The College Basketball Post

[worldbeefreeg]

Not at all, I really do believe y'all are going to win this year, no troll.

If I was trolling I would have put Tyler Thornton as POY

 

[scuse7]

Johnny Dawkins has to be gone if Stanford doesn't make the tournament this season .

They should. Pretty solid team all around.

 

[seymore cake]

Not at all, I really do believe y'all are going to win this year, no troll.

If I was trolling I would have put Tyler Thornton as POY

Get The **** On G

 

[worldbeefreeg]

@ y'all being angry that a squad I'm picking that's ranked no. 4 in the preseason to win it all...at the end of the day, I may hate K but he's prolly the best CBB coach ever. Y'all are stacked and I just trust the balance of vets/young guys you have. Kentucky is prolly the other team that's in your league imo, I just don't trust them after last year enough and am not particularly big on the Harrison's either.

 

[dacomeup]

Seeing a lot of Okafor/Jones to Kansas predictions.

Also, Reid Travis announcing. Is he still yours? Evan Daniels saying that he's down to Stanford and Minny.

 

[worldbeefreeg]

If Okafor/Jones end up in Kansas

 

[seymore cake]

If Okafor/Jones end up in Kansas

I've prepared myself for it.

 

[champcruthik]

Coach K, best CBB HC, ever?

 

[ricardo malta]

Coach K, best CBB HC, ever?

Depends on what your criteria consists of. I think he lacks the ability to develop players to their utmost potential and sometimes stunts their growth. Yet he has the insane ability of getting the absolute most out of his TEAM and fitting average players into a system and watching them flourish.

One thing you can't deny is that he's built Duke basketball into a brand, only seen done by himself, Dean, and Wooden. He's also built himself into a brand as well that will exist long after he's retired, which I don't think too many coaches will be able to do.

 

[アミーゴ]

SMU beat up on Colorado this weekend...



WTF.

 

[champcruthik]

Your first point, Austin Rivers prime example.

Wooden and Dean Smith for me.

Is Coach K the best active HC? Pitino, Jimmy B., Izzo.

Some might add Self, Cal, Donovan.

 

[woody2626]

Non duke sources saying duke is out on Travis. Duke people saying still in it and that it may not be Reid doesn't want to end up at Duke but if he believes he's good enough for Duke(K challenging him)

Nothing has changed about my thinking with the duo

 

[seymore cake]

Your first point, Austin Rivers prime example.

Wooden and Dean Smith for me.

Is Coach K the best active HC? Pitino, Jimmy B., Izzo.

Some might add Self, Cal, Donovan.

Wait there's debate that he's the best ACTIVE HC? Seriously?

News to me.

 

[champcruthik]

WorldBee said it a couple posts above.

Not active, all-time. I just wanted to discuss it.

 

[worldbeefreeg]

Austin Rivers sucks that isn't Coach K's fault...

If anything he should thank K for semi-letting him shine and being a lottery pick cause he has flat-out gotten exposed.

 

[seymore cake]

WorldBee said it a couple posts above.

Not active, all-time. I just wanted to discuss it.

I can see the all-time discussion... But the active aspect I'm a little shocked at.

Don't get me wrong I love Pitino, Izzo, & Self (I Like Cal) but you would feel comfortable saying that they're better than K?

Serious question.

 

[champcruthik]

If that question is for me, no to Self and Cal. Yes to Pitino and Izzo.

 

[seymore cake]

If that question is for me, no to Self and Cal. Yes to Pitino and Izzo.

Ok. Why? On what basis do you say that they are better coaches than K.

 

[champcruthik]

Let's get Calhoun out of the way since he's no longer active.

I said no to Self and Cal.

Boeheim is close in career wins. Consistency and longevity with the same program. I suppose only one NC is the knock.

 

[champcruthik]

Pitino is the only HC to lead 3 different programs to the Final Four if you don't include Cal.

Final Four in four separate decades along with Coach K, Dean Smith, Jimmy B.

 

[champcruthik]

Pitino and Roy have led two different programs to at least 3 Final Four each.

 

[champcruthik]

Izzo: 4x COY, 6x Final Four, 1x NC, coaching tree.

 

[seymore cake]

So your basis for Pitino & Roy (even though he isn't have the coach K is which is sad) is what he's done at the various different places he's been? Izzo his awards, distance in the tourney & coaching tree...

I can see/respect that they were able to build/rebuild at different locations, more so Ricky bc UNC recruits itself.

My counter is exactly what you mentioned about Jimmy, the longevity & consistency along with all the national & conference chips both regular and tourney. Not to mention like Clark said K created Rome, he BUILT Duke into the national name/powerhouse/brand that it is. No other active coach besides Jimmy B can say that and even then as you you said, his accomplishments pale in comparison.

I won't mention personal accolades but I will say K's coaching tree is pretty damn impressive if you look at it. Pitino's coaching tree is STUPID honestly.

 

[champcruthik]

FTR, I only mentioned Roy to highlight two HC's have accomplished that feat. Not to say he belongs with Pitino, Jimmy B., Coach K, Izzo. Because I don't have Roy over any of those four.

 

[seymore cake]

Rick Pitino, Louisville; former head coach Boston University, Providence, Kentucky Coaching Tree:

Winston Bennett (asst., Boston Celtics, 1997-98, asst., Kentucky 1995-97, played at Kentucky) Head coach Mid-Continent University; former head coach, Kentucky State
Delray Brooks (asst., Kentucky 1992-97, played at Providcence) Former head coach, UT-Pan American
Bill Burke (asst., Louisville, 2002-06, asst., Boston University, 197 Former head coach Loyola
Gordon Chiesa (asst. Providence 1985-87) Former head coach, Providence
Mick Cronin (asst., Louisville 2001-03) Head coach, Cincinnati; former head coach, Murray State
Scott Davenport (asst., Louisville 1996-05) Head coach, Bellarmine
Billy Donovan (asst., Kentucky, 1989-94; played at Providence) Head coach, Florida; former head coach Marshall
Anthony Grant (asst., Florida 1996-06, asst., Marshall 1994-96) Head coach, Alabama; former head coach, VCU
Donnie Jones (asst., Florida 1997-07, asst., Marshall 1994-96) Head coach, Marshall
John Pelphrey (asst., Florida, 1997-02, asst., Marshall 1005-96, played at Kentucky) Head coach, Arkansas; former head coach South Alabama
Shaka Smart (asst., Florida 2007-0 Head coach, VCU
Travis Ford (played at Kentucky) Head coach, Oklahoma State; former head coach UMas, Eastern Kentucky, Campbellsville
Stu Jackson (asst., New York Knicks 1987-89, asst., Providence, 1985-87) Former head coach Wisconsin, New York Knicks
Sean Kearney (asst., Providence 1986-87) Head coach, Holy Cross
John Kuester (asst., Boston University 1981-83) Former head coach George Washington, Boston University
Bernadette Mattox (asst., Kentucky 1990-94) Former head coach, Kentucky women's basketball team
Marvin Menzies (asst., Louisville 2005-07) Head coach, New Mexico State
Jim O'Brien (asst., Boston Celtics 1997-01, asst., Kentucky 1994-97) Head coach, Indiana Pacers; former head coach Philadelphia 76ers, Boston Celtics, Dayton, played at Kentucky) Head coach, Arkansas; former head coach South Alabama
Herb Sendek (asst., Kentucky 1989-93, asst., Providence 1985-89) Head coach, Arizona State; former head coach NC State, Miami (Ohio)
Jim Christian (asst, Miami, 1994-96) Head coach, Texas Christian; former head coach, Kent State
Geno Ford (asst., Kent State 2002-05) Head coach, Kent State
Charlie Coles (asst., Miami 1994-96) Head coach, Miami Ohio, former head coach Central Michigan
John Groce (asst., NC State 1996-9 Head coach, Ohio University
Larry Hunter (asst., NC State, 2001-05) Head coach, Western Carolina; former head coach Ohio University, Wittenberg University
Geno Ford (asst., Ohio University, 1998-01)
Ron Hunter (asst., Miami 1993-94) Head coach IUPUI
Thad Matta (asst., Miami 1993-94,) Head coach, Ohio State; former head coach Xavier, Butler
Todd Lickliter (asst., Butler 2000-01) Head coach, Iowa; former head coach, Butler
Brad Stevens (asst., Butler 2001-07) Head coach, Butler
John Groce (asst., Ohio State, 2004-08, Butler, 2000-01) Head coach Ohio University
Sean Miller (asst., Butler 2001-04) Head coach, Arizona; former head coach Xavier
Sean Miller (asst., NC State 1996-00, asst., Miami 1993-95) Head coach, Arizona; former head coach Xavier
Chris Mack (asst., Xavier 2004-09) Head coach, Xavier
Mark Phelps (asst., Arizona State, 2006-08, asst., NC State 2000-06) Head coach, Drake
Tubby Smith (asst., Kentucky, 1989-91) Head coach, Minnesota; former head coach Kentucky, Georgia, Tulsa
Ron Jirsa (asst., Georgia 1995-97, asst., Tulsa, 1991-94) Former head coach, Georgia and Marshall
Reggie Theus (asst., Louisville 2003-05) Former head coach, Sacramento Kings, New Mexico State.
Jeff Van Gundy (asst., Providence 1987) Former head coach, New York Knicks
Kevin Willard (asst., Louisville 2001-07) Head coach, Iona
Ralph Wilard (asst., Louisville, 2009-present, asst., Kentucky 1989-90, asst., New York Knicks, 1987-90) Former head coach Holy Cross, Pittsburgh, Western Kentucky
Tom Crean (asst., Western Kentucky 1990-94) Head coach, Indiana; former head coach, Marquette
Tim Buckley (asst., Marquette, 1999-00, 2006-07). Asst. coach at Indiana; former head coach, Ball State (2000-06)
Darrin Horn (asst., Marquette, 1999-03) Head coach, South Carolina; former head coach, Western Kentucky
Tod Kowalczyk (asst., Marquette, 2001-02) Head coach, Wisconsin-Green Bay
Buzz Williams (asst., Marquette, 2007-0. Head coach, Marquette
Darrin Horn (asst., Western Kentucky, 1995-97) Head coach, South Carolina; former head coach, Western Kentucky
Sean Woods (played at Kentucky) Head coach, Mississippi Valley State