The College Basketball Post

[soccerty]

Bo Ryan will never beat teams great teams playing the way he does,

this year may be his best shot because of unusual high level of talent that Wisconsin has but even the I doubt.

He's too conservative to beat big time schools with more talent.

normally i agree with you, but im not sure about that comment

most of the ranked teams they play have more talent, its been that way since hes been here

his regular season record against the top 25 is 50-46 at Wisconsin in 13 seasons

thats pretty good considering the talent he works with in any given year...and he plays a brutal non-conference schedule almost ever year, they actually go out and play people unlike most bigger schools

Duke, Arizona, Michigan State, Florida etc are all teams he's beaten

i never understood why people say hes too conservative of a coach..he can only work with what hes got, if he played an uptempo style theres not a chance in hell they finish in the Top 4 in the Big Ten and play in the NCAA tournament each of his 13 seasons..but they have..its not being conservative so much as playing to his team's strengths and why he stresses fundamentals

now this year he finally has a team with a little more skill and guess what, hes letting them play...they push the ball, take open shots early in the shot clock, score in transition, get to the foul line...and as a result scoring is higher than in any other season under him

the only knock against Bo is his record in the NCAA tournament, and for that i have no argument..but no team has won a chip (except '02 Terps) without a McDonalds All-American since that game started..not too many of those suiting up for Wisconsin...Brian Butch and Sam Okey are the only ones that even come to mind...i guarantee if he had elite level talent, tournament success would be far greater

 

[worldbeefreeg]

I honestly think the Johnnies have an awesome chance to put a hot streak together and win the Big East tourney but on the flipside I wouldn't be suprired if they lose to Seton Hall or some **** first round. They play to their opponents talent level.

Can't wait for that 1-16 performance from D'angelo vs. Villanova prolly

 

[ricardo malta]

 

normally i agree with you, but im not sure about that comment

most of the ranked teams they play have more talent, its been that way since hes been here

his regular season record against the top 25 is 50-46 at Wisconsin in 13 seasons

thats pretty good considering the talent he works with in any given year...and he plays a brutal non-conference schedule almost ever year, they actually go out and play people unlike most bigger schools

Duke, Arizona, Michigan State, Florida etc are all teams he's beaten

i never understood why people say hes too conservative of a coach..he can only work with what hes got, if he played an uptempo style theres not a chance in hell they finish in the Top 4 in the Big Ten and play in the NCAA tournament each of his 13 seasons..but they have..its not being conservative so much as playing to his team's strengths and why he stresses fundamentals

now this year he finally has a team with a little more skill and guess what, hes letting them play...they push the ball, take open shots early in the shot clock, score in transition, get to the foul line...and as a result scoring is higher than in any other season under him


the only knock against Bo is his record in the NCAA tournament, and for that i have no argument..but no team has won a chip (except '02 Terps) without a McDonalds All-American since that game started..not too many of those suiting up for Wisconsin...Brian Butch and Sam Okey are the only ones that even come to mind...i guarantee if he had elite level talent, tournament success would be far greater

Bo just gets way more out of his players than any other coach does. It's not even an argument.

Would love to see what he could do with the talent these other elite programs get.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

 

normally i agree with you, but im not sure about that comment

most of the ranked teams they play have more talent, its been that way since hes been here

his regular season record against the top 25 is 50-46 at Wisconsin in 13 seasons

thats pretty good considering the talent he works with in any given year...and he plays a brutal non-conference schedule almost ever year, they actually go out and play people unlike most bigger schools

Duke, Arizona, Michigan State, Florida etc are all teams he's beaten

i never understood why people say hes too conservative of a coach..he can only work with what hes got, if he played an uptempo style theres not a chance in hell they finish in the Top 4 in the Big Ten and play in the NCAA tournament each of his 13 seasons..but they have..its not being conservative so much as playing to his team's strengths and why he stresses fundamentals

now this year he finally has a team with a little more skill and guess what, hes letting them play...they push the ball, take open shots early in the shot clock, score in transition, get to the foul line...and as a result scoring is higher than in any other season under him


the only knock against Bo is his record in the NCAA tournament, and for that i have no argument..but no team has won a chip (except '02 Terps) without a McDonalds All-American since that game started..not too many of those suiting up for Wisconsin...Brian Butch and Sam Okey are the only ones that even come to mind...i guarantee if he had elite level talent, tournament success would be far greater

all depends on what you value, no doubt Bo's style will allo for more consistent sucess repeated tourney appearances.

but ultimately if you want to beat teams that are better than you, and all the numbers bare this out, you have to play a riskier style of basketball.

shooting threes
pressing, forcing turnovers
offensive rebounding.

while this increase the chance you may loose by a lot its increase your chance of beating teams that have more talent then you.

VCU did this, Butler did this, Belmont, its why you don't want to face Minnesota in the tournament this year etc etc


I understand if college fans value consistent conference success, over a greater chance of upsetting a traditional basketball power. Bo has more talent then he usually has so this is his best shot.

But the reality it will always be tough for a Bo Ryan underdog to beat a squad with more talent, and once they face that team in the sweet 16 or elite 8 the smart money is on wisconsin loosing.

 

[thejrob]

Getting beyond excited for the tournament.

If Arizona gets the #1 in the West region, I'll be able to see their first two games in San Diego & the Sweet 16/Elite 8 in Anaheim. Traveling with the team all the way to Texas to cut down nets

 

[rook]

Woah

 

[dacomeup]

6 year extension for Steve Lavin. Whoa. 

 

[bigmike23]

6 year extension for Steve Lavin. Whoa. 

Lol

 

[finallyfamous]

32-0.



Pullin for them.

 

[isu 42]

AAC: Louisville
B10: Michigan State
SEC: Florida
A10: VCU
MVC: UNI

ACC: Duke
Big East: Creighton
B12: Oklahoma
Pac 12: Zona

 

[finallyfamous]

ESPN2

 

[Chopper]

If Izzo can keep his team playing like they did last night from here on out, watch out. 

Bo Ryan is a great regular season coach. Fantastic. Wake me up when he doesn't underachieve in the tournament. 

 

[philosophiae dr]

 
Bo Ryan is a great regular season coach. Fantastic. Wake me up when he doesn't underachieve in the tournament. 

I don't know if he always underachieves in the tourney, because I don't think his teams have ever really been that great in the first place.

He usually does it with smoke and mirrors.

I'd say more times than not, he completely overachieves in the regular season, and then they are who they are in the tournament format.

 

[jsindaa]

ESPN2

Game was CRAZY live. Easily the best game of the year at the JAR

 

[finallyfamous]

Game was CRAZY live. Easily the best game of the year at the JAR

Hell yeah my dude

 

[isu 42]

 
AAC: Louisville
B10: Michigan State
SEC: Florida
A10: VCU
MVC: UNI

ACC: Duke
Big East: Creighton
B12: Oklahoma
Pac 12: Zona

whoops

 

[tvobach]

KU gonna struggle at WVU today. No Embiid, early east coast start, almost nothing to play for....wouldn't be surprised if they took an L.

 

[finallyfamous]

KU gonna struggle at WVU today. No Embiid, early east coast start, almost nothing to play for....wouldn't be surprised if they took an L.

Honestly man... its March 8th.. and you know how the season gets.

Anything can happen now. Nothing will surprise me.

and that's the beauty of it

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Is it just me or does everybody at Florida seems like they are in like 10 times better shape than the rest of college basketball.

 

[rook]

Anybody see pat young being a Reggie evans type player in the league? Or is he overseas for sure

This fraizer dude jumper is money

 

[ricardo malta]

Anybody see pat young being a Reggie evans type player in the league? Or is he overseas for sure

Rook gonna Rook.

 

[trickster360cj]

Kentucky is getting destroyed

 

[outkast9984]

First time really seeing Florida game and wow...they should be fave to win title

 

[finallyfamous]

First time really seeing Florida game and wow...they should be fave to win title

They are.

 

[jjs]

damn west virginia on a mission.