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THE OFFICIAL A I R M A X DELUXE THREAD
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Yeah I haven’t worn my deluxes yet but hopefully they feel a little less stiff than silver bullet 97s. The cushioning on 97s (mine at least) is non existent. I realized quickly the shoe is about looks and nostalgia, no longer comfort or performance sadly.
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Overall, I'm satisfied with this retro. Nike did a pretty good job. One thing I didn't mention previously, that I'm surprised they got right, is the way the swirl pattern on the tongue lines up perfectly with pattern the body of the shoe.how would you rate the retros compared to the OG
and whats your opinion about the sizing from the retros ??
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I have to deduct points for the cheapened cushioning, lack of a translucent outsole and the QC issues with the reflective hash marks.
As for fit, everyone has stated that these run long and narrow and I completely agree. These are def hair longer and considerably narrower than the OG. If you compare the insole to insole shot I took, you can see just how much wider the base of the OG is. I'd say OGs are close to a half inch wider at the forefoot, possibly even more near the arch. Another aspect I didn't mention,is if you examine the toebox the retros even physically appears longer. There is a greater gap between the embossed ridges and the toe-cap. The swoosh is farther back, as is the eyelit housing.
All in all I would rate these a 7.5/10. I'm not the kind of person who expects every detail to be duplicated perfectly nearly 2 decades down the line, but there are undoubtedly some things that could have been done better. Namely, better cushioning and a translucent outsole. Had they incorporated just the sole, 8.5/10. Just the cushioning 9/10. Had these featured both of those, they'd be a 9.9/10.
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PS. I can not emphasize enough how comfortable the OGs were. They're right on par with shoes featuring the AM 2013-2017 bubbles.
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Couldn’t have broken it down better myself. 1000% agree with all of this.
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I agree with the review above.
I'll throw this in the mix.. that the cushioning/comfort is pretty close to the same as it was when the shoe originally released.
Think back to when that shoe was released and what other models/brands were as 'comfortable' as shoes are in the present day. Probably not many. Nike had a strong hold on the market with the different air max models in their line up, and the shoes that we find to be really comfortable now, weren't even invented yet, so we didn't have much to compare it to that was on that level. Think about MJ playing 44 minutes of a game wearing AJ1's. Not even an option these days.
Comfort is also one of the more subjective topics, as people's build, aesthetic, and comfort level are all over the board and hard to generalize. Example; I've always felt that AM97's were mad stiff and not the most comfortable, some people strongly disagree.
It's like that restaurant or buffet you remember going to as a kid and everything was over the top delicious, and you go back now with the same expectations after 20 years with a completely different palate and after having eaten countless higher quality meals.
My .02
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I'll throw this in the mix.. that the cushioning/comfort is pretty close to the same as it was when the shoe originally released.
Think back to when that shoe was released and what other models/brands were as 'comfortable' as shoes are in the present day. Probably not many. Nike had a strong hold on the market with the different air max models in their line up, and the shoes that we find to be really comfortable now, weren't even invented yet, so we didn't have much to compare it to that was on that level. Think about MJ playing 44 minutes of a game wearing AJ1's. Not even an option these days.
Comfort is also one of the more subjective topics, as people's build, aesthetic, and comfort level are all over the board and hard to generalize. Example; I've always felt that AM97's were mad stiff and not the most comfortable, some people strongly disagree.
It's like that restaurant or buffet you remember going to as a kid and everything was over the top delicious, and you go back now with the same expectations after 20 years with a completely different palate and after having eaten countless higher quality meals.
My .02
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I would like to agree except for the fact that the OG 97 and OG deluxes really are/were more comfortable than today’s versions. Sure it’s been 20 years but luckily my memory ain’t that bad lol. They used to use a softer foam midsole and you can clearly see in the comparison pics that they used to use a softer more “cushiony” setup underneath the insole. It’s really night and day. I definitely understand what you mean it just sadly doesn’t apply in this case.
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spot-on.
we've been treated to a lot of advances in cushioning since 1990-whatever is the case for these retros. Knowing that + NSW's penchant for stripping away certain tech elements for various reasons, it's a bit silly and misguided to expect 20 year old models to be exceedingly more comfortable than Boost, React, etc etc.
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Hope I'll succeed to get the Skepta's and the Black one, are Air Max Deluxe hard to get in US and UK ?
Don't know if in France it was because of flashy colorways or price, but I was surprised to not see them sold out quickly
Don't know if in France it was because of flashy colorways or price, but I was surprised to not see them sold out quickly
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Perhaps stripping away the technological elements contained in the OG's helps to keep the cost down?
Nike have changed their direction as far as what the AirMax stands for today. Surely someone's out there with insider knowledge as to the reasons for why they don't replicate the tuned air, the plushier insoles and the translucent bubble? (I wouldn't even put that one down to technology)
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Any time I see a model labeled as a NSW release I expect it to be stripped a bit. Nike Running, Nike Basketball, etc = you're getting the (usually new) tech.
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I may have missed it, but what's the release date on the all blacks?
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Can anyone tell me if the Midnight Navy CW of the Deluxe is a OG cw ??
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no they are not, so now you not gonna buy them because they are not an OG cw ?? lol
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Of course not. I was curious to find out which ones were. Midnight Navys are my fav ones out of the 2018 retros. Now I just need to find where i ca find then at a discounted price lol
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maybe this can help you out
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIKE-20-OF...882476?hash=item4b440764ec:g:ueUAAOSw0O9bAFht
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I need these for at least 140... these prices are too high
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found this ultra rare wmns OG cw
i have never seen them before untill now
i tried to google the code, but too bad nothing came up
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That's one thing I love about Nikes from this era. Every once in a while, you come across a colorway you've never seen.
Between store exclusives, regional exclusives, recalls, outlet parts bin specials, mens and womens releases; all in an era before wide spread internet. There are pairs l come across every now and that are far from new, but new to me.
Lots of entirely lost models as well. I've been hunting for a pair of Air Cover IIs for years and can't even find any record of their existence
. Same goes for the Air Merciless, which really surprises me because it was very popular model to see on feet circa 2000. Maybe we should start a "Lost Nikes" thread
Between store exclusives, regional exclusives, recalls, outlet parts bin specials, mens and womens releases; all in an era before wide spread internet. There are pairs l come across every now and that are far from new, but new to me.
Lots of entirely lost models as well. I've been hunting for a pair of Air Cover IIs for years and can't even find any record of their existence
. Same goes for the Air Merciless, which really surprises me because it was very popular model to see on feet circa 2000. Maybe we should start a "Lost Nikes" thread
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If I can grab this one and the triple black one, it would be perfect
If I can grab this one and the triple black one, it would be perfect
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That's one thing I love about Nikes from this era. Every once in a while, you come across a colorway you've never seen.
Between store exclusives, regional exclusives, recalls, outlet parts bin specials, mens and womens releases; all in an era before wide spread internet. There are pairs l come across every now and that are far from new, but new to me.
Lots of entirely lost models as well. I've been hunting for a pair of Air Cover IIs for years and can't even find any record of their existence
I need Air Sunders now.
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Thanks for posting this shoe and having the name. It has evaded me for years. I remember having these in either elementary or 7th grade. Still one of my favorite shoes ever.I need Air Sunders now.
Grail status for me.
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Pretty sure 99starcount has sunders often.
Keep a lookout for reflective pairs...
Keep a lookout for reflective pairs...
