sea, you admitted you don't know much about AAU nor American HS ball, tough for you to make declarations like "HS ball is an after school activity"
 
its something kids do outside of going to classes, quite literally an after school activity :lol

im mean yeah technically it's after school but main focus is basketball they have 24/7 acess to the gym and they spend way more time on basketball that than school.

the focus of any highschool should be to give kids an education, not basketball

well it isn't, main focus is basketball. you get just enough education to qualify.
 
Come on Sea, you admitted you don't know much about AAU nor American HS ball, tough for you to make declarations like "HS ball is an after school activity"

Lack of knowledge on a subject has never stopped him from arguing before :lol
He keeps reeling you guys in :lol :{
 
 
Come on Sea, you admitted you don't know much about AAU nor American HS ball, tough for you to make declarations like "HS ball is an after school activity"
its not like i meant people met an hour after school on thursdays to shoot around and play pickup, of course highschools take it very seriously. but i would expect and hope aau which ONLY focuses on basketball does more for a kids skill development than highschool which is school and basketball 
 
HS coaches in the USA are basically part time teacher, full time coaches if that makes sense it is way different than Canada

Also HS shouldn't necessarily be about mastering skills, some people will never use. It should be more about helping students be productive citizens
 
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Lack of knowledge on a subject has never stopped him from arguing before :lol
He keeps reeling you guys in :lol :{

I was getting ready to say. He just said he didn't even know what AAU was a couple pages ago. Why the hell is anyone going back and forth with him on this topic?
 
 
Come on Sea, you admitted you don't know much about AAU nor American HS ball, tough for you to make declarations like "HS ball is an after school activity"
Lack of knowledge on a subject has never stopped him from arguing before
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He keeps reeling you guys in
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Most public high schools do not have good coaches. When those players end up on AAU teams with no real instruction, players just aren't going to develope like they should.
 
Most public high schools do not have good coaches. When those players end up on AAU teams with no real instruction, players just aren't going to develope like they should.
thats what im saying, most highschools dont have basketball as their top priority. dudes bringing up 3/12312432 schools in the US that only focus on basketball just for the sake of argument 
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dont even need to know much about the US education system, the fact that 99% of highschools dont see sports as their top priority is common sense

yall cant be this dense 
 
Right. However, they play that brand of basketball because they have to, relative to the U.S., who are flat out superior in virtually every aspect of basketball. If they were as talented as some of the elite prospects that are on Draftexpress and Rivals, you probably would see a more narcissistic and ego centric brand of basketball too.

I don't understand how we can even compare our prospects to prospects overseas, when they turn pro before their 16th birthday. Meanwhile, in the states instead of making sure prospects are the best they can be, we force them to go to school and balance the two.

America in general loves everything young. We love youth culture, we fret at growing older, and we damn sure love our prodigies which is why we cater to the Lebron's and OJ Mayo's at an early age. I can see why this is a bad thing, but it hardly is the reasoning behind why amateur basketball "is suffering" in the states.

Ranking these kids while they're just hitting middle school is the reason why amateur basketball is suffering

These scouts already making these kids feel like they're better than they really are, how many top ranked 7-8th graders actually stay top ranked once they hit 11-12th grade when everyone is fully developed just like them,

& how many of them actually turn out to be succesful pros like they were hyped up to be, hs rankings are a joke, the lack of dedication from the ego boost at a young age is hurting these players more than anything

Go on hoopsmixtape, ball is life & you would think every player on there is the next star in the nba :{ its a joke
 
Also factor in just how many kids want to play ball growing up in America, the sheer volume is probably too much for the number of quality coaches we even have
 
not sure why people always get so defensive when someone says that something could be better. like they personally insulted your newborn baby or something 
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Sweeping generalizations every where.

The fact of the matter is, these bad AAU coaches, bad high school coaches, and poor fundamental skills coaches have produced what I think is the most talented crop of NBA players ever.
 
HS coaches in the USA are basically part time teacher, full time coaches if that makes sense it is way different than Canada

Also HS shouldn't necessarily be about mastering skills, some people will never use. It should be more about helping students be productive citizens

not at serious programs.

coaches are coaches full time, with coaching staffs and multiple assistants sometimes former nba players.

they recruit kids on the basis that they will take them to the league.

sad but reality.

LeBron also said something a few days/weeks back about AAU ball. Similar to what Kobe said.

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lebron's commets.

this doesn't make any sense considering, Team usa was in shambles in the late 90's early 2000, and iso lation ball was king. The state of team basketball is the best its ever been it's certainly its gotten way better since lebron was in high school.

Lebron and Kobe falling into "things were bettter in the old days" trap.
 
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Also factor in just how many kids want to play ball growing up in America, the sheer volume is probably too much for the number of quality coaches we even have
its impractical for everyone to be handed a good coach, if you (or your kid) shows real potential then its on you to go seek out the environment that will give you the best chance to be successful. just like if you want to go to a good med school its on you to work hard and apply to that school in order to get the best medical education, since theres not enough good med teachers for everyone that wants to be a doctor 
 
Ranking these kids while they're just hitting middle school is the reason why amateur basketball is suffering

These scouts already making these kids feel like they're better than they really are, how many top ranked 7-8th graders actually stay top ranked once they hit 11-12th grade when everyone is fully developed just like them,

& how many of them actually turn out to be succesful pros like they were hyped up to be, hs rankings are a joke, the lack of dedication from the ego boost at a young age is hurting these players more than anything

Go on hoopsmixtape, ball is life & you would think every player on there is the next star in the nba :{ its a joke

Your issue is with the sensationlistic (if thats even a word :lol) nature that is native to young people in the united states and in sports especially. There is nothing inherently wrong with the state of basketball on the youth level. The Fundamentals are there. If you only look at the superior players and athletes then of course you would say otherwise.
 
 
 
HS coaches in the USA are basically part time teacher, full time coaches if that makes sense it is way different than Canada
to be fair its easier to be a history or pe teacher than a basketball coach at any level
I don't quite understand what you are saying
basically the expectations are lower for a history or pe teacher, pretty much just need to pass the time and hopefully the kids learn something along the way. while as a basketball coach you're expected to develop the kids since every parent thinks their kid is the next big thing
 
Jahlil Okafor is going to be the number 1 pick in all likelihood and is one the most skilled post up players i've ever seen.

USA basketball is fine.. could be better, but is fine.
 
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