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Cuse played great that first half, doubt they can sustain it.
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Boeheim saying Jahil's footwork is the best he's ever seen. I swear that's been said about him several times now
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Jahlil is generational talent
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Disagree. He has some post moves, little to no defense. Cousins had as much going on as Okafor. Imagine if he got the touches that Okafor has. Anthony Davis is generational talent.
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Boogie had a higher usage than Jahlil though, Jahlil is more effecient with less talent around him and tougher opponents.
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Agreed 100%. Boogie and Jahlil were/are really really good players. Jahlil is going to be a really good pro. But "generational talent" is a term you can't use lightly.
Wilt, MJ, Charles, Nash, Duncan, Kobe, LBJ, D Rose, Anthony Davis, etc...are "generational talents."
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Nash isn't a generational talent 
if he is then Boogie definitely is. Boogie is a top 3 center in the league right now. He's a phenomenal player.
if he is then Boogie definitely is. Boogie is a top 3 center in the league right now. He's a phenomenal player.
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Wait, Nash isn't a generational talent?
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He's a very good player that needed 10 years to become a superstar, sorry that doesn't equate to generational talent.
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No Nash was crafty as hell and a hard worker
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Yep it's nothing against Nash, dude built himself up from a good player to a superstar and I've got a ton of respect for him for doing so, but a generational talent is a guy like LeBron or Wade or Charles Barkley that comes into the league and dominates almost right away. Nash is the epitome of honing your game and constantly developing, but he's not a generational talent.
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I tend to reserve generational talent for the rarest of prospects. If you label someone a generational talent I'm assuming they will be an All-Star year in and year out starting in their second or third pro season
I hesitate to say Jahil is one of those types of prospects but at the same time his skill set aint nothin to **** with, he's more polished than a lot of pro big men at this point
I hesitate to say Jahil is one of those types of prospects but at the same time his skill set aint nothin to **** with, he's more polished than a lot of pro big men at this point
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I mean Nash maybe the greatest shooter ever, at least top 4 and he's the pg for like 6 of the top 10 best NBA offenses.
*shrugs*
I don't even know what generational talent means.
*shrugs*
I don't even know what generational talent means.
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Yea, if that isn't a generational talent then I don't know what is. He's just a hard worker who turned himself into one of the greatest PGs of our time, and multi lol'd MVPs. Generational talent is so vague.
He's just a hard worker who turned himself into one of the greatest PGs of our time, and multi lol'd MVPs. Generational talent is so vague.
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There isn't really any concrete definitions to any of the labels out there: "Elite", "Superstar", "Franchise" etc. etc.
Generational talent seems like a cut above, to me. Meaning a talent that only comes along a few times in that given generation
Generational talent seems like a cut above, to me. Meaning a talent that only comes along a few times in that given generation
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Had to run out earlier but wanted to elaborate a bit.
Fans of this generation are conditioned to seeing players with athleticism but not much fundamental skill. When we happen upon a player that has a measure of developed skill, then they look like something far and away better than what they are playing against. This disparity creates the illusion of greatness. Like taking a man playing on a DIII team and letting him run in the WNBA. He would look great by comparison, but it doesn't make him great.
The basketball scene shifted in the early 90's to valuing raw athleticism over developed skill in the hopes that skill could be learned as they went.
There was a time that most of what made an NBA roster was basketball players. You could put any player in off the bench and they could hit an open jumper, especially mid-range. Now instead of that being the norm it is unique when a player has that attribute. We are hyper focused on specialists meaning complete players are few and far between.
Fans of this generation are conditioned to seeing players with athleticism but not much fundamental skill. When we happen upon a player that has a measure of developed skill, then they look like something far and away better than what they are playing against. This disparity creates the illusion of greatness. Like taking a man playing on a DIII team and letting him run in the WNBA. He would look great by comparison, but it doesn't make him great.
The basketball scene shifted in the early 90's to valuing raw athleticism over developed skill in the hopes that skill could be learned as they went.
There was a time that most of what made an NBA roster was basketball players. You could put any player in off the bench and they could hit an open jumper, especially mid-range. Now instead of that being the norm it is unique when a player has that attribute. We are hyper focused on specialists meaning complete players are few and far between.
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I see your point
Still think Jahil has the chance to do big things in the pros though. I don't guarantee anything about him but like I said, his skill set is superior to a lot of bigs in the pros right now
Defensively still has a ways to go. Other than that, his offensive IQ and ball skills, footwork all jump off the page
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Curry's final year at Davidson during that tourney run was one of the greatest performances I've ever witnessed.
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Yea I'm not calling Oakfor generation talent. Kid is a product of being crafty with big hands and good feet.
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Cat Barber been playing really well lately 
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The great tournament run was his Sophomore year amazing
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Exactly. Nash brought something to the game that that generation had never seen. Back to back MVPs, best PG, different style of play, great shooter..."generational" talent.I mean Nash maybe the greatest shooter ever, at least top 4 and he's the pg for like 6 of the top 10 best NBA offenses.
*shrugs*
I don't even know what generational talent means.
