The 2014-2015 NBA Season Thread. Lock It Up Please: The Golden State Warriors Are The Champions

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if u reread that case, kobe forced himself on her. he tried to block her exit like tight end. and he wanted some dominateix crap. dudes life got messed up from then on. you have to wonder if later on, other stuff might come up.
 
that second clip where he's going 1 on 4...he heaves it with 9 seconds left on the clock. Steve Kerr's reaction said it all. Flame on but I don't see any maturity in that play. He's still young so everyone thinks it's "cute", if Bron or Kobe did the same critics would say "they're destroying the game!"
steph wasn't playing in that arena... he thought it was game 7 wcf 3 seconds left on the clock... he's practiced plays like that 100000 times... you could tell Steve was gonna bench him but it dropped... LeBron could never pull that move.... frobe maybe....
 
Just realized all 3 of biggest front runnders for MVP right now have no ink between Harden/Steph/Russ.



Stern somewhere smiling.

steph is inked on his wrist
russ in that tru religion commercial :evil: unless he got some ink in his covered areas :lol:
 
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That Kobe case is very peculiar. You would think it wasn't his first time and others would have come forward.
 
 
All opinion on who has the better legacy or who was the better player but I'll go with LeBron

I don't think Kobe would have accomplished what LeBron did if they switched career paths

Kobe having to carry those Cleveland teams with Mike Brown? I don't see that ending up well at all
After smashing the regular season 2 years in a row in Cleveland, once the playoffs end badly the squad is bad. 

During that second year they won 60 something, I remember analysts across the league saying "this is why this team was put together, to win Lebron and Cleveland a championship." After not winning it all, it was "he doesn't have any help." That's when I knew how his career narrative would go. The only time he had help when he was with 2 all NBA players and a bunch of ring chasing shooters. That's crazy. 

Everyone's entitled though. 
 
so apparently russel westbrook is holding the thunder back?
He is, they need a pass first PG who can really run the offense, not some undersized SG who thinks he's the best player in the L.
 If Russ was pulling 10 or 12 shots a night and 'running the offense', they'd be 10th in the West. Dude is near the top of the league in assists and yall talking about running an offense with subpar pieces. 
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Seems like the height of the tattoo era in the NBA has passed. Seems like fewer guys are getting them these days or getting fewer tats. Does AD have any? Neither CP3 or Blake do.
 
Russ God!

I was watching NBA fights videos Vogel is always getting in front of David West :lol: that man deserved that contract extension.
 
Westbrook's season numbers at a 1962 pace would be 36.7ppg, 9.4rpg, 10.8apg. Russ plays 11 minutes fewer per game than Oscar Robertson did. Back then, the league had 1.34x more possessions per game in Robertson's era than compared to the 2015 season. Westbrook's numbers over the last MONTH at a 1962 pace would be: 44.6ppg, 13.5rpg, 15apg.

I thought that was interesting. From @peteredmiston
 
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@Lakers: Julius Randle has been cleared for full weight bearing non-contact basketball activities.

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I thought that was interesting. From @peteredmiston

1) Those numbers are incredible, adds some interesting perspective.

2) Shows you just how silly and flawed Oscar Robertson's era of basketball was which is why I've always felt that his greatness should be skewed to a degree. Or, at the very least when people bring up his statistical godliness, they need to provide context.

3) Would love to see Westbrook's numbers compared to say, a 1983-84' pace, which was also ridiculous as well

All Hail King Russ.
 
Mo Gotti averaging nearly 22 and 9 since going to the Hornets, called it as soon as the trade happened.


Don't know how he and Kemba will coexist but man if it can work. :pimp:


Henderson been balling too, I like the Hornets.
 
Only three players in NBA history, Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Bill Russell, have won at least five MVP awards.

When the 2014-15 season finally comes to a close, LeBron James may very well become the fourth.

James has already taken home four MVP trophies and has finished in the top five on five other occasions. Despite some close finishes, he's never been in a race as tight as this year's version appears to be.

Along with James, three other candidates can make an impressive argument for why they deserve to be the league's most valuable player.

James Harden has led a Dwight Howard-less Houston Rocketsteam to a top-three seed in the Western Conference. Stephen Curry is the best player on the 49-12 Golden State Warriors, owners of the league's top record. Russell Westbrook is collecting almost nightly triple-doubles while carrying theOklahoma City Thunder back into the playoff picture without last year's MVP, Kevin Durant. Anthony Davis also deserves some consideration, but the New Orleans Pelicans' so-so record (34-29) will ultimately prevent him from winning.

All are worthy candidates, but none have been as valuable to their respective teams as James has been to the Cavaliers.

What James Means to the Cavs

OK, how bad would this Cavaliers team be without James?

To put it kindly: pretty stinkin' bad.

Even with current and former All-Stars in Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love, Cleveland's success lives and dies with James.

The Cavs are 2-9 when he misses a game this season, a record that would be even worse if not for Irving's heroic 55-point performance against the Portland Trail Blazers on Jan. 28. That's a win roughly 18 percent of the time, a lower success rate than the NBA's worst team, the New York Knicks (19.7 percent).

When James suits up, the Cavaliers are 38-16, good for a 70.4 winning percentage. Only the Memphis Grizzlies (71.0), Atlanta Hawks (79.0) and Warriors (80.3) have been better this year.

In those 11 games James has missed, Cleveland's offense has sputtered. The Cavs average 91.3 points per game when James sits, a drop of 11.2 points per game off their season average.

It's not just his 26.0 points, but rather James' overall court vision and playmaking ability that stands out. He's averaging 7.3 assists, tied for second-most of his 12-year career. Both totals lead the Cavaliers, as do his 33.3 usage percentage, 38.7 assist percentage, 6.9 box plus/minus and 25.8 player efficiency rating.

Of course, there's all the little things that don't show up in stat sheets.

James is always pointing out what he sees on the court to teammates. He shouts defensive assignments from the bench. He supports, encourages and even criticizes when necessary.

Even back in training camp, James kept teammates after practice to work with them on coach David Blatt's offense. He had already mastered the playbook for his position, along with the other four spots as well.

James is once again the undisputed leader of the Cavaliers, with his every move dictating their success.

James Is Great, but MVP-Worthy?

We know what James does for the Cavs, but he's certainly not the only one leading a successful franchise.

Curry, Harden and Westbrook are all in the MVP conversation, and deservedly so. At various points, all have seemingly taken turns sitting atop the mountain.

Here's how the four stack up in key categories:

MVP Candidate Resumes
Westbrook 27.4 PTS 7.1 REB 8.3 AST 35 WINS
Harden 27.1 PTS 5.8 REB 7.1 AST 43 WINS
Curry 23.6 PTS 4.4 REB 7.8 AST 49 WINS
James 26.0 PTS 5.7 REB 7.3 AST 40 WINS

Basketball-Reference.com

If the race came down to pure power stats, Westbrook would be the runaway winner. Unfortunately, the Thunder are eighth in the West and aren't even guaranteed a playoff spot.

Curry's stats may not measure up to the others, but his Warriors have been the best and most consistent team all season.

Harden and James are somewhere in between, mixing impressive stats with team success. As of March 9, the Rockets are No. 3 in the West while James' Cavaliers hold down the No. 2 spot in the East. Both are locks not only to reach the postseason but likely collect home-court advantage as well.

Points, rebounds and assists are usually the first stats that jump out to fans and voters, and for good reason. They help show who's had the best statistical season, though not necessarily who was the most valuable to his team.

Instead, on/off numbers are far more telling. These assist in measuring a team's success when a player is in the game and its potential demise when he needs a rest. In all, they can be bundled into one total number that calculates the offensive and defensive impact of a player on his franchise.

When it comes to this ultimate net rating, no candidate is more impressive than James.

The Cavaliers are 17.5 points per 100 possessions better with James on the court, the highest total of all four candidates.

Outside Support

Even with five-plus weeks remaining in the regular season, James has his supporters throughout the league.

Before a 110-79 dismantling of the Boston Celtics on March 3, Celtics coach Brad Stevens told Jay King of MassLive.com:

He looks like the MVP to me. I know we've got all this argument going on, but man, he's hard to stop. …

I don't know that there is a viable option in the whole league defending LeBron. … But what makes LeBron special is not just his ability to do what he does 1-on-1 -- because nobody can guard him 1-on-1 -- but to also make plays for his teammates if you do make times. And you're almost forced to bring two at times, especially when he's on the deep block.

Rewind back a week to what was perhaps the Cavaliers' biggest statement game of the season, and one where James may have leap-frogged another candidate.

On Feb. 26, the league-leading Warriors came to Cleveland in a nationally televised contest. James was eager to show what he and his team were capable of, notes Joe Vardon of the Northeast Ohio Media Group:

The Cavaliers handled the Warriors 110-99, and James was the obvious star. He dropped a season-high 42 points, tied a season-high with 11 rebounds, and contributed five assists. Those 42 points came on 15-of-25 shooting.

Curry, meanwhile, finished with 18 points on 5-of-17 shooting. He didn't score in the fourth quarter.

"Well I hope it's not based on this game," Curry said. "If I'm playing one-on-one against him and you look at tonight, then I lost, obviously. It's about a body of work."

In three games against Curry, Harden and Westbrook this season, James is averaging 37.6 points, 4.6 assists and 8.6 rebounds.

Ignore the Past, Focus on the Present

One factor that could plague James, although unfairly, is his past success.

In a way, all four others would be a sexier pick than James. After he won the award four times, it's natural to think some voter fatigue would set in. Much like with Durant the year before andDerrick Rose in 2010-11, it's arguably more exciting to see a first-year winner rather than someone who's done it before.

James certainly shouldn't be penalized for this, however. The most valuable player should be a blind award based off who's made the biggest difference for his team, regardless of past success.

Hopefully, the voters will get it right.
 
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bleacher report on why lebron should win MVP again 
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Only three players in NBA history, Michael Jordan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Bill Russell, have won at least five MVP awards.

When the 2014-15 season finally comes to a close, LeBron James may very well become the fourth.

James has already taken home four MVP trophies and has finished in the top five on five other occasions. Despite some close finishes, he's never been in a race as tight as this year's version appears to be.

Along with James, three other candidates can make an impressive argument for why they deserve to be the league's most valuable player.

James Harden has led a Dwight Howard-less Houston Rocketsteam to a top-three seed in the Western Conference. Stephen Curry is the best player on the 49-12 Golden State Warriors, owners of the league's top record. Russell Westbrook is collecting almost nightly triple-doubles while carrying theOklahoma City Thunder back into the playoff picture without last year's MVP, Kevin Durant. Anthony Davis also deserves some consideration, but the New Orleans Pelicans' so-so record (34-29) will ultimately prevent him from winning.

All are worthy candidates, but none have been as valuable to their respective teams as James has been to the Cavaliers.

What James Means to the Cavs

OK, how bad would this Cavaliers team be without James?

To put it kindly: pretty stinkin' bad.

Even with current and former All-Stars in Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love, Cleveland's success lives and dies with James.

The Cavs are 2-9 when he misses a game this season, a record that would be even worse if not for Irving's heroic 55-point performance against the Portland Trail Blazers on Jan. 28. That's a win roughly 18 percent of the time, a lower success rate than the NBA's worst team, the New York Knicks (19.7 percent).

When James suits up, the Cavaliers are 38-16, good for a 70.4 winning percentage. Only the Memphis Grizzlies (71.0), Atlanta Hawks (79.0) and Warriors (80.3) have been better this year.

In those 11 games James has missed, Cleveland's offense has sputtered. The Cavs average 91.3 points per game when James sits, a drop of 11.2 points per game off their season average.

It's not just his 26.0 points, but rather James' overall court vision and playmaking ability that stands out. He's averaging 7.3 assists, tied for second-most of his 12-year career. Both totals lead the Cavaliers, as do his 33.3 usage percentage, 38.7 assist percentage, 6.9 box plus/minus and 25.8 player efficiency rating.

Of course, there's all the little things that don't show up in stat sheets.

James is always pointing out what he sees on the court to teammates. He shouts defensive assignments from the bench. He supports, encourages and even criticizes when necessary.

Even back in training camp, James kept teammates after practice to work with them on coach David Blatt's offense. He had already mastered the playbook for his position, along with the other four spots as well.

James is once again the undisputed leader of the Cavaliers, with his every move dictating their success.

James Is Great, but MVP-Worthy?

We know what James does for the Cavs, but he's certainly not the only one leading a successful franchise.

Curry, Harden and Westbrook are all in the MVP conversation, and deservedly so. At various points, all have seemingly taken turns sitting atop the mountain.

Here's how the four stack up in key categories:

MVP Candidate Resumes
Westbrook 27.4 PTS 7.1 REB 8.3 AST 35 WINS
Harden 27.1 PTS 5.8 REB 7.1 AST 43 WINS
Curry 23.6 PTS 4.4 REB 7.8 AST 49 WINS
James 26.0 PTS 5.7 REB 7.3 AST 40 WINS


Basketball-Reference.com

If the race came down to pure power stats, Westbrook would be the runaway winner. Unfortunately, the Thunder are eighth in the West and aren't even guaranteed a playoff spot.

Curry's stats may not measure up to the others, but his Warriors have been the best and most consistent team all season.

Harden and James are somewhere in between, mixing impressive stats with team success. As of March 9, the Rockets are No. 3 in the West while James' Cavaliers hold down the No. 2 spot in the East. Both are locks not only to reach the postseason but likely collect home-court advantage as well.

Points, rebounds and assists are usually the first stats that jump out to fans and voters, and for good reason. They help show who's had the best statistical season, though not necessarily who was the most valuable to his team.

Instead, on/off numbers are far more telling. These assist in measuring a team's success when a player is in the game and its potential demise when he needs a rest. In all, they can be bundled into one total number that calculates the offensive and defensive impact of a player on his franchise.

When it comes to this ultimate net rating, no candidate is more impressive than James.

The Cavaliers are 17.5 points per 100 possessions better with James on the court, the highest total of all four candidates.

Outside Support

Even with five-plus weeks remaining in the regular season, James has his supporters throughout the league.

Before a 110-79 dismantling of the Boston Celtics on March 3, Celtics coach Brad Stevens told Jay King of MassLive.com:

He looks like the MVP to me. I know we've got all this argument going on, but man, he's hard to stop. …

I don't know that there is a viable option in the whole league defending LeBron. … But what makes LeBron special is not just his ability to do what he does 1-on-1 -- because nobody can guard him 1-on-1 -- but to also make plays for his teammates if you do make times. And you're almost forced to bring two at times, especially when he's on the deep block.

Rewind back a week to what was perhaps the Cavaliers' biggest statement game of the season, and one where James may have leap-frogged another candidate.

On Feb. 26, the league-leading Warriors came to Cleveland in a nationally televised contest. James was eager to show what he and his team were capable of, notes Joe Vardon of the Northeast Ohio Media Group:

The Cavaliers handled the Warriors 110-99, and James was the obvious star. He dropped a season-high 42 points, tied a season-high with 11 rebounds, and contributed five assists. Those 42 points came on 15-of-25 shooting.

Curry, meanwhile, finished with 18 points on 5-of-17 shooting. He didn't score in the fourth quarter.

"Well I hope it's not based on this game," Curry said. "If I'm playing one-on-one against him and you look at tonight, then I lost, obviously. It's about a body of work."

In three games against Curry, Harden and Westbrook this season, James is averaging 37.6 points, 4.6 assists and 8.6 rebounds.

Ignore the Past, Focus on the Present

One factor that could plague James, although unfairly, is his past success.

In a way, all four others would be a sexier pick than James. After he won the award four times, it's natural to think some voter fatigue would set in. Much like with Durant the year before andDerrick Rose in 2010-11, it's arguably more exciting to see a first-year winner rather than someone who's done it before.

James certainly shouldn't be penalized for this, however. The most valuable player should be a blind award based off who's made the biggest difference for his team, regardless of past success.

Hopefully, the voters will get it right.
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 at lebron getting mvp when his team isnt even first place in the nba JV league 
 
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