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Fred, we talked about this.
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We did but they are the best team in the BIG EAST STILL
With G'Town in the mix
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We did but they are the best team in the BIG EAST STILL
With G'Town in the mix
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Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
Man... I just saw the Baylor/OU highlights... It has been a ROUGH couple of games for Aaron Bruce. Dude went Chris Webber against the Horns, then fouled the 3pt shooter tonight. Cost the Bears the game BOTH times.What happened to this dude? He's nowhere near the guy that averaged damn near 20 points as a freshman way back when... His numbers have been stuck in reverse ever since.
I thought that might be him but i shrugged it off becuase it was too long ago. Wow he is bad now. I remember how good he was when he was a freshman.
What happened?
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There is WAY too much talk and debate about freaking Roy Hibbert in here... every page there's a new discussion about him
dude is not worthy of allthis talk... let's give it a rest for awhile please.
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^ word.
allen steady tryin' to keep his name in something ...
allen steady tryin' to keep his name in something ...
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Yall have selective memory then because I skimmed back aways and me and Malta's conversation is all I can find and I went back to pg 115
Now, the Luke Harangody post...that might be what you're thinkin of
I'll never be the first to bring up Gtown in here, but it's an impulse if somethings said about the Big East or in that case Thabeet right now.
Same thing I did with Jeff last year, and we see how he turned out
Onto this..
Now, the Luke Harangody post...that might be what you're thinkin of
I'll never be the first to bring up Gtown in here, but it's an impulse if somethings said about the Big East or in that case Thabeet right now.
Same thing I did with Jeff last year, and we see how he turned out
Onto this..
| Georgetown (11-3) | SYR (L) | PC (W) | Cinc | St.J | at Marq | Lvl |
| Louisville (11-3) | PC (W) | SYR (W) | at Pitt | ND | Nova | at GU |
| Connecticut (10-3) | DEP (W) | at Nova | at Rutg | WV | at PC | Cinc |
| Notre Dame (9-3) | Pitt | Syr | at Lvl | at DeP | St. J | at USF |
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Tonight
UNC @ NC State - ESPN
Marquette @ SJU - ESPN2
K Stae @ Nebraska - ESPN2
UNC @ NC State - ESPN
Marquette @ SJU - ESPN2
K Stae @ Nebraska - ESPN2
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| Tar Heels' Williams miffed by Krzyzewski's comments about injury reports |
February 19, 2008
CHAPEL HILL, N.C. (AP) -- North Carolina coach Roy Williams apparently doesn't think too highly of Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski's views on injuryreports.
In a small tiff that has added the latest spice to college basketball's most intense rivalry, Williams took exception to a comment made by Krzyzewski onSunday that the Blue Devils don't discuss injuries "unlike other schools."
While Krzyzewski never mentioned the third-ranked Tar Heels specifically, Williams felt the statement was a subtle jab at his team, which has had amuch-publicized run of injuries and ailments in the past two weeks.
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On Tuesday, Williams found himself discussing the comments again instead of focusing on the Tar Heels' game at North Carolina State on Wednesday.
"It's not like I'm getting a dadgum plane and flying it around to say, 'Roy fell against a wall and banged his nose' or anything,"Williams said in a news conference. "We have to do those things (talk about injuries) and everybody's hurt. But there's different stages of beinghurt.
"If you're hurt and missing games, that's not exactly like having a hangnail. And so we do have some people that are getting hurt and missinggames. I don't think that somebody should say we're putting it in front of the public."
When a reporter attempted to ask a follow-up question, Williams said he didn't want to discuss the comments further and have "battles through themedia." But when the news conference ended, Williams came back to the topic once more.
"I said before we played Duke it's impossible to have any more respect than I do for Mike," Williams said, "but I felt like that commentwas aimed towards us."
Duke team spokesman Jon Jackson declined to comment Tuesday, one day before the fifth-ranked Blue Devils travel to Miami.
Krzyzewski's comment came in a radio interview after Duke's loss at Wake Forest. While noting that freshman Nolan Smith had been playing through aknee injury for a few weeks, Krzyzewski added, "unlike other schools we don't release our injuries," according to the Web site for radio stationWRBZ-AM in Raleigh.
The next day, Williams said on his weekly radio show: "Regardless of what somebody else says about they have injuries too, which is a bunch of bunk, soI don't give a crap what somebody else says, but coach their own damn team, I'll coach my team -- in case anybody has heard some statements aboutthat."
The comments between the Hall of Fame coaches adds to a brief history that includes a heated exchange during a 2000 NCAA tournament game between Duke andWilliams' Kansas squad in which the coaches had to be separated by officials. Last year, things got a little chilly between them after a flagrant foul byDuke's Gerald Henderson broke the nose of North Carolina All-American Tyler Hansbrough late in a game.
In the days leading up to the latest matchup earlier this month, the coaches described a relationship that was respectful and cordial but not especiallyclose.
The injuries have piled up quickly for the Tar Heels (24-2, 9-2 Atlantic Coast Conference). Point guard Ty Lawson is expected to miss his fifth straightgame Wednesday due to a sprained left ankle, while Deon Thompson played just 9 minutes in Saturday's win against Virginia Tech due to a hyperextended leftknee and could be limited again. Backup point guard Quentin Thomas (flu-like symptoms), forward Danny Green (flu) and swingman Marcus Ginyard (sprained rightankle, injured left big toe) are also playing through ailments.
The Tar Heels also lost reserve guard Bobby Frasor to a season-ending knee injury in December.
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Blue bubble
What does Kentucky have to do to make it to the NCAA Tournament?
- Wayne from Lebanon, Ky.
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One of three things must happen (and each is asking a lot): A. Win each of its remaining regular-season games except the road trip to Tennessee on March 2; orB. Win most of its remaining games and beat Tennessee in Knoxville; or C. Win the SEC Tournament.
Every team with at least a 10-6 record in SEC play has made the NCAA Tournament, and Kentucky appears to be on its way with a 8-3 mark in league play. Butthat's not going to be enough this season.
The Wildcats, who are 13-10 overall, rank 72nd in the all-important RPI because of a terrible non-conference resume. They need to be around 50th in the RPI toget the attention of the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee. Pulling off an upset at Tennessee (which is first in the RPI) would help. They also play Arkansas(30th), Mississippi (45th) and Florida (57th) at home and South Carolina (113th) on the road.
Worried Wildcats
Arizona has the longest active consecutive NCAA Tournament streak in the nation. How much is this streak in jeopardy?
- Marc from Tucson, Ariz.
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Barring some kind of disastrous run down the stretch, I think Arizona will be fine.
Normally, I wouldn't feel so confident about a team with a 6-6 record in league play, but the Wildcats are 17th in the RPI. Arizona also boasts thenation's toughest-rated schedule and plays in what many view as the nation's best conference.
Florida State got into the 1998 NCAA Tournament despite a 6-10 record in the ACC when that conference was considered the nation's best (the Seminoles evenlost in the first round of the league tournament).
That doesn't necessarily mean Arizona can lose its next four games and still get an NCAA Tournament bid, but the Wildcats can afford a couple of morelosses, thanks to their great non-conference resume.
Wondering about the Rebels
What has happened to my Ole Miss Rebels? I know the out-of-conference schedule was soft, but has any team started so well before collapsing like AndyKennedy's boys? Does this skid mean an at-large bid is out of the question?
- Geoff from Roswell, Ga.
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Clemson's 17-0 start last season comes to mind, although, the Tigers did rebound somewhat by reaching the 2007 NIT championship game.
Ole Miss, which started 13-0 and rose to as high as No. 16 in the AP poll, now is 17-7 overall and 3-7 in SEC play. The Rebels' NCAA Tournament dreamsaren't dead yet, thanks to a solid RPI (they are currently 45th) and a non-conference resume that, coincidentally, features a neutral-site win overClemson.
The Rebels need to win at least four of their six remaining regular-season games, then will probably have to win twice more in the SEC Tournament. Remember,Arkansas was 7-9 in league play last season and snuck into the field of 65 after reaching the SEC title game.
But I would be surprised if Ole Miss duplicated that feat. The Rebels have lost the swagger that made them such a dangerous team in the first two months of theseason. An even bigger concern is their defensive woes. Auburn shot 63 percent from the field and scored a season-high 90 points in a win over the Rebels onSaturday, after which Ole Miss senior forward Kenny Williams questioned the effort of his teammates.
Pac-10 pro prospects
If you were the New York Knicks' general manager and Stanford's Brook Lopez and USC's O.J. Mayo are both there when you draft, which one do youtake and why?
- Alan Phillips from Boca Raton, Fla.
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After firing Isiah Thomas - which has to be the first move - I would send a little piece of paper to David Stern with Lopez's name on it.
Not many 7-footers have come along with his combination of skills and upside. Lopez has a nice shooting touch and a solid mid-range jumper, which should allowhim to play power forward at the next level. Lopez also has improved dramatically from last season, which makes you wonder just how good he eventually couldbe.
Mayo doesn't appear to have improved much since his junior year of high school, leaving you to wonder if he's maximized his potential. A couple ofyears ago, I thought he would make a great NBA point guard, but he seems far too concerned with scoring.
Move over NIT?
Do you think the new postseason tournament - forgot the name - will surpass the NIT in prestige?
- Bill from Charlotte
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I doubt it, since most, if not all, teams that don't make the NCAA Tournament will accept invitations to the NIT over those from the College BasketballInvitational, which begins its inaugural 16-team tournament in March. That means the teams who play in the CBI weren't even good enough to get into the32-team NIT.
But I do think the CBI's unique best-of-three championship series will land some national attention for the tournament. The higher-seeded team gets to hostthe first game, and the third if necessary, creating more of an NBA-style twist to the final.
What does Kentucky have to do to make it to the NCAA Tournament?
- Wayne from Lebanon, Ky.
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One of three things must happen (and each is asking a lot): A. Win each of its remaining regular-season games except the road trip to Tennessee on March 2; orB. Win most of its remaining games and beat Tennessee in Knoxville; or C. Win the SEC Tournament.
Every team with at least a 10-6 record in SEC play has made the NCAA Tournament, and Kentucky appears to be on its way with a 8-3 mark in league play. Butthat's not going to be enough this season.
The Wildcats, who are 13-10 overall, rank 72nd in the all-important RPI because of a terrible non-conference resume. They need to be around 50th in the RPI toget the attention of the NCAA Tournament Selection Committee. Pulling off an upset at Tennessee (which is first in the RPI) would help. They also play Arkansas(30th), Mississippi (45th) and Florida (57th) at home and South Carolina (113th) on the road.
Worried Wildcats
Arizona has the longest active consecutive NCAA Tournament streak in the nation. How much is this streak in jeopardy?
- Marc from Tucson, Ariz.
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Barring some kind of disastrous run down the stretch, I think Arizona will be fine.
Normally, I wouldn't feel so confident about a team with a 6-6 record in league play, but the Wildcats are 17th in the RPI. Arizona also boasts thenation's toughest-rated schedule and plays in what many view as the nation's best conference.
Florida State got into the 1998 NCAA Tournament despite a 6-10 record in the ACC when that conference was considered the nation's best (the Seminoles evenlost in the first round of the league tournament).
That doesn't necessarily mean Arizona can lose its next four games and still get an NCAA Tournament bid, but the Wildcats can afford a couple of morelosses, thanks to their great non-conference resume.
Wondering about the Rebels
What has happened to my Ole Miss Rebels? I know the out-of-conference schedule was soft, but has any team started so well before collapsing like AndyKennedy's boys? Does this skid mean an at-large bid is out of the question?
- Geoff from Roswell, Ga.
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Clemson's 17-0 start last season comes to mind, although, the Tigers did rebound somewhat by reaching the 2007 NIT championship game.
Ole Miss, which started 13-0 and rose to as high as No. 16 in the AP poll, now is 17-7 overall and 3-7 in SEC play. The Rebels' NCAA Tournament dreamsaren't dead yet, thanks to a solid RPI (they are currently 45th) and a non-conference resume that, coincidentally, features a neutral-site win overClemson.
The Rebels need to win at least four of their six remaining regular-season games, then will probably have to win twice more in the SEC Tournament. Remember,Arkansas was 7-9 in league play last season and snuck into the field of 65 after reaching the SEC title game.
But I would be surprised if Ole Miss duplicated that feat. The Rebels have lost the swagger that made them such a dangerous team in the first two months of theseason. An even bigger concern is their defensive woes. Auburn shot 63 percent from the field and scored a season-high 90 points in a win over the Rebels onSaturday, after which Ole Miss senior forward Kenny Williams questioned the effort of his teammates.
Pac-10 pro prospects
If you were the New York Knicks' general manager and Stanford's Brook Lopez and USC's O.J. Mayo are both there when you draft, which one do youtake and why?
- Alan Phillips from Boca Raton, Fla.
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After firing Isiah Thomas - which has to be the first move - I would send a little piece of paper to David Stern with Lopez's name on it.
Not many 7-footers have come along with his combination of skills and upside. Lopez has a nice shooting touch and a solid mid-range jumper, which should allowhim to play power forward at the next level. Lopez also has improved dramatically from last season, which makes you wonder just how good he eventually couldbe.
Mayo doesn't appear to have improved much since his junior year of high school, leaving you to wonder if he's maximized his potential. A couple ofyears ago, I thought he would make a great NBA point guard, but he seems far too concerned with scoring.
Move over NIT?
Do you think the new postseason tournament - forgot the name - will surpass the NIT in prestige?
- Bill from Charlotte
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I doubt it, since most, if not all, teams that don't make the NCAA Tournament will accept invitations to the NIT over those from the College BasketballInvitational, which begins its inaugural 16-team tournament in March. That means the teams who play in the CBI weren't even good enough to get into the32-team NIT.
But I do think the CBI's unique best-of-three championship series will land some national attention for the tournament. The higher-seeded team gets to hostthe first game, and the third if necessary, creating more of an NBA-style twist to the final.
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i can't believe that video.....
UNC vs. State on now, Q picked up his first foul and we do not need him to get in foul trouble.
UNC vs. State on now, Q picked up his first foul and we do not need him to get in foul trouble.
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This ESPN list of 25 players is a complete joke
Jordan shouldn't be anywhere in the top 20, 25 is pushing it
Jordan shouldn't be anywhere in the top 20, 25 is pushing it
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You act like most of these aren't legitimate problems... Dorsey getting in a fight at the bar isn't any different than guys like McFadden or Ken Hamlin, who also got some negative press...
Whether or not the girl lied to Dozier isn't the issue. A man has no business smacking around a girl. Period. If you're actually trying to defend that, well...
The whole getting into it with fans thing was just stupid. Go to the locker room and move on. Just because fans are yelling at you doesn't mean you gotta run over and slap dude upside his head...
If you're saying what I think you are, you're acting like people are trying to bring Memphis down and find every reason to dog them... But it's just not the case. Their own stupid mistakes get their names brought up in a negative light. People aren't fishing for excuses here.
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Just parked my *## on the couch fresh from work, just turned on the tube to see UNC handing NC State a healthy dose of *## whooping, I love it.
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^^hmm, I didnt know A S S was edited on this piece. Learn something new every day...
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Couple of articles previewing the big game on saturday:
In my writings about who could win the national title this season, I have consciously avoided discussing Tennessee. This isn't really a case of not having something nice to say about them. I love what Bruce Pearl has done in Knoxville. Tennessee doesn't exactly have a foundation of tradition in men's hoops, yet soon after his arrival, Pearl raised the Vols to a level where they no longer have to wonder whether they can get into the NCAA Tournament, but rather how high their seed will be. This season, UT is clearly the class of the SEC; the distance between them and whoever is the second-best team in the league is enormous.
February 20, 2008
[font=times new roman, times, serif]Bad News for Tennessee[/font]
Turnovers are Voluntary
by Ken Pomeroy
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Obviously, I can't ignore Tennessee any longer. This is a huge week for Bruce Pearl's team. Duke's loss to Wake Forest has allowed Tennessee to assume the #2 spot in the major opinion polls, and wins over Auburn tonight and at Memphis on Saturday would move them into the #1 spot, probably unanimously. Even if that happens, the Volunteers have a glaring problem that would make them easily the most vulnerable one-seed, should they get one.
There's a glitch in Tennessee's famed pressure defense that will cause them problems against strong competition--the kind of competition that is absent in the SEC this season. The Vols' defense is heavily dependent on forcing turnovers. To put it more accurately, they rely on turnovers happening. That's a key distinction, because while every turnover has its own characteristics, ball security is more under the control of the offense than the defense.
To illustrate this, we can isolate the effect a defense has on its opponents' tendency to commit turnovers as well as the effect a team's offense has on its opponents ability to force turnovers. I'll use the first game of the season to demonstrate how this works. Maine has committed turnovers on 20.4% of its possessions this season. Against Richmond, they lost the ball on 28.0% of their possessions. Thus, Richmond's influence on Maine's turnover rate was +7.6, because Maine committed turnovers on 7.6% more of its possessions than normal. Similarly, Richmond's defense normally forces turnovers on 25.4% of its possessions, so Maine's affect on Richmond's ability to force turnovers is -2.6 for the game.
If you're still with me, this method applied to one game doesn't tell us much. However, if we do this for every D-I game and average the results for each team and we end up with a good idea of the offense's tendency to commit turnovers compared to the defense's ability to force them. Having done that for all games through Monday, here are the teams that are the most reluctant to commit turnovers:
Texas' figure of -9.8 means that on average, their turnover percentage is 9.8% less than what the opponents' average turnover percentage would suggest. Now here are the teams that have shown the greatest ability to force turnovers:Code:1 Texas -9.82 New Orleans -9.63 West Virginia -9.14 George Mason -7.75 Northwestern -7.0
No surprise that Tennessee is near the top. If we considered the strength of their opponents, I'm sure they would rate as the premier team in the nation at forcing turnovers. There's another interesting point in these two lists, though. The best teams in terms of taking care of the ball are much better than the best defenses in terms of forcing turnovers. I'm only showing the top five, but this is true throughout the rankings. The 50th-best team in forcing turnovers is not as effective as the 50th-best team in committing them, for example. This is a problem for Tennessee because it relies on opponents not having the ability to control the basketball. The correlation between its defensive turnover percentage and defensive efficiency is -0.72, stronger than any other team in the top 20 of the Pomeroy Ratings except Clemson. This means that the Volunteers depend on forcing turnovers for their defense to be good. As they play better competition, their ability to do that diminishes.Code:1 Texas San Antonio +6.52 Tennessee +5.83 UC Santa Barbara +5.24 Nicholls St. +5.05 Army +5.0
Turnovers have occurred on 26.4% of Tennessee's defensive possessions this season, which is the sixth-highest rate in the country. In SEC play, turnovers have occurred on 23.9% of their possessions, a rate which leads second-best South Carolina by more than 2%. What happens if the Volunteers' turnover rate drops? We can get a sense for how Tennessee will fare in that case based on its games so far in which few turnovers have occurred.
Here are the five games in which UT opponents have managed to cough up the ball fewer than one in five possessions:
On average, Tennessee has surrendered 95.6 points per 100 possessions this season; in their five low-turnover games they've allowed an average of 115.3. Aside from Texas, this group doesn't contain a bunch of offensive powerhouses. This isn't a trend that started this season, either. Last season, Tennessee was involved in 10 games in which its opponent kept its TO% below 20, including all three of its NCAA Tournament games. Opponents averaged 111.1 points per 100 possessions in those games compared to 98.6 in all other games last season. In those 15 low-turnover games combined, only once did an opponent not score a point per possession, and that was Memphis last December. In that game, Memphis went a mind-boggling 17 of 49 on two-pointers, which is a deviation from what Tennessee opponents normally shoot. That's because when Tennessee isn't getting turnovers, they're yielding too many run-outs. Opponents are shooting 51.6% inside the arc this season, which ranks 280th in the nation. That figure has risen a tick to 52.0% in SEC play.Code:Opponent TO% Def. Eff. 1/9 Ole Miss 14.4 119.711/24 Texas 17.7 132.412/15 W. Kentucky 18.4 107.6 1/22 Kentucky 19.3 115.9 2/16 Georgia 19.9 100.8
Tennessee's press is able to consistently overwhelm its conference mates who in general are more prone to turnovers than the teams they will be playing in the NCAA Tournament. Thus Tennessee's defense is able to enjoy enough empty possessions to make up for the extremely high efficiency its opponents have when they avoid losing the ball. However, that won't occur consistently when Tennessee faces better opponents.
This isn't to say that Tennessee can't beat Memphis, or some other elite team, without having it cough up the ball a bunch. After all, the Volunteers beat its in-state rivals easily last season under those circumstances. Keep in mind, though, that was only time in the last two seasons that Tennessee has had a good defensive game without forcing many turnovers. If Tennessee can play effective defense without forcing turnovers only about once every two years, their existence in March is going to be a lot shorter than their seeding would suggest.
Ken Pomeroy is an author of Basketball Prospectus. You can contact Ken by clicking here or click here to see Ken's other articles.
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Tennessee's killing Auburn right now...up 26 at the half.
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What the hell was that shot from QThomas? lol. It was ugly, but it went in and thats all I care about.
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Anyone's thoughts on JaVale Mcgee?
I've only seen him once
I've only seen him once
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^ I know he is huge. I think he is at least 7 feet tall. And he is avg like 10 pts a game. I know he played against my cousin in Saginaw Michigan. lol.
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WVU getting killed by Nova
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Do you know the difference between "lied to" and "lied on"? He's saying his ex lied to police about him hitting her. Where are you getting this stuff about her lying to Dozier and that being the reason he hit her? Reading comprehension is lacking big time on NT.
No matter what happened, what the hell is he doing hitting a girl? That's a straight %%!%# move.
And correct if I'm wrong...but wouldn't shebe "lying about" him, and not "lying on" him?
