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Originally Posted by GrimlocK
Wow I am so proud of alot of you, there sheer consensus on advice given warms my heart...
But seriously I've never seen a "call to arms" like this post. Obviously from reading all the comments it's not just OP looking for advice...while i'm not gonna restate anything that's already been said I want to point out a couple things. OP's girl is 17...some of us are considerably older than him and his girl...therefore most of the advice given such as "talk to other girls, make the first move/show intent, don't simp...YNS" are good for his age as well as in general for all of a man's life. Keepdasneaks posted some good info but people doubt Kix's advice. Kix's advice is more geared towards the older generation while I don't completely believe there's no such thing as the friendzone I gotta cosign on his points of reversing the situation on a girl and that there is a way to get out of the friendzone...
For example I have a friend named Harris who was a senior when I was a junior in h.s. he liked this really cute spanish girl named maggie throughout all of h.s....Harris was indian, had a big nose, hairy and was not confident in his approach to maggie and was simping hard...but Harris was a really funny dude. After h.s. harris went to college for a bit while maggie went somewhere else but the important thing is that after h.s. Harris knew he was being a simp and he cut out all simpish tendencies because it dawned on him that he was in the friendzone...harris significantly reduced the amount of time he worried about maggie/talked to maggie/gave a %$!! about maggie....College wasn't working out for Harris so he became a cop....He and maggie reconnected and now their going on 2 years together.
Point of this story is that the friendzone can be a temporary thing...you just have to come to terms with the situation improve your outlook on everything in your life, and then keep the cards in your hand that worked to your advantage (being funny) and replace the rest with better cards (became a cop, doesn't simp anymore, more confidence)
There is no cookie-cutter approach for getting girls, there are only generalizations that work on different age groups, mentality, and even cultures and all it boils down to is trial and error until you get it right.
If it came easy from the start what would you ever learn from it?
No offense but I think that’s a very rare instance in which you can get out of the friendzone. For most people once you move on…you move on. That was a great story, and I wish them all the best but I don’t want anyone to get motivated to stick in the zone and just try to get with others. The mentality should be forget about her and just move on. The chips may fall later similar to the story above, but that is likely not going to happen…what will likely happen is that you will find someone even BETTER (better looking and better personality) than the one you were simpin’ on before. And then eventually you will realize what a simp you were all that time (at least you gained wisdom).
Originally Posted by kix4kix
You'll soon realize that NT is the last place you should look for advice. I'll let my hypocrasy begin and give you advice on here anyway.
1st thing you gotta realize is that there is NO such thing as the friendzone.
Some girls prefer to be friends with a guy before they **** em. Is that a bad thing? I guess if that is all you want- sure. I also prefer this method, sorry, but I don't want to just smash and dash- been there done that.
Also, why would I want a girl to smash me off my looks, and swag alone? Most women can't even begin to fathom how attractive and swagged up I be anyway.
So a girl doesn't want to smash your brains in @ first site? So what. The real question you must ask yourself young squire is if she is worth the effort. NT stay believing in this friendzone schtick, you gotta reverse it and put her in the friendzone. If you don't feel like putting in the work ( I rarely do) then diddy bop onto the next unsuspecting cum bucket you pass by off of Martin Luther King Drive (I'm fairly sure every major city has one of those)
There is no friendzone for attractive people only a timespan where you must be her "friend". If you are ugly please disregard all I typed above.
I mean in all honesty if a girl likes you you'll know.
Edit: " Hate to sound sleazy, but tease me, I don't want it if it's that easy" - 2pac
Not trying to hate... but do not listen to a word of this post. And I don't think you understood the Pac line. What he meant to say is "Don't give it up after one night... let's establish a relationship for a month or few and then let's get it on..." Tupac did not mean to say "Let's have a 2 year friendship and then maybe I can hit?!"
I've read this before, and I'm glad this NTer posted this. Just read this, and if it doesn't motivate you to move on...there is something wrong with you. A female wrote this for gosh sakes.Originally Posted by thegreatstallion
a good article on the subject....lol
http://www.theonion.com/a...-ruin-our-friends,11473/
But If We Started Dating It Would Ruin Our Friendship Where I Ask You To Do Things And You Do Them
By Kimberly Pruitt
I really like you. I do. You're so nice, and sweet, and you listen to all my problems and respond with the appropriate compliments. But, well, I don't really see a relationship in our future. It would be terrible if we let sex destroy this great friendship we have where I get everything I want and you get nothing you want. Don't you think?
I knew you would understand. You always do.
We're so perfect as friends, you know? I can tell you anything, and you know you can always come to me anytime you need to hear me @$%!! about work or how ugly I feel. You wouldn't want to ruin a friendship like that just so you could be my boyfriend, and have me look at you with desire and longing in my eyes, if only once—would you? Of course not. Well, if we started dating, it would only complicate this wonderful setup I've got going here.
It's just…you're like my best friend, and I would hate for something you desperately want to change that. I mean, sure, we could go on some dates, maybe mess around a little and finally validate the six years you've spent languishing in this platonic nightmare, but then what? How could we ever go back to the way we were, where I take advantage of your clear attraction to me so I can have someone at my beck and call? That part of our friendship means so much to me.
No. We are just destined to be really, really good friends who only hang out when I don't have a boyfriend, but still need male attention to boost my fragile and all-consuming ego.
Anything can happen once you bring romance in. Think about how awful my last relationship was at the end, remember? The guy I'd call you crying about at 3 a.m. because he wouldn't answer my texts? The guy I met at the birthday party you threw me? I had insanely passionate sex with him for four months and now we don't even talk anymore. God, I would die if something like that happened to us.
Plus, ick, can you even imagine getting naked in front of each other? I've known you so long, you're more like a brother that I've drunkenly made out with twice and never mentioned again. It'd be way too weird. And if we did, then whenever you'd come shopping with me, or go to one of my performances or charity events, or take me for ice cream when I've had a bad day at work, you'd be looking at me like, "I've seen her breasts." God, I can't think of anything more awkward that that.
Oh, before I forget, my mom says hi.
Anyway, you would totally hate me as your girlfriend. I'd be all needy and dramatic and slowly growing to love you. If I was your girlfriend, I would never be able to tell you all about the other $+!%%@# guys I date and pretend I don't see how much it crushes you. Let's never lose that. That's what makes us us.
Don't worry. You're so funny and smart and amazing, any girl but me would be lucky to date you. You'll find someone, I know it. And when you do, I'll be right by your side to suddenly become all flirty and affectionate with you in front of her, until she grows jealous and won't believe it when you say we're just friends. But when she dumps you, that's just what we'll be.
Best friends. Friends forever.