The Major League Baseball Offseason Post
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by wildkycat,
- Start date
- 25,250
- 13,313
- Joined
- May 30, 2006
The Rangers spend as much or more money bringing young talent into their farm system as anybody in baseball, especially with pitchers lately... And they'vehad some success pulling lesser-known guys out of Asia the last couple of years...
- 6,600
- 47
- Joined
- Oct 1, 2006
The Mariners, Cubs and Dodgers are going after him, do you honestly think a team in Texas has a shot against those three?Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
Why, exactly?
The Rangers spend as much or more money bringing young talent into their farm system as anybody in baseball, especially with pitchers lately... And they've had some success pulling lesser-known guys out of Asia the last couple of years...
- 2,755
- 10
- Joined
- Mar 18, 2009
Giants ownership has stated that they'll raise the budget this next season, but I see them going for players like, Bengie Molina, Eliezer Alfonso, CraigCounsell ,Joe Crede, Randy Winn and a bunch of other scum bags.
They'll probably claim to be players in Matt Holiday and Jason Bay, but they won't do it.
I'm waiting to be proved wrong by them.
They'll probably claim to be players in Matt Holiday and Jason Bay, but they won't do it.
I'm waiting to be proved wrong by them.
- 25,250
- 13,313
- Joined
- May 30, 2006
That's the best you've got?
Los Angeles? I won't argue that... Seattle? Meh... Chicago? After all the stuff that's gone on with Fukudome? You think he's gonna be advising kidsto come into that organization?
Like I said, Texas is competitive with the elite in terms of pumping cash into their farm system...
- 11,980
- 18
- Joined
- Feb 21, 2005
Crawford or Upton won't be with the Rays next year
- 15,762
- 517
- Joined
- Sep 5, 2005
I might join you guys here tonight, I don't want to though.
- 2,755
- 10
- Joined
- Mar 18, 2009
The Giants need to trade Aaron Rowand this off-season. It just hasn't been working for him here in SF.
I'd like to see him be traded for Milton Bradley or possibly Eric Byrnes.
I'd like to see him be traded for Milton Bradley or possibly Eric Byrnes.
- 25,250
- 13,313
- Joined
- May 30, 2006
Impending Vinny Padilla Meltdown in 3... 2... 1...Originally Posted by FrenchBlue23
I might join you guys here tonight, I don't want to though.
- 21,951
- 1,398
- Joined
- Jan 12, 2003
You'd seriously want to downgrade your outfield defense by getting Bradley?
Dude belongs in the AL.
Dude belongs in the AL.
- 25,250
- 13,313
- Joined
- May 30, 2006
Yeah, I think it's pretty clear Bradley shouldn't be playing in the NL at this point...
He sucks defensively and health is and always will be a concern... A move back to the AL would be GREAT for him...
He sucks defensively and health is and always will be a concern... A move back to the AL would be GREAT for him...
- 15,762
- 517
- Joined
- Sep 5, 2005
Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
Impending Vinny Padilla Meltdown in 3... 2... 1...Originally Posted by FrenchBlue23
I might join you guys here tonight, I don't want to though.
Padilla has been solid man, but I have no confidence in the Dodgers' offense right now.
Hoping they resign him in the offseason, except not for that 10-12 million club option, which I believe he has.
- 2,755
- 10
- Joined
- Mar 18, 2009
I would risk the shaky defense of Milton Bradley if he can produce for the team. If the Giants had at least a decent offense, they would'veplayed in October. They're either last or close to last in most offensive categories and with that bad of an offense they still brought out 88 wins. So, anoffensive upgrade is needed.Originally Posted by Mez 0ne
You'd seriously want to downgrade your outfield defense by getting Bradley?
Dude belongs in the AL.
They Giants outfield defense already took a hit once the season ended, Randy Winn was errorless this season.
- 6,600
- 47
- Joined
- Oct 1, 2006
Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
That's the best you've got?
Los Angeles? I won't argue that... Seattle? Meh... Chicago? After all the stuff that's gone on with Fukudome? You think he's gonna be advising kids to come into that organization?
Like I said, Texas is competitive with the elite in terms of pumping cash into their farm system...
you serious dude? Seattle is MEH?
And ok they might be competitive with putting money in the farm system but that has NO RELEVANCE when dealing with a Japanese pitcher who will get a nicecontract from the Dodgers or M's...
- 25,250
- 13,313
- Joined
- May 30, 2006
I don't see anything special about the Mariners... Especially with all the whispers and rumors you hear about Ichiro's issues in thatlocker room and Johjima now opting to walk away $16M and leave town...
And a team that might very well make the highest offer to the kid has no relevance?
- 6,600
- 47
- Joined
- Oct 1, 2006
You've gotta understand that the money is not necessarily an issue with some of these guys. They aren't gonna leave their home countrywhere they are a star to go to texas just for some money...The offer from Texas will not be that much greater than LA or Seattle that he would feel the need toHAVE to go to Texas.Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
I don't see anything special about the Mariners... Especially with all the whispers and rumors you hear about Ichiro's issues in that locker room and Johjima now opting to walk away $16M and leave town...
And a team that might very well make the highest offer to the kid has no relevance?OK.
And the Ichiro rumors (which where are you getting that info from BTW?) may be true or false, but the fact remains that Minoru Arakawa is still in Seattle...
- 16,335
- 13
- Joined
- Dec 27, 2002
A quick look at the known finalists for the Indians' managerial job:
MANNY ACTA
Age: 40
Experience: Former Nationals manager
Hire him: His open-mindedness toward sabermetrics might mesh well with the Indians' front office, his Dominican roots allow for an easy rapport with Latin players and he could be primed to succeed after learning from his experiences with the Nats.
Stay away: Yes, the Nats were an awful ballclub, so it's best not to put too much stock into Acta's managerial record, but the team was 26-61 with Acta this season and 33-42 after he was dismissed, so they showed improvement without him.
TOREY LOVULLO
Age: 44
Experience: Triple-A Columbus manager
Hire him: As the Indians retool with their young talent, who better to take over that young talent than the guy who helped mold those players at the Triple-A level? Lovullo is smart, confident and a good communicator.
Stay away: Hiring Lovullo, who has no Major League coaching experience, would reek of the "same old, same old" atmosphere the Indians are trying to avoid. Fans might view him as a Wedge clone.
DON MATTINGLY
Age: 48
Experience: Current Dodgers hitting coach and former Yankees first baseman
Hire him: His credentials as a player would earn him instant respect with his players. He's studied under Joe Torre and is even said to be in line to be Torre's successor, if he doesn't leave first. "Donnie Baseball" has been very successful as a hitting coach.
Stay away: The Yankees didn't name him Torre's successor in 2007 for a variety of reasons, including his mild-mannered nature, what they deem to be his unpreparedness for a big-league managing job and the simple reason that they felt he was too much like Torre. If Wedge didn't appeal to fans, would the soft-spoken Mattingly have a better fate?
BOBBY VALENTINE
Age: 59
Experience: Current ESPN analyst, former Mets, Rangers and Chiba Lotte Marines (Japanese Pacific League) manager
Hire him: He is, by far, the most experienced of the remaining candidates, and his career managerial record in 15 big-league seasons is 1,117-1,072, including a World Series appearance with the Mets in 2000. He would bring a welcomed new opinion to an organization that has struggled with the evaluation of its own talent. And his personality might be a hit with fans.
Stay away: At this stage in his career, is Valentine a good fit for a team that figures to come out on the short side quite often next season and will be geared more toward player development? And considering he made about $4 million managing in Japan last year, is Valentine affordable for the cash-strapped Tribe?
Exciting...
- 25,250
- 13,313
- Joined
- May 30, 2006
So why did Kawakami sign in Atlanta? Why have other Asian players signed with Texas? Los Angeles or Seattle didn't want those guys?
Akinori Otsuka has spoken highly of his experience in Texas in the past... He's spoken with other Asian players on the Rangers' behalf in the past...The Rangers have other Asian kids in the system with nothing but positive feelings about their experiences in Texas and with the Rangers...
He may well sign with Los Angeles or Seattle, but summarily dismissing Texas because those two franchises are after them is ******ed. Period. Especially whenthe Rangers have been the big spenders they've been in the young pitching market the last few years...
- 23,277
- 5,283
- Joined
- Jan 19, 2002
Milton Bradley is a NUTCASE! You don't want him on your team. He's just drama and bull +%%*, kinda reminds me of T.O.
- 13,094
- 2,121
- Joined
- Jan 27, 2001
Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
Impending Vinny Padilla Meltdown in 3... 2... 1...Originally Posted by FrenchBlue23
I might join you guys here tonight, I don't want to though.
- 25,250
- 13,313
- Joined
- May 30, 2006
Dude's a headcase anyways, and on that stage in a hostile environment?
- 13,656
- 1,083
- Joined
- Feb 19, 2006
Originally Posted by CP1708
Done.
Where do I sign? Draw up the papers we can have this deal done by morning. I'll throw in some money, name the price, he's yours.
Thank you.
I wish it was this easy. Milton be on the first thing smokin.
I don't know if the Cubs will do that deal,
- 1,513
- 18
- Joined
- Aug 18, 2003
Orioles need a BIG bat this off-season and a #1 pitcher..
Not too many names on that list that would be a potential DH/1st base.. maybe Holiday.
Not too many names on that list that would be a potential DH/1st base.. maybe Holiday.
- 20,619
- 1,615
- Joined
- Sep 27, 2007
outfield is stacked this year...could see alot of new face in new places
